The same could be said about WoW with its more casual approach, SWToR, or any of the casual aimed themeparks. Maybe they aren't your thing, but the notion that a hack'n slash is casual is sort of absurd and redundant.

I am buying it because it is a good game, simply put!

Originally posted by BartDaCat

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Originally posted by styles74

 

1. Wife

2. 20 Month Old Son.

Back when I lived in my Dad's basement and played WoW (no, I'm not joking) and had endless hours to waste, MMO's were freaking awesome.  Now that I'm all growns up with Wife and Child (and even a Mortgage!!) those endless hours of gaming are gone forever.  Quite frankly, I wouldn't go back for anything.  My playtime now is restricted to maybe an hour at night after everyone has gone to bed, or maybe a few hours early in the morning on the weekend before everyone wakes up.

The first time I was playing the open beta and say the word "Checkpoint" go across the screen, my jaw opened up and hit my keyboard.  To be able to get in and play for a few minutes, kick some butt, advance a little bit, and stop was a very welcomed capability. And then, I started experiencing a feeling that was very unfamiliar to me at first (lost after the countless raids and time suck that is an MMO), but I eventually and immediately recalled it from the recesses of the dormant youthful area of my mind.... fun.

 

 

Yea, I am in same boat. And main reason i am getting it also.

 

 

I am locking this into a QUOTE right now for posterity!  Oooooo, Lobo.... BUSTED!

Yea, but i addmited I changed my mind.

Although I am still bit on the edge because of the price tag in europe - 60 euro :(

I don't get it, there are plenty of MMOs that you can go on and play for ten or twenty minutes and accomplish something.

Sure you can't raid in that time frame, but then you can't raid in D3 either....

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

The same could be said about WoW with its more casual approach, SWToR, or any of the casual aimed themeparks. Maybe they aren't your thing, but the notion that a hack'n slash is casual is sort of absurd and redundant.

 

 

WoW is casual for an MMO. D3 is more casual friendly as a game.. i don't get whats so hard to understand. WoW you log in, you have a few choices.

WoW Dungeon ( 10-15minute queue average + 20-30 minute runtime average ) If you have a child of a young age, you're likely to have to step away from the pc at least once if not more. Rarely will a group give a damn you have a child. That is assuming you even get into the game because there is a 50% chance you have an explosive diaper at the point in which the queue pops.

WoW battleground ( 5-10minute queue average + 5-30minute runtime average ) Again if you have a child you're likely to be pulled away or blown away by a diaper. Either way there is enough time for your child to break free of their bindings and climb the ceiling that will unfortunately draw you away from your MMO and get you kicked or teabagged by a 3 foot tall lawn ornament.

WoW Raid We don't even have to go there unless you have an understanding group of people usually its a no go.

I could go on but the devotion per sitting is much higher in an MMO style game vs hack n slash.

That argument would work for pretty much all single player games no?

Most of them dont even have checkpoints but allow you to quicksave whenever you want so would that not be even better for you? 

Also isnt that only working if you play it solo? I would imagine a group would not only want to play to a certain checkpoint but finish what they started the only time in MMOs you have a hard time to stop playing is if you are doing pt content if you play solo you can stop whenever you want so i really do have a hard time to understand your point.

Leave it to Blizzard fans to make a big deal out of the most normal thing in a singleplayer game if thats the best reason to play sane gamers would just look for another game.....

I don't get what's so fascinating about D3. I played the beta and cleared it in less than an hour. It feels like D2.5 with less maximum players, the lack of a server list, non-randomized areas and the most rehashed beginning I've seen in a couple of years. I wonder whether Act II is located in the desert and Act III in the jungle. Also, since higher level characters can drag you through the content making the game boring as hell and the lack of an appropriate match filter to remove unbalanced games, Blizzard shows how much they have fallen from their former glory of game design.

Starcraft II was great and I played it for a long time, because the campaing was well done and the funmaps are fun as hell. But Blizzard has lost their creativity and suffer from the Activision philosophy to not take any risks at all.

I just think there are better and older games for you (op) to buy and jump in. I'd recommend D2.

