Originally posted by MadDemon64

As much as I will love Neverwinter, Phantasy Star Online 2 will be better.

Neverwinter will not live up to the hype (but what games do nowadays), but it will likely be far closer to our wildest dreams than to our worst fears, and to all of you judging the game and believing it will be an absolute lemon *COUGH*AG-VUCK*COUGH* remember that you have not played it yet.  There is a 99.99% chance that nobody who posts on this thread will have played it, so all of your opinions are baseless, whether they be good or bad.

But I am pretty sure many people have already played Phantasy Star Online 2, and I am also pretty sure that those of you who have will agree with me that Phantasy Star Online 2 will win the best f2p ever award.

Phantasy Star Online 2 looks like total rubbish to me and has all the trappings of a normal F2P title.  Complete with lack of polish, lack of endgame activities and unrealistic art style.  But each has their own fans I suppose.  I'll never consider that game.  It offers nothing that interests me in the sligtest but if you enjoy it cool for you.

Although I've moved away from tab-targeting for the most part, Neverwinter looks like fun and I cannot wait to try it out.

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by bigsmiff
I was excited for Neverwinter until I saw the bad combat animations. I know it is still in the development phase, but if they don't fix that, I won't be playing it. I am glad you are excited for it though.

Where the hell do you see bad combat animations?

 

I do not see what you think you see.  If you want bad combat animations, look at games like Vanguard, WAR or even DF:UW for really bad animations.

I watch casters with the stutter cast animations and they are really bad...to me. The caster in the second video example looks like he is having some kind of convulsions when throwing fire...or whatever it is. It's cool if you like them, but I don't like them at all. I realize it isn't the finished product, so I will pause all further criticism until I see the finished product.

 

BTW...I don't play vanguard, nor do I play DF.

Lets just hope it will make it in Top 10 F2P MMORPGs. 

I remember seeing a video somewhere that they stated the cash shop will be mainly used by people who want to use foundry.  You will be able to buy "theme packs" and individual skins and objects for your dungeon.  The majority of players that don't want to make foundry dungeons won't pay a dime.  I forget where I saw the video.

Actually, I also read that you can get new items for the foundry through getting your creations voted up by other players. That way you get some kind of currency that you can invest in new themes and stuff for your foundry creator. Perhaps you can buy stuff just to get it faster, but as far as I've been reading around, the cash shop will be compleetly optional, much as it is in League of Legends or other F2P but not P2W games.

ya know, This type of Hype NEVER goes badly.

Originally posted by Gravarg
I remember seeing a video somewhere that they stated the cash shop will be mainly used by people who want to use foundry.  You will be able to buy "theme packs" and individual skins and objects for your dungeon.  The majority of players that don't want to make foundry dungeons won't pay a dime.  I forget where I saw the video.

Utter nonesense and total BS.... so much so that I call you to post evidence of such a claim which your pulling from your ass in what I suspect is an attempt to downgrade the game.  NUMEROUS times have they stated their intentions with the CS and NEVER have they said anything remotely to what your saying.  If you really don't know the details of the game then it's best that you remain silent.

Yes some of the community made threads speculating about the CS but almost every thread on the site is pure 100% speculation for the most part.  Hardly any details are given out and most features are not even discussed in any detail by Cryptic beyond a vague comment of "Yes X will be included at launch."

how expensive will this free to play be to enjoy ?

Originally posted by azzamasin

Originally posted by bigsmiff
I was excited for Neverwinter until I saw the bad combat animations. I know it is still in the development phase, but if they don't fix that, I won't be playing it. I am glad you are excited for it though.

Where the hell do you see bad combat animations?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylmYK...yer_detailpage

 

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=FfOg2i-lHuo

 

 

I do not see what you think you see.  If you want bad combat animations, look at games like Vanguard, WAR or even DF:UW for really bad animations.

The animations are really not all that great.  Great enviroments it seems like but the non-fluid animations will irk a lot of people.  By non-fluid I mean how after each swing there is that pause the destroyes the fluidicity of the game.  Alpha is Alpha but the are plenty of deficiencies in the engine.  Like the rigid kung-fu magi stance or the sparky effects that drives some people nuts, or the autrocious robot like movements of the dwarf walk.  There are plenty room for improvement with the games animation.

