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Neverwinter Forum » General Discussion » Am I the Only One Who Thinks This?

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  Vorthanion

Elite Member

Joined: 7/02/11
Posts: 1893

2/01/13 9:17:29 AM#41
Originally posted by Razeekster
That $200 dollars for a free to play game's foundary pack is a bit expensive? I could understand if that included a lifetime subscription, but this is going to be free to play. I think $100 would be more of a reasonable price, but maybe I'm just crazy or something and this is normal.

What's even worse is that Cryptic values that virtual crap at $549.00.  Unfrakking believable.  I don't consider the package worth the 199 bucks, let alone the fact that Cryptic has priced the whole thing to normally sell for $549.00.  I'd say that is quite the indicator of how they are going to run the cash shop, expensive and bloated.

  Ambros123

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Joined: 12/04/11
Posts: 891

2/01/13 9:32:19 AM#42
Originally posted by Arcona
Originally posted by Razeekster
That $200 dollars for a free to play game's foundary pack is a bit expensive? I could understand if that included a lifetime subscription, but this is going to be free to play. I think $100 would be more of a reasonable price, but maybe I'm just crazy or something and this is normal.

It is expensive, unless the Astral Diamonds are worth $400. It seems like a kickstarter.

Try like $43, thats was the last evaluation of the worth was in a comparison to STO and CO comparisons.

  Torvaldr

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Joined: 6/10/09
Posts: 5575

2/01/13 12:09:32 PM#43
Originally posted by Ambros123
Originally posted by Arcona

The expensive stuff in the $200  pack is probably

•   Exclusive access to ‘Menzoberranzan Renegade" race
•    Unique ‘Armored Spider’ mount
•    Unique ‘Panther Companion’

Maybe these are worth $100 each. But it's nothing gamebreaking, it's just visual flair. The $60 pack has a mount and companion too, and probably just as good.

So in other words you like being ripped off then?  Well good for you, others here are financially responsible and won't be.

I think judging what other people spend on their gaming is pretty hypocritical, not just you but everyone else in these threads that posture.  I really don't understand where people get off criticizing others in this area.  Why do you, or anyone else in this thread, feel like you have the right to pass these judgements?  How do you feel that your money spent on DDO, which you even called a shit game in another thread, is somehow justifiable yet people who might consider these packs can be labled as financially irresponsible?

The offerings are optional.  Why does this warrant a gross melodramatic reaction?

These packs seem high priced to me as well.  I need to do some math and calculate what they offer and if I think that's a good deal.  It's hard to price the Astral Diamonds because like Dilithium the price on the market fluctuates.  They will likely be much more valuable early on where they can be used as a decent boost and less valuable as time progresses and everyone is generating them.

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  Purutzil

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Joined: 10/02/11
Posts: 2825

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2/01/13 12:16:45 PM#44
Just as a FYI, even as a F2P they still have the same money needs as a P2P game. To me it makes as much sense to do the foundary version at the same cost other games seem to do it even as a F2P game. Its a price model that seems to have been around for a while with the "$200 foundary pack" though I have seen cases where its been higher as well.
  Iselin

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Joined: 3/04/08
Posts: 3731

2/01/13 1:34:30 PM#45

I think we need a new acronym: C2P... conned to play.

I specially liked the PC Gamer beta promotion. Their site doesn't include those "lucky people" in any of the announced beta weekends.

PS. In case you didn't know what they said in the official forums about the PC gamer beta access this was posted by their community manager "cmpinpointerror" on January 9 around the time the magazine went on sale and before they had announced their beta schedule:

"Whoa! I apologize for all the confusion regarding PC Gamer and Beta access. Here is the word:

Redeeming the unique key code will grant you one of two horse mounts at random PLUS Neverwinter Beta access. However, we will reveal more official details about our Beta plans once we are closer to it and you will find out when and how you can access the Beta.

Hopefully, this clears up any confusion you may have."

No they didn't say explicitly ALL beta weekends access, but they also didn't limit it with words like "some" nor "later"... misdirection accomplished.

  Mackeskimo

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Joined: 10/26/10
Posts: 49

Sometimes you can't wait, Sometimes you have to scream your name & just run in.

2/01/13 1:56:32 PM#46

I'd definitely pay the 200$... in small monthly payments for around 13-15$

i assume its expensive because, from what i've seen from the information available, the game is rich in lore and looks very well done and possibly in need of a bit more funding to make it what they believe it could and should be, and with that being said I see no problems with this. But lets all be honest, that 200$ pack is a rip off.

This new era of pay to play, without calling it pay to play is getting out of hand. Nothing is "Free"2play, but theirs hundreds of free2practice&purchaselaters.

  Arcona

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Joined: 3/30/04
Posts: 1166

2/01/13 2:54:49 PM#47

it is free to play, and you can get into beta for free in 5 million ways.

you can play level 1-60 with no restrictions.

They have just launched a Founder Pack giveaway on their homepage.

People just whine because they cant afford the $200 pack.

