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WildStar Forum » General Discussion » Really wanted to play this one.

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  jeolman

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OP  9/16/12 10:17:02 PM#1
Well, I really wanted to play this one. But since NCSoft's total lack of care for thier community, by cutting the cord on City of Heroes in the manner in which they did. I wont be giving them any of my hard earned dollars. To those that do eventually play, I hope you enjoy it, and you dont get the rug pulled out from under you by NCSoft. 
  revy66

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9/16/12 10:23:24 PM#2
And what manner is that?
  ZoeMcCloskey

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9/16/12 10:26:59 PM#3

I didn't see them as doing anything wrong in this case?  CoH/CoV, very old by MMO standards, had a great run, I had fun with them.  But if they aren't making a profit anymore(I don't know if they were or not).  But likely they weren't or not enough to feel it was worth it, they are a business, so nothing wrong with them shutting down?

I just personally can't see what they did wrong here, illuminate?

  TobiasGrey

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9/16/12 10:33:25 PM#4
Originally posted by revy66
And what manner is that?

The main issue is that NCSoft didn't do it for money reasons. As far as anyone can tell, CoH is still making them a profit, but they're doing it for corporate structure reasons.

  jeolman

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OP  9/16/12 10:40:50 PM#5

the manner is they pulled the plug without warning, and all the while allowing paragon studio to continue developing and maketing future content that was generating a reveue stream both in the form of continuing subscriptions and micro transaction. 

COH was still making a profit, it was not a drain on thier botom line, like some other titles they publis are.

  ZoeMcCloskey

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9/16/12 11:55:34 PM#6

ugh ://

 

Well I can say I played City of Villains a couple times last year, had fun on it for a month or two each time. Does suck that they don't want to leave it up even on life support then if it is at least making enough profit to keep the servers going.

Not real related to this but I wish Tabula Rasa would be put up or had been left up even on life support.  I had bought the game, planned to play it just hadn't quite gotten to it yet and then boom plugs pulled, doh, lol.  Only got to play it in beta then kiss $50 bye :p

  Gothikaboy

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10/17/12 3:02:23 PM#7
I think they will be using the old CoH/V servers with a few upgrades which makes a lot of sense because it's how they can spend less to make more money.

Please do not hype any gam.. oh wait, nevermind... forgot what forum I was on.

  anonentity

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10/22/12 12:38:22 PM#8

Given NCSoft's actions with Dungeon Runners, City of Heroes or Tabula Rasa, I'll be giving a pass to Wildstar and a warning to anyone who does try it. Don't get too attached to it, NCSoft doesn't care. They may pull the plug on it and never give you a response.

 

  rhinok

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10/24/12 8:37:26 AM#9

To clarify, you'll pass on playing a new, potentially fun game because you don't like the publisher?  You're not punishing NCSoft by doing that, you're punishing yourself by denying yourself entertainment and you're punishing the studio who has been working hard on the game.  Boycotting Wildstar hurts Carbine Studios, not NCSoft...

  Zap-Robo

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10/24/12 8:41:26 AM#10
Originally posted by Gothikaboy
I think they will be using the old CoH/V servers with a few upgrades which makes a lot of sense because it's how they can spend less to make more money.

I doubt they'll be using the actual servers (unless it's a virtualised environment with enough beef) but they may well be using the space/power/pipe the servers were occupying.

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  anonentity

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10/25/12 2:19:46 PM#11

I disagree. Your argument might be correct that I am punishing myself if Wildstar was the only game in existence or one of a very limited few, but there are several other games and MMO's where I could choose to spend my free time and my money.

As to punishing Carbine, perhaps, but money spent on a Carbine product goes back to NCSoft, something which I find disagreeable so I chose not to do so. I have no animosity towards Carbine and actually am a bit sad that they are tied to NCSoft given how that company treats its development houses.

 

  ragon2727

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10/26/12 3:07:59 PM#12
Originally posted by anonentity

I disagree. Your argument might be correct that I am punishing myself if Wildstar was the only game in existence or one of a very limited few, but there are several other games and MMO's where I could choose to spend my free time and my money.

As to punishing Carbine, perhaps, but money spent on a Carbine product goes back to NCSoft, something which I find disagreeable so I chose not to do so. I have no animosity towards Carbine and actually am a bit sad that they are tied to NCSoft given how that company treats its development houses.