My sons have also changed their minds and will be purchasing D3. They are both students living in different parts of the country. No sub games are important to students for obvious reasons and they have happy memories of playing the other Diablo games together. I say fair enough to them.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Originally posted by BartDaCat

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Originally posted by styles74

 

1. Wife

2. 20 Month Old Son.

Back when I lived in my Dad's basement and played WoW (no, I'm not joking) and had endless hours to waste, MMO's were freaking awesome.  Now that I'm all growns up with Wife and Child (and even a Mortgage!!) those endless hours of gaming are gone forever.  Quite frankly, I wouldn't go back for anything.  My playtime now is restricted to maybe an hour at night after everyone has gone to bed, or maybe a few hours early in the morning on the weekend before everyone wakes up.

The first time I was playing the open beta and say the word "Checkpoint" go across the screen, my jaw opened up and hit my keyboard.  To be able to get in and play for a few minutes, kick some butt, advance a little bit, and stop was a very welcomed capability. And then, I started experiencing a feeling that was very unfamiliar to me at first (lost after the countless raids and time suck that is an MMO), but I eventually and immediately recalled it from the recesses of the dormant youthful area of my mind.... fun.

 

 

Yea, I am in same boat. And main reason i am getting it also.

 

 

I am locking this into a QUOTE right now for posterity!  Oooooo, Lobo.... BUSTED!

Yea, but i addmited I changed my mind.

Although I am still bit on the edge because of the price tag in europe - 60 euro :(

 

The war is over.. if you can be won over there is nothing left to fight for -.-

Though people have said it was 27-45 euro. Amazon was supposedly 27 i though unless i've been misinformed.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

Originally posted by styles74

 

1. Wife

2. 20 Month Old Son.

Back when I lived in my Dad's basement and played WoW (no, I'm not joking) and had endless hours to waste, MMO's were freaking awesome.  Now that I'm all growns up with Wife and Child (and even a Mortgage!!) those endless hours of gaming are gone forever.  Quite frankly, I wouldn't go back for anything.  My playtime now is restricted to maybe an hour at night after everyone has gone to bed, or maybe a few hours early in the morning on the weekend before everyone wakes up.

The first time I was playing the open beta and say the word "Checkpoint" go across the screen, my jaw opened up and hit my keyboard.  To be able to get in and play for a few minutes, kick some butt, advance a little bit, and stop was a very welcomed capability. And then, I started experiencing a feeling that was very unfamiliar to me at first (lost after the countless raids and time suck that is an MMO), but I eventually and immediately recalled it from the recesses of the dormant youthful area of my mind.... fun.

 

 

Yea, I am in same boat. And main reason i am getting it also.

 

 

Count me in too (along with my gf :-)). We are also in that exact same boat!

Still love playing MMO's, but I just don't make much progress in them anymore, since my son is taking most of my time these days. :-)

That's also why I actually enjoyed WoW again with the Dungeon Finder. Lot of people hate it, but for people like us it's a blessing.

You can just jump in, queue up, and do a short dungeon run and with luck get out with a nice piece of loot and make some progress along the way.

Perfect for family people! :-)

Yep, its cheaper on Amazon. But I want digital copy + Amazon is not acepting PayPal

Originally posted by Doomedfox

That argument would work for pretty much all single player games no?

Most of them dont even have checkpoints but allow you to quicksave whenever you want so would that not be even better for you? 

Also isnt that only working if you play it solo? I would imagine a group would not only want to play to a certain checkpoint but finish what they started the only time in MMOs you have a hard time to stop playing is if you are doing pt content if you play solo you can stop whenever you want so i really do have a hard time to understand your point.

Leave it to Blizzard fans to make a big deal out of the most normal thing in a singleplayer game if thats the best reason to play sane gamers would just look for another game.....

Solo mode obviously, and I have a ton of RL friends who are playing and would certainly understand if i had to bail, and even in a PUG I have a much better chance of being able to log-in, play for 15-30 minutes, get at least SOMETHING done, and get out.  And after I "got out" in a PUG, there would be someone who would quickly replace me.