They should make a $1000 pack. Then the forum would explode with envy.

Don't lie and say it's pay to play etc unless you got proof.

Deal with it.

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

2/01/13 2:58:09 PM#48
Originally posted by Arcona

it is free to play, and you can get into beta for free in 5 million ways.

you can play level 1-60 with no restrictions.

They have just launched a Founder Pack giveaway on their homepage.

People just whine because they cant afford the $200 pack.

They should make a $1000 pack. Then the forum would explode with envy.

Don't lie and say it's pay to play etc unless you got proof.

Deal with it.

lol i agree.. on a side note anyone wanna buy me a founders pack?:P

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  cyrician

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Joined: 5/14/10
Posts: 158

2/01/13 6:36:33 PM#49
Originally posted by Arcona

it is free to play, and you can get into beta for free in 5 million ways.

you can play level 1-60 with no restrictions.

They have just launched a Founder Pack giveaway on their homepage.

People just whine because they cant afford the $200 pack.

They should make a $1000 pack. Then the forum would explode with envy.

Don't lie and say it's pay to play etc unless you got proof.

Deal with it.

Wow 5 million ways so does this mean you'll ban yourself this time?

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  drebian

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Joined: 8/08/08
Posts: 28

2/02/13 2:06:36 AM#50

Just curious here, but where are you guys getting your information? The game is in ALPHA testing and all testers agree to a NDA. Part of that NDA is that they cannot disclose information about the game. Furthermore, do you think they have the cash shop up and running already? If so, ok I can understand the estimates about how much the Astral Shards are worth. If not, why are you speculating how much the worth of the shards will be?

Personally, I'm not going to get any of the Founders Packs, but I'm not going to bash on anyone that feels the need or desire to do so.

I've said this on almost every post I've made in the last month, but people please STOP SPECULATING...

  Ezhae

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Joined: 9/03/06
Posts: 734

2/02/13 2:58:06 AM#51
Originally posted by drebian

Just curious here, but where are you guys getting your information? The game is in ALPHA testing and all testers agree to a NDA. Part of that NDA is that they cannot disclose information about the game. Furthermore, do you think they have the cash shop up and running already? If so, ok I can understand the estimates about how much the Astral Shards are worth. If not, why are you speculating how much the worth of the shards will be?

Personally, I'm not going to get any of the Founders Packs, but I'm not going to bash on anyone that feels the need or desire to do so.

I've said this on almost every post I've made in the last month, but people please STOP SPECULATING...

It's not speculationw hen the company itself says that the 200$ pack has value of 549$. It just becomes math to figure out which is the most expensive item. It's 14 items + 3 character slots + 750k astral diamonds + title.

In comparsion the 60$ pack has supposedly 149$ worth of stuff in it and that's 6 items + 1 char slot + 125k astral diamonds + title. 

That's a 400$ difference in value between the two packs. What is so expensive is the question. 

  adkenner

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Joined: 2/01/11
Posts: 18

2/02/13 11:40:13 AM#52

I may be totally wrong, but here would be my guess on the packs. 

The reason the "Actual Value" is so high on the $200 pack is that they will not be offering the Race, The Spider Mount, and the Panther in the cash shop at all....at least not for quite a long time. To me those seem like the most expensive things (or the things certain players would pay the most for). We are trying to put a cash shop value on them...but if they are not available in the cash shop, then they get a big bump due to their limited availability. 

The stuff in the $60 pack will probably be availabe in the cash shop right away. Founders will most likely be getting a discount, but there is not that huge bump in "actual value" because anyone will be able to get them at any time. 

As far as the currency...maybe I'm being silly but I think that they will want people that shell out money in advance to feel like they got a good deal and be the early users/promoters of the cash shop. I don't think its crazy to think that founders would get a significant amount of thier initial investment back in currency. The 200$ pack might even be more...sort of a bonus for shelling out that kind of cash. (~125$ for the 200$ pack....~20$ for the 60$ pack)

I don't think Im going to buy any of the packs...but if you got back anywhere from 33% to 50% or more of  of your money in currency, plus all the other items...I don't think it ends up being that bad of a deal. Again...the people they are targeting with the 200$ pack are people that want and are willing to pay for highly exclusive items. 

  khameleon

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Joined: 1/07/07
Posts: 353

2/02/13 11:44:54 AM#53

I would never pour $200 into a game I have never played sorry. 

I donate money like $25 to Path of exile to try beta sure, because it was a small group of devs that needed money.

But these guys here want $50 just to get into beta and its a big company, just greedy to me.

  CaptFabulous

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Joined: 4/24/12
Posts: 12

2/02/13 1:03:41 PM#54
It'll be a cold day in Hell before PWE gets any money out of me. I'll play the game if it's decent (and I have my doubts) but there is no way I'm giving them any money after what they did to CO and STO.
  steelheartx

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Posts: 396

2/02/13 1:17:37 PM#55
Ultimately it comes down to what it is worth to you.  Personally i'll go with the $60 level cause it's what i normally would spend on a game anyway.

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