 

I'm in the same boat.  As someone who has played a number of games published by ncsoft (City of, Dungeon Runners, Tabula Rasa, Auto Assault, Exteel)  I'm tired of investing time in a game that the publisher will pull.  City of was the last straw in how it was handled.  I've seen worse games that are still on life support, and that's ignoring the fact that as far as I can tell City Of Heroes was still using black ink in their ledgers. I'm sad that I will not be buying and play WildStar.  Much like I would like to buy/play GW2.  I've just made the choice not to support NCsoft any longer.  Nothing against Carbine.  If they publish a game with a company other then NCsoft I will be happy to play it.  Until then I will be speaking with my wallet when NCsoft is involved.  I know my money doesn't matter to them, but my money matters to me.

  Hestia

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11/14/12 9:00:56 AM#13
Game looks eye catching, though extremely hesitant due to it being ran under NCSoft.
  Margulis

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11/15/12 12:45:30 AM#14
I understand the concern for some, but I don't think that's what would turn me away form the game.  Minus a few novel features everything I have learned about it in the last month has turned me from pretty excited to it being a complete pass.
  Lazzaro

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11/15/12 10:47:51 AM#15


Originally posted by Margulis
I understand the concern for some, but I don't think that's what would turn me away form the game.  Minus a few novel features everything I have learned about it in the last month has turned me from pretty excited to it being a complete pass.

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  Wraithone

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12/07/12 11:46:43 AM#16
Originally posted by rhinok

To clarify, you'll pass on playing a new, potentially fun game because you don't like the publisher?  You're not punishing NCSoft by doing that, you're punishing yourself by denying yourself entertainment and you're punishing the studio who has been working hard on the game.  Boycotting Wildstar hurts Carbine Studios, not NCSoft...

Nonsense. While I wish Carbine all the best, they are the ones who picked NCsoft as their publisher.  Given NCsofts past history of closing down western games, I've NO idea why Carbine picked them as their publisher.  These games tend to be long term commitments (time and effort wise), and I've had too many NCsoft games shot out from under me to really want to see it happen again.

I seriously doubt anyone at Carbine is going to address this in a forth right fashion (how can they? NCsoft has them by the short and curlies)  but its a serious concern.

  GXRranger

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12/13/12 12:56:11 PM#17
The only thing that’s starting to turn me away from this game is that its feeling like its so far away before launch that I will lose interest.
  Ice-Queen

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12/13/12 1:02:38 PM#18
If it's a good mmo, I'll play it. Let's hope it has enough sandbox features to make it worth playing for years to come.

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  DamonVile

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12/13/12 1:05:47 PM#19
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by rhinok

To clarify, you'll pass on playing a new, potentially fun game because you don't like the publisher?  You're not punishing NCSoft by doing that, you're punishing yourself by denying yourself entertainment and you're punishing the studio who has been working hard on the game.  Boycotting Wildstar hurts Carbine Studios, not NCSoft...

Nonsense. While I wish Carbine all the best, they are the ones who picked NCsoft as their publisher.  Given NCsofts past history of closing down western games, I've NO idea why Carbine picked them as their publisher.  These games tend to be long term commitments (time and effort wise), and I've had too many NCsoft games shot out from under me to really want to see it happen again.

I seriously doubt anyone at Carbine is going to address this in a forth right fashion (how can they? NCsoft has them by the short and curlies)  but its a serious concern.

I don't disagree with the boycot but you make it sound like publishers line up to take on these small companies. Stand up for what you beleive in, more ppl need to when it comes to games and the companies that make them but..... We don't really know what Carbines option where when they made their deal with NcSoft.

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  Karteli

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12/13/12 1:08:17 PM#20

The trailer for Wildstar's housing was very amusing, but the game itself seems to just be further dumbing down the IQ of MMORPG players.

 

I hate the combat, and all those red circles / cones / triangles to show EXACTLY where an upcoming attack will be.  It's unrealistic, and downright silly.  As an example from a developer walkthrough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AggcaRpjwlo

 

It's like every fight, even when fighting rats or giant slugs becomes the old mundane cliche, "don't stand in the red stuff".

 

NCSoft did generate some hate with recent decisions, but I'm looking at the game qualities in what I've said, not specifically NCSoft.  I'm likely going to take a pass on this game, unless something fantastic comes along..

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