The reason cryptic has stressed not to make authors pay for foundry content is very solid.

 

They do have limit on slot but that is to avoid too much load on servers. They have lots of slots for people and they open up as you keep making good missions (or if you keep playing the game and get astral diamonds)

 

No content in foundry is ever going to get charged. Now lets come to why - the reason what dev has told us.

 

In the foundry, there are usually only 0.5% of people who attempt to make foundry missions (STO Data) and 99.5%  people just come to play. Out of those, only 0.1% of total have missions which do make to 5 star. Hence they don't have too many authors in foundry - even when there were many trekkies of STO who are really really big fans.

 

Now D&D:NW may have more authors, but how much more? Lets say twice, thrice times more? 1-2% of total people?

 

That is why cryptic is ready to throw a red carpet for the authors and are really serious about having no barrier to foundry. Realize that they are going to have reasonable limits - they have to fight spammers and stuff too. While they will have large limits as much they can allow so that foundry authors still have the red carpet.

The foundry is basically a way to generate content for free for the studio. This gives the game more playability for a longer period of time without the studio having to waste a penny on 'official' content. It makes no sense to charge for something that will help give the game more play time to it. 

I got a new blogger page for neverwinter guild members for "The Guild Of Icewind Dale" just head over to http://nwicewinddale.blogspot.com/ and check us out and if you like what you see your free to join!

Originally posted by Kabaal
Cryptic + Perfect World, somehow i doubt it will be the best anything ever.

 

Agreed.

 

I wish I had a dollar for every poster who proclaimed the next game coming out will be the greatest ever. Laughable...

dont know if the direction has changed

but previously stated goals was that NWN will be similar to Vindictus / Rusty Hearts

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2011/10/05/big-changes-to-cryptics-neverwinter

The developer says Neverwinter will be closer to a game like Nexon's Vindictus, where combat is controlled by mouse clicks, and where pattern recognition and reflexes are the keys to successfully murdering hordes of monsters. Vindictus is also session-based, with each action foray designed to last about twenty minutes (Rusty Hearts, mentioned above, also follows this pattern). It's entirely possible that Neverwinter will follow this session-based structure as well, though it's worth remembering that both Vindictus and Rusty Hearts were developed for an entirely different market

Originally posted by Allacore69

Neverwinter is going to be one of those title's you play for years. With tons of end game with the Foundry, and the "Role Play", this is going to be a great game. Sadly i'm not a lifetime member of STO or CO and did not purchase a "Founders Pack" for RaiderZ (a great title too) so i'm probably not going to be in the BETA. For those lucky one's going to be in BETA, please post everything you know! Especially about the foundry! I CAN'T WAIT!

NEVERWINTER AND FORGOTTEN REALMS FOREVER!!!!!

Do you even think? NOOMFGBESTEVERFOREVER!

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Retard-games are produced because of people like you: No brain and consuming like mindless cows. And then one day "Moooo, the gras has lost its flavor and I dunno why. Mooo!"

Think for the love of intelligent game-design, THINK!

Alot of people have been burned by Cryptic's so called AAA games before, i honestly don't hold out any hope for this game to be any different, i'll eat my arse if i am wrong.

And I thought the Guild Wars 2 smug overhype was bad.

Every day is Déjà vu on mmorpg.

Originally posted by 4bsolute

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Do you even think? NOOMFGBESTEVERFOREVER!

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Retard-games are produced because of people like you: No brain and consuming like mindless cows. And then one day "Moooo, the gras has lost its flavor and I dunno why. Mooo!"

Think for the love of intelligent game-design, THINK!

 

I think NOOMFGBESTEVERFOREVER!

However, it is not a retard game because the opinion is formed after 2+ years of following the game right when it was announced as co-op.

 

Just because someone likes the game and think it will be NOOMFGBESTEVERFOREVER! there is no reason to put down that person because of their enthusiasm.

And intellegent design has nothing to do with it. Ingenious games bomb while retarded games get famous all the time.