With all the other MMO's I've played there was so much time spent travelling, trying to organize a group / raid, general prep time, etc. etc. that I simply don't have available anymore to spend.

With D3 it seems with even 30 minutes I could quickly grab a few blues, blow off some steam, maybe beat a boss, and actually have some fun. 

Originally posted by styles74

Originally posted by Doomedfox

That argument would work for pretty much all single player games no?

Most of them dont even have checkpoints but allow you to quicksave whenever you want so would that not be even better for you? 

Also isnt that only working if you play it solo? I would imagine a group would not only want to play to a certain checkpoint but finish what they started the only time in MMOs you have a hard time to stop playing is if you are doing pt content if you play solo you can stop whenever you want so i really do have a hard time to understand your point.

Leave it to Blizzard fans to make a big deal out of the most normal thing in a singleplayer game if thats the best reason to play sane gamers would just look for another game.....

 

Solo mode obviously, and I have a ton of RL friends who are playing and would certainly understand if i had to bail, and even in a PUG I have a much better chance of being able to log-in, play for 15-30 minutes, get at least SOMETHING done, and get out.  And after I "got out" in a PUG, there would be someone who would quickly replace me.

With all the other MMO's I've played there was so much time spent travelling, trying to organize a group / raid, general prep time, etc. etc. that I simply don't have available anymore to spend.

With D3 it seems with even 30 minutes I could quickly grab a few blues, blow off some steam, maybe beat a boss, and actually have some fun. 

But here is the catch its not an MMO.....

Originally posted by Doomedfox

That argument would work for pretty much all single player games no?

Most of them dont even have checkpoints but allow you to quicksave whenever you want so would that not be even better for you? 

Also isnt that only working if you play it solo? I would imagine a group would not only want to play to a certain checkpoint but finish what they started the only time in MMOs you have a hard time to stop playing is if you are doing pt content if you play solo you can stop whenever you want so i really do have a hard time to understand your point.

Leave it to Blizzard fans to make a big deal out of the most normal thing in a singleplayer game if thats the best reason to play sane gamers would just look for another game.....

I said it was my number one and two reasons.  I didn't include all the other reasons that the game appeals to me, and I just haven't come across a single player game that held my attention and or enjoyed.  I've tried playing a bunch of RPG's on the console since WoW, and tried Torchlight.  Before WoW I played SWG, EQ & EQ2, DAoC, AO, etc. etc. the list goes on all the way back to UO. 

I don't just want a single player game though, and with D3 if I bailed I would be quickly and efficiently replaced.

If you have some other games that you recommend for me to check out considering my circumstances though, I'm all ears.  Also labeling me a "Blizzard fan" isn't entirely accurate.  I played D2, WoW, and looking forward to D3.  After playing D3 though, I'm definitely considering buying some Activision stock... they definitely have a winner on their hands.  If I knew a little more about Titan, it would be a no brainer.  So if I drop 10 or 20k in Activistion stock, then you can label me a Blizzard fan.

Originally posted by bobfish

I don't get it, there are plenty of MMOs that you can go on and play for ten or twenty minutes and accomplish something.

 

Sure you can't raid in that time frame, but then you can't raid in D3 either....

I am not sure D3 can be compared to games that have raids.  Sure there are casual MMOs out there, but as a casual gamer you can't really get into raids, which would be considered end game content.  In D3 the end game content is inferno, and that certainly is attainable by somebody playing casually or solo (although if played casually it may take a while to farm the gear for inferno).

Originally posted by Doomedfox

But here is the catch its not an MMO.....

It's not a catch to me...I'm aware of what it is and what it isn't, and I'm perfectly happy with the result.  While I'm used to MMO's, that genre is most likely done forever for me.  With the aforementioned reasoning, it's just not something that will be accessible to me.  D3 is the first game that's actually held my attention and inspired me to pre-order something (based on the OB) and make me interested in a game since I put down WoW.

Raids, schmaids.

While it isn't a MMO in the truest sense, I'm glad mmorpg.com decided to add it to the gamelist. 

