It is actually an open world action rpg. No instances and no hand holding. It's dark, gritty and best of all it isn't cartoony.

Enjoy - http://www.grimdawn.com/ 

The whole backing thing they got going on for perks is kinda... meh. Kinda worries me when i see stuff like that but if it works awesome. Seems like a leap of faith to support this game.

I feel cheated and ripped off from Blizzard after I saw this in the works. It seems these guys at Crate accomplshed more in 2+ years than the entire Blizzard D3 team has in  6+ yeats of D3 development. It might be a leap of faith I agree but these guys are Crate know how to make a good rpg. They are former members of Iron Lore. Titan Quest was pretty good and sold well. :)

 "...have already invested years of time into it to get it to where it is today but there is a lot of content left to build and with only two full-time people..."

Then it goes on to say how they hope to have it finished in their lifetimes...loI

think imma stick with D3. Sounds interesting though!

Also, definitely check out Path of Exile: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts6EFX1wA0E

Originally posted by spikers14

 "...have already invested years of time into it to get it to where it is today but there is a lot of content left to build and with only two full-time people..."

Then it goes on to say how they hope to have it finished in their lifetimes...loI

think imma stick with D3. Sounds interesting though!

  Wow is that what you really got out of the article? They say they've been working on the game for 2 years now and hope to have it done before another 2 years happens and believe they they can if they make thier kickstarter funding.

  Diablo maybe a great game but its been 10 years and 9 months since D2 Sooo a major corp like Blizzard has been working on D3 for how long and you mock a indie dev for not having a game out thats even better in 2-3 years time? Stick with the Big time developer that spends aolmost more money on Advertising and PR then actual game developement. Doesn't mean you'll get a better game. Me i'd rather take my chances and support the indie. Beside no reason both can't be great games. (more choice is always a good thing) 

  Personally D3 doesn't look that deep or complex I'm guessing in another 18 months I'll be wanting a game like Grim Dawn to fill its place and thats the time frame the Crate developers seem to be aiming for a release

Who needs Diablo3, Lineage Eternal looks twice as good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

Originally posted by Aori

The whole backing thing they got going on for perks is kinda... meh. Kinda worries me when i see stuff like that but if it works awesome. Seems like a leap of faith to support this game.

 Well they aren't newbies they did help produce Titan Quest at Iron Lore. they also aren't trying to make a dumbed down cross plateform game for Xbox/ Ps3 /Pc they are just working on a strong PC game so that also makes things easier. If you read they have been doing the last 2 years of developement pretty much at their own expense and are almost to Alpha with a playable demo. (So they seem confident enough in themselves to devote their own time and money)

  Is backing them for $18 really that big of a risk? Your other choice really is just to sit here moaning on the forums about how the big publishers/devs don't put out very good games anymore while doing nothing to promote change. No offense ment to anyone in this thread for some $18 is bit more then for others, but sometimes if you want something better and want something different then you do have to take at least a small risk.

   So far IMO the Grim Dawn game play videos look better then any of the diablo3 videos I've seen or what I've personally played in beta. Also I enjoyed Titan quest at least as much as D2 so I have at least as much faith in Crate to deliver a good game as I do in the Big (money) seeking Developers/publishers. YMMV

Originally posted by gladosrev2

Who needs Diablo3, Lineage Eternal looks twice as good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

lol

I think your getting you game genre's mixed up

Originally posted by sadeyx

Originally posted by gladosrev2

Who needs Diablo3, Lineage Eternal looks twice as good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

lol

 

I think your getting you game genre's mixed up

How so..? Have you even seen Lineage Eternal?

LE looks incredible though. Every time they go in to showing how the controls will work, I keep thinking, "damn that would be awesome on the PSVita", minus the part where you're stuck at home on a portable device just to play it online. Time for a 5g+ Vita.

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by sadeyx

Originally posted by gladosrev2

Who needs Diablo3, Lineage Eternal looks twice as good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

lol

 

I think your getting you game genre's mixed up

 How so..? Have you even seen Lineage Eternal?

Stop confusing yourself.

These are two entirly different games, doesnt matter what they 'look like'  LOL

Originally posted by sadeyx

Originally posted by IrishChai

Originally posted by sadeyx

Originally posted by gladosrev2

Who needs Diablo3, Lineage Eternal looks twice as good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

lol

 

I think your getting you game genre's mixed up

 How so..? Have you even seen Lineage Eternal?

Stop confusing yourself.

These are two entirly different games, doesnt matter what they 'look like'  LOL

 

<snip> convo sorta moved to another thread. 

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by spikers14

 "...have already invested years of time into it to get it to where it is today but there is a lot of content left to build and with only two full-time people..."

Then it goes on to say how they hope to have it finished in their lifetimes...loI

think imma stick with D3. Sounds interesting though!

 

  Wow is that what you really got out of the article? They say they've been working on the game for 2 years now and hope to have it done before another 2 years happens and believe they they can if they make thier kickstarter funding.

