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Neverwinter Forum » General Discussion » Proof the game isn't P2W!

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  Satyros

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/13
Posts: 39

9/08/13 7:47:08 PM#41

Good game. But.. P2Enjoy ( i.e. 10 dollars per inventory bag) and borderline P2W. Borderline due to most cash-buffs being PvE centered ( i.e. double-level companions,  that are also buffing the player AND having spells - stats).

 

Now..ask yourselves. When was the last time you saw a new mount/dye/awesome-thing that was not in the shop for cash/zen? 

Do you really want to keep investing your time in an mmo thats productively dead, except for those willing to spend a lot?

And even if you ARE willing to spend hundreds in this.. Would you? Knowing that this is a game bound to die-off in the not-so-far future, due to players getting bored of grinding 1 month to get a freaking inventory bag for "free"? Well, some of you would. 

As for the rest of us.. download it if you have nothing else you would like to play and/or you are a DnD fun, It will, easily, hold your attention long enough for the next real mmo to arrive. Do not make the mistake of investing in this though. Or any other game by this company for that matter.

  User Deleted
9/09/13 8:31:19 AM#42

I'm not sure why the P2W argument keeps coming up. It's "pay not to have to grind for 6 months to get top-tier runes". The "advantage" offered by said runes are minimal. You can do that without paying, if you truly hate your life and possess no money whatsoever.

 

However, that's not the issue with NW. It's a shallow game where crafting is virtually useless, there are no alternative activities worth doing once you've gotten T2/GG gear or top-tier PvP gear. You would never visit the lower level areas once past that level bracket, leaving you with about 2 zones to explore.

 

The one thing they had going (Foundry) is all but obsolete for top-level players and is itself useless compared to developer content for leveling (you level 5x as quickly doing dev content), so that's ruined as well.

 

It's frustrating because they had awesome ideas and then reduced it to the bare minimum. And, ultimately, that's the game you get - the bare minimum. I'm reasonably sure that the posters in support of this game will not be playing it in six months - because there's nothing to do for two months.

 

But back on topic, it's not P2W. People complaining about it is just "I can't haz shinies NOW! It's P2W!" - It's pay-not-to-kill-yourself-because-you-spent-five-months-farming-AD.

  Rohn

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/02/08
Posts: 3754

9/09/13 8:37:39 AM#43
Originally posted by grimjakk
The only advantage is time and convenience.  Besides... "win"  an MMORPG?  Feh. 

 

Agree with this statement.  The P2W comments are greatly and intentionally exaggerated, as usual.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  quseio

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/18/07
Posts: 222

9/09/13 8:43:37 AM#44

this game is definately pay to win to use higher lvl runes you practicly have to  pay, and i call 50 % timeredux per item for tradeskills pay to win, and dont forget the pay to win companion and mounts

 

you could of just been lucky or fought against some afkers or bots its easy to rack up kills sometimes you failed at convinceing me

  VassagoMael

Hard Core Member

Joined: 3/09/12
Posts: 525

9/09/13 8:47:16 AM#45
Did you take a picture of your monitor instead of a screenshot? 

Free to play = content updates for the cash shop. Buy to play = content updates for the cash shop.
Subscription = Actual content updates!

  Satyros

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/13
Posts: 39

9/09/13 2:24:49 PM#46

Hahah why don't you.. well.. follow your own advice for starters?

And as for calling everyone that does not share your opinion "haters and trolls" and telling them to shut up.. Remove that swastika from your arm, get off your high horse and open your eyes. This is a good, creative game, being destroyed by a financial plan and greed. 

The usual f2p plague.

  Rohn

Advanced Member

Joined: 7/02/08
Posts: 3754

9/09/13 4:53:44 PM#47
Originally posted by Satyros

Hahah why don't you.. well.. follow your own advice for starters?

And as for calling everyone that does not share your opinion "haters and trolls" and telling them to shut up.. Remove that swastika from your arm, get off your high horse and open your eyes. This is a good, creative game, being destroyed by a financial plan and greed. 

The usual f2p plague.

 

And pretty much everything you'd want can be gained by exchanging Astral Diamonds for Zen.  For free, just by playing.

Again, the tirades against the cash shop are really over-blown, and intentionally overlook some key points, like being able to earn AD by playing.

Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.

  Satyros

Apprentice Member

Joined: 8/13/13
Posts: 39

9/09/13 6:24:22 PM#48

Okay. Examples then.

What exactly is over-blown about bags costing 10 bucks each?

Oh yeah, I can still farm one week for ONE INVENTORY BAG so I can actually store some of the 50 different enchantment types- levels, the quest items and (maybe) extra loot without receiving an inventory full spam halfway into questing. True. The game lets me.

 

Is super-omfg-duper grinding fun? No. Is the benefit you receive worth the trouble (like hardcore raiding gear)?. Not by a long shot. So why put it in the game? The simple answer.. game's half-complete ( wth is the deal with the trap-rogue system anyway? I play a rogue and walk right past em.. too bored to spend 5 seconds disarming to avoid 10% lfiebar dmg. And lets not speak of the amazing quests and deep NPC personality).

It's half complete and  PWE wants a quick money grab out of this instead of trusting the game and investing in it. Again. 

Feel like sacrifising more of your time for this..? While knowing that by the time you farm up your bags, mount and  companion this game will probably be dead? Or the aliens will invade? Or we will all move to Mars and have no internet providers?

 

Well at the end of the day its your choice.  But lets all be clear about this and let the new people know the situation so they can decide for themselves too. Good game, pretty innovative, Pay-to-Enjoy or Grind-to-Compete. Deserves a week of your time or two. No more.

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