I totally agree with the op...and add: Diablo 3 is a poor excuse for a game...wow effect indeed...dumbing down to the bone[mod edit] people can buy and play, and be the best there is.

 

Oh i miss the classic wow...[mod edit]

D3 Rocks.. anyone who disagrees is wrong, that is all.

Originally posted by Rednecksith

All the talent left Blizzard a long time ago, so I really can't say that I'm surprised D3 is turning out to be 'baby's first action RPG'.

Fortunately, said talent is now gainfully employed at Arenanet and Runic Games, and I can't wait to sample the fruits of their labours later this year. 

We've also got a lot of talent over at Grinding Gear Games cranking out that which is (graphically, at least) a bit more true to the Diablo franchise than anything I've seen from ActiBlizz, and is at least pushing some kind of innovation. The folks at Crate Entertainment also seem to be on the right track with their efforts as well, although it's a bit early to say for sure.

Sadly D3 will still do well, because Kotick's little sheep will buy whatever has that shiny blue logo on it.

Ya I have to agree with this guy, the talent is gone. 

The saddest part is the RL auction house that some fanbois are actually praising, pay to win is a sure recipe to sink a game.

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Originally posted by bishbosh
everyone saying d3 is great hasnt posted a single reason why it is great. just silly fanbois jumping on the next new thing.

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It feels far more visceral and physical than Diablo 2. You really feel the impact as you smash enemies, knock them back, destroy furniture and surrounds. The whole physical feel is just fantastic, better than any other action RPG I have encountered.

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Originally posted by bishbosh
d3 is clearly a step back from d2. you cannot allocate skill points or stat points. everyone is the exactly the same. how are you fanbois gonna justify that?

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Everyone is not exactly the same. The amount of skill choice is at least as great as Diablo 2 - the only difference is that you can change your choice freely instead of rolling a new character. I will concede that this may hurt replayability for softcore players - not much point levelling a new character of a class you've already levelled.

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Originally posted by bishbosh
its too easy even on normal and it doesnt have that gothic dark atmosphere. i dont know why they went with cartonny rainbow graphics? the graphics engineering-wise are terrible. really backward. 

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The first third of the first act of the first difficulty level is very easy. Nobody knows how difficult it is after that.

You're talking absolute nonsense with this "cartonny [sic] rainbow graphics" crap. It's not cartoony, it's not rainbowy, it's gothic as hell. You are constantly tramping over butchered, dismembered, impaled and generally abused corpses. It's more gruesome than Diablo 2.
 
Anyway, there are my reasons. I know none of them really stack up to the smug sense of satisfaction you can get from being so cool that you hate anything popular - that's a great feeling, I loved feeling like that when I was a kid. But Diablo 3 is shaping up to be a great game, which absolutely oozes polished gameplay.

I agree with the OP.

Unfortunately diablo 3 is nothing like diablo 1-2 and will surely disappoint a lot of real diablo fans. Newcomers to diablo will probably like it I guess. My biggest disappointment was how easy the game is, it's not difficult at all and it's got the classic WoW-effect (holds your hand while you play).

I guess when I want a challenge out of a game I'm gonna have to turn to indie developers and just forget about AAA titles.

Originally posted by gostly

I agree with the OP.

Unfortunately diablo 3 is nothing like diablo 1-2 and will surely disappoint a lot of real diablo fans. Newcomers to diablo will probably like it I guess. My biggest disappointment was how easy the game is, it's not difficult at all and it's got the classic WoW-effect (holds your hand while you play).

I guess when I want a challenge out of a game I'm gonna have to turn to indie developers and just forget about AAA titles.

I'm thinking you're right. The "AAA" titles these days just plain suck.

Originally posted by Adhesive33

Give Path of Exile a shot if you can grab a key somewhere, I'm finding it to be very addicting, and the skill system is excellent. 

I second this.

I am currently playing the Path of Exile beta and I am very happy with it.  I bought my way into the beta by paying 10 bucks, which gets you a beta key and 10 dollars worth of item shop credit. (The game is F2P with cosmetic/convenience cash shop).  All of the people in Path of Exile who have also played Diablo3 say that POE is far superior and is the true Diablo 2 successor.

Pretty sad that another company can make Diablo 3 better then Blizzard can....

Oh yeah... Such a terrible game.  No.... Its a great game!  Just because you have never played a single Diablo game and judge it off beta play on one of the later versions of the game doesn't mean you can judge it very much lol. I've played Diablo my whole childhood, And what I can see from D2, this is a huge step up. Of course the story isn't going to change, Monsters will be the same, and gameplay will be similar... but thats exactly the point to a series. It's all about the experience. So "Pretty Much the Worst of What Everyone Was Expecting " is so not true. I can't wait May 15th to get a group of friends to group up with me to play some D3. ( And hopefully, D3 will be better ONLINE. Thats probably the only flaw to the Diablo series.)

 

So, Sorry to all the WoW players for something a little different.

Path of Exile is very good actually. Should give it a go.

As for D3 I have several friends and family that are buying it. If nothing else its worth the price just to get some co op with them. I have played the D3 beta and do not agree with many of your points. If you dont like it dont buy it. Play Path of Exile and TL2. I think they may be a bit more of what you want. =)

Oh and take a look at Grim Dawn.

Originally posted by gostly

I agree with the OP.

Unfortunately diablo 3 is nothing like diablo 1-2 and will surely disappoint a lot of real diablo fans. Newcomers to diablo will probably like it I guess. My biggest disappointment was how easy the game is, it's not difficult at all and it's got the classic WoW-effect (holds your hand while you play).

I guess when I want a challenge out of a game I'm gonna have to turn to indie developers and just forget about AAA titles.