  Diablo maybe a great game but its been 10 years and 9 months since D2 Sooo a major corp like Blizzard has been working on D3 for how long and you mock a indie dev for not having a game out thats even better in 2-3 years time? Stick with the Big time developer that spends aolmost more money on Advertising and PR then actual game developement. Doesn't mean you'll get a better game. Me i'd rather take my chances and support the indie. Beside no reason both can't be great games. (more choice is always a good thing) 

  Personally D3 doesn't look that deep or complex I'm guessing in another 18 months I'll be wanting a game like Grim Dawn to fill its place and thats the time frame the Crate developers seem to be aiming for a release

That its a tiny company, during a time when companies are folding like mad, that has no firm release date and posted on its website of unknown dates and hopes? Yes. Thats exactly what I got out of it. I would not be surprised if EA doesnt buy this up for $50,000 just to bury it.

Diablo 3 what ???

Thats the shit right there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdbdsFgNGI

Originally posted by Mephster

It is actually an open world action rpg. No instances and no hand holding. It's dark, gritty and best of all it isn't cartoony.

 

Enjoy - http://www.grimdawn.com/ 

None of those matters. The key is whether the game is fun.

And D3 is *fun*.

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by Aori

The whole backing thing they got going on for perks is kinda... meh. Kinda worries me when i see stuff like that but if it works awesome. Seems like a leap of faith to support this game.

 Well they aren't newbies they did help produce Titan Quest at Iron Lore. they also aren't trying to make a dumbed down cross plateform game for Xbox/ Ps3 /Pc they are just working on a strong PC game so that also makes things easier. If you read they have been doing the last 2 years of developement pretty much at their own expense and are almost to Alpha with a playable demo. (So they seem confident enough in themselves to devote their own time and money)

  Is backing them for $18 really that big of a risk? Your other choice really is just to sit here moaning on the forums about how the big publishers/devs don't put out very good games anymore while doing nothing to promote change. No offense ment to anyone in this thread for some $18 is bit more then for others, but sometimes if you want something better and want something different then you do have to take at least a small risk.

   So far IMO the Grim Dawn game play videos look better then any of the diablo3 videos I've seen or what I've personally played in beta. Also I enjoyed Titan quest at least as much as D2 so I have at least as much faith in Crate to deliver a good game as I do in the Big (money) seeking Developers/publishers. YMMV

I backed them with $50 mainly because I liked the guys sales pitch and I guarenteed Alpha and beta access

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by Aori

The whole backing thing they got going on for perks is kinda... meh. Kinda worries me when i see stuff like that but if it works awesome. Seems like a leap of faith to support this game.

 Well they aren't newbies they did help produce Titan Quest at Iron Lore. they also aren't trying to make a dumbed down cross plateform game for Xbox/ Ps3 /Pc they are just working on a strong PC game so that also makes things easier. If you read they have been doing the last 2 years of developement pretty much at their own expense and are almost to Alpha with a playable demo. (So they seem confident enough in themselves to devote their own time and money)

  Is backing them for $18 really that big of a risk? Your other choice really is just to sit here moaning on the forums about how the big publishers/devs don't put out very good games anymore while doing nothing to promote change. No offense ment to anyone in this thread for some $18 is bit more then for others, but sometimes if you want something better and want something different then you do have to take at least a small risk.

   So far IMO the Grim Dawn game play videos look better then any of the diablo3 videos I've seen or what I've personally played in beta. Also I enjoyed Titan quest at least as much as D2 so I have at least as much faith in Crate to deliver a good game as I do in the Big (money) seeking Developers/publishers. YMMV

I'm not really moaning about anything so i'm not sure who you're refering to. I like diablo 3 and i like what blizzard has done with it, i didn't at first but it really is a better game than its elders. 

I have nothing against these people trying to make a good game and i hope they succeed.. but it honestly sounds more like a fairy tale. Me and many others just aren't in the position to donate anything money to something that is a gamble. I have to know what i will be getting not what i may get. 

I'm all for a better game, if they can do it great if not then my wallet and hopes didn't get burned.

To be honest, I don't see how a small understaffed indie game can "replace" Diablo 3. MInd you, I do enjoy playing indie games but I found most of them very low on the content side.

Anyways it really amuses me how so many people assume that Blizzard worked on Diablo 3 all the time between Diablo 2 and now. They probably started working on it 6-12 months before announcing it in 2009/2010.

As for replacements, Path of Exile, I hear a lot about this game but I am not impressed. I am not expecting much from Torchligh either. Torchlight 1 was a short game with OK gameplay but nothing interesting. Diablo 2 was miles ahead of Torchlight even without considering the multiplayer part and it was released in 2000.

I think Torchlight will be an OK game but nothing special. I still haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise except for all the Diablo haters who praise Torchlight like there's no tomorrow just to hate on D3.

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Mephster

It is actually an open world action rpg. No instances and no hand holding. It's dark, gritty and best of all it isn't cartoony.

 

Enjoy - http://www.grimdawn.com/ 

None of those matters. The key is whether the game is fun.

And D3 is *fun*.

It is? I must have missed that part of the beta weekend.

Originally posted by AZHokie54

Originally posted by nariusseldon

Originally posted by Mephster

It is actually an open world action rpg. No instances and no hand holding. It's dark, gritty and best of all it isn't cartoony.

 

Enjoy - http://www.grimdawn.com/ 

None of those matters. The key is whether the game is fun.

And D3 is *fun*.

It is? I must have missed that part of the beta weekend.

Because tutorials and the first 30 min are the most fun part of a game, am I right?!