Originally posted by styles74

Originally posted by Doomedfox

That argument would work for pretty much all single player games no?

Most of them dont even have checkpoints but allow you to quicksave whenever you want so would that not be even better for you? 

Also isnt that only working if you play it solo? I would imagine a group would not only want to play to a certain checkpoint but finish what they started the only time in MMOs you have a hard time to stop playing is if you are doing pt content if you play solo you can stop whenever you want so i really do have a hard time to understand your point.

Leave it to Blizzard fans to make a big deal out of the most normal thing in a singleplayer game if thats the best reason to play sane gamers would just look for another game.....

I said it was my number one and two reasons.  I didn't include all the other reasons that the game appeals to me, and I just haven't come across a single player game that held my attention and or enjoyed.  I've tried playing a bunch of RPG's on the console since WoW, and tried Torchlight.  Before WoW I played SWG, EQ & EQ2, DAoC, AO, etc. etc. the list goes on all the way back to UO. 

I don't just want a single player game though, and with D3 if I bailed I would be quickly and efficiently replaced.

If you have some other games that you recommend for me to check out considering my circumstances though, I'm all ears.  Also labeling me a "Blizzard fan" isn't entirely accurate.  I played D2, WoW, and looking forward to D3.  After playing D3 though, I'm definitely considering buying some Activision stock... they definitely have a winner on their hands.  If I knew a little more about Titan, it would be a no brainer.  So if I drop 10 or 20k in Activistion stock, then you can label me a Blizzard fan.

I admit my wording was not well chosen and therefore its understandable that you would think i did mean you when referring to Blizzard fans (and i do apologize for that) but it was aimed toward some of the replies you got praising blizzard for this function (checkpoints)

I also do not try to make the game sound bad or anything the RMA does that all by itself.

Everyone should play whatever they enjoy most i just find it silly to use something so normal like checkpoints ( which actually is pretty old and outdated) D3 is not an MMO so don't compare it to one its like saying the main reason for me to play Fifa is because of the ball all the other MMOs i played didn't have a ball i could kick so thats why Fifa is so awesome....it has nothing to do with each other and therefore shouldn't be compared. 

As for me recommending games well thats tough since i do not really know what kind of game you want to play if its something you can play solo or in coop/multiplayer that also offers itemfarming i would say give Borderlands a try it pleasantly surprised me when i played it.

i will get the D3 for 10€ because a friend work for blizz  and can get some at that price the only reason why i will get d3(kinda sad that blizz dint manage to hook me )

Originally posted by Doomedfox

I admit my wording was not well chosen and therefore its understandable that you would think i did mean you when referring to Blizzard fans (and i do apologize for that) but it was aimed toward some of the replies you got praising blizzard for this function (checkpoints)

I also do not try to make the game sound bad or anything the RMA does that all by itself.

Everyone should play whatever they enjoy most i just find it silly to use something so normal like checkpoints ( which actually is pretty old and outdated) D3 is not an MMO so don't compare it to one its like saying the main reason for me to play Fifa is because of the ball all the other MMOs i played didn't have a ball i could kick so thats why Fifa is so awesome....it has nothing to do with each other and therefore shouldn't be compared. 

 

As for me recommending games well thats tough since i do not really know what kind of game you want to play if its something you can play solo or in coop/multiplayer that also offers itemfarming i would say give Borderlands a try it pleasantly surprised me when i played it.

Apology accepted!  And I should really clarify the checkpoint comment... After so much experience with MMO's, it was just a totally welcomed capability to have a game that I'm interested in actually having that feature.  You're totally right in saying that it's nothing new or groundbreaking, it was more like a fist pump for me knowing that virtually everytime I play I'm going to have to end my session abruptly... If my kid wakes up, or has a major meltdown and Mom needs my help, or Mom and child get home, etc. etc.

i am in the exact same situation, fiancee-2 year old daughter.

but instead of diablo im choosing WvW pvp in gw2 because of how accesssible it is.

(ill probably do a single player run through of diablo myself this summer though)

i dont see anymore hardcore raids in our ever so slowly but surely aging lives.