It's interesting how Blizzard was the indie developer back  when they made good games. Yeah, they were big when they made Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2. But they still had the indie mentality. That time period is obviously in the past.

 

Thank you, OP.  Between you and the other beta reviews I've seen and read, I am convinced to NOT buy this game.  Pity too, as I had a Gamestop gift card I was planning on spending.  Best to save it for something else me thinks.  Again....thank you.

Originally posted by just1opinion

 

Thank you, OP.  Between you and the other beta reviews I've seen and read, I am convinced to NOT buy this game.  Pity too, as I had a Gamestop gift card I was planning on spending.  Best to save it for something else me thinks.  Again....thank you.

This, my friends, is why companies have Non-Disclosure Agreements.

(FYI:  I am not advocating upholding of NDA or the breaking of NDA.  I have no stance on the issue.)

Latency is not a valid argument on any beta game, and it is highly likely beta servers are in the US, so 200 ms is pretty standard from EU to US.

Anyway, can anyone comment on how the feel of the game is .. is it dark and sinister ? I fear the answer :)

Originally posted by wrekognize

Originally posted by gostly

I agree with the OP.

Unfortunately diablo 3 is nothing like diablo 1-2 and will surely disappoint a lot of real diablo fans. Newcomers to diablo will probably like it I guess. My biggest disappointment was how easy the game is, it's not difficult at all and it's got the classic WoW-effect (holds your hand while you play).

I guess when I want a challenge out of a game I'm gonna have to turn to indie developers and just forget about AAA titles.

It's interesting how Blizzard was the indie developer back  when they made good games. Yeah, they were big when they made Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2. But they still had the indie mentality. That time period is obviously in the past.

When you see Blizzard releasing without game systems like PvP, you know something has gone terribly wrong.

Blizzard: "We'll release when it's ready."

Remember that? Yep, gone.

I like the beta so far and I'm going to get the game, I think it's really good. Not everyone has to enjoy it, and not everyone ever will enjoy one game. There will always be people who dislike it or have issues with it.

Originally posted by kjempff

Latency is not a valid argument on any beta game, and it is highly likely beta servers are in the US, so 200 ms is pretty standard from EU to US.

Anyway, can anyone comment on how the feel of the game is .. is it dark and sinister ? I fear the answer :)

It's feels like a cross between WoW and Torchlight. Sinister? Hehe, no. The graphics are muddy and the feel is animated. Just think, WoWablo.

The game was designed for kiddies and consoles so...

Originally posted by dadante666

well evryone knows that since first beta and see some gameplay footage before beta release ,threat is pointless its obvious the game is  wayy diferent from d2 and not what fan expected from d3.

still it seen good for others but its not what we really expected even whit the rmt shop ;/

Hmmm, well maybe I'm different but I've played through D2 several times most recently about 7 months ago and the game is pretty much exactly like D1 and 2.

Are their differences, sure but it is most definitely a Diablo game.  I'm really not sure what these "fans" expected.  The game was a hack and slash, it is still very much a hack and slash.  Plays very smooth and loot flys at you from everywhere...just like one and two...it is dark, dungeons are laid out nicely and for anyone talking about the difficulty last time I check the only thing you get to play is ACT1 up to the Skeleton King and ONLY on NORMAL mode...if any of you have ever played D1 or D2 on normal you would know that it was also VERY easy.

Not really sure what most people are talking about with this comment but that is just my opinion.  In fact my only complaint about the game, really, is that its toooo much like D2 and they should have done more to separate it rather than reskinning D2.

For what its worth I have loved what I have been able to play. 

 

To the OP, in the words of Zach Ryder, "Are you serious, bro?"

 

I just finished my first play-through on the D3 beta and I had an absolute blast and from what I've played so far, I would highly recommend the game to all my friends. We'll see what the final product is like but from this D2 veteran. I liked the game a whole lot.

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by kjempff

Latency is not a valid argument on any beta game, and it is highly likely beta servers are in the US, so 200 ms is pretty standard from EU to US.

Anyway, can anyone comment on how the feel of the game is .. is it dark and sinister ? I fear the answer :)

It's feels like a cross between WoW and Torchlight. Sinister? Hehe, no. The graphics are muddy and the feel is animated. Just think, WoWablo.

The game was designed for kiddies and consoles so...

Really? What do you mean by muddy? The graphics are great and its well optimized for the quality. The feel is animated because its a video game... what are you wanting something like 'gamer'?

Game plays great on the pc and well i guess i'm just a 'kiddy'

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by Zekiah

Originally posted by kjempff

Latency is not a valid argument on any beta game, and it is highly likely beta servers are in the US, so 200 ms is pretty standard from EU to US.

Anyway, can anyone comment on how the feel of the game is .. is it dark and sinister ? I fear the answer :)

It's feels like a cross between WoW and Torchlight. Sinister? Hehe, no. The graphics are muddy and the feel is animated. Just think, WoWablo.

The game was designed for kiddies and consoles so...

Really? What do you mean by muddy? The graphics are great and its well optimized for the quality. The feel is animated because its a video game... what are you wanting something like 'gamer'?

Game plays great on the pc and well i guess i'm just a 'kiddy'

I love the graphics, as well. There are a variety of reasons why I'm sure Blizzard went in this direction. First, it looks great. My opinion but I happen to think I'm right. It's also easier on PC system requirements. We saw this with World of Warcraft that it's less intensive on the PC and that allows more peope to play the game, even on low-mid range systems. Lastly, I think "cartoony" graphics age better than "realistic" graphics. I still think after 7 years, WoW looks pretty incredible and that's largely because they decided to take their game in this direction. Like I said, I'm already a huge fan of the game. Excited for the 15th of May.