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RaiderZ (RZ)
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MMORPG | Genre:Fantasy | Status:Final  (rel 11/20/12)  | Pub:Perfect World Entertainment
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OP  8/09/12 10:50:48 PM#1

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

  Karteli

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8/09/12 10:55:02 PM#2
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

I played SWTOR.  I suffered enough bugs,

 

I'll stay away, thanks.

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  QuicklyScott

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8/09/12 10:58:28 PM#3

Never heard of it.  I just looked up the RadierZ page here on MMORPG.com.

 

You know it's bad when the 4 advertised features include character customization and grouping up.

 

If only more MMOs had that, what astounding innovation (!)

 

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 12:00:57 AM#4
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

*sigh*

Again, really?

I mean seriously, you are turned off by a game in an incomplete closed beta form?

That is not an excuse to stop playing, but a reason to continue to play and create suggestions to make it better.

Just log back into the game, make a list of what you think needs to be changed, and post it on the appropriate section of the forums.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

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OP  8/10/12 12:06:50 AM#5
Originally posted by MadDemon64
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

*sigh*

Again, really?

I mean seriously, you are turned off by a game in an incomplete closed beta form?

That is not an excuse to stop playing, but a reason to continue to play and create suggestions to make it better.

Just log back into the game, make a list of what you think needs to be changed, and post it on the appropriate section of the forums.

No need as the only way to make the game any good would be to scrap it and start over with GW2 as a model.

 

Sorry, linear questing and gear threadmills are not for me.  To top it off I am not a fan of the Tera/Raiderz combat system.  IMO if you go the action combat style then do the hybrid tab target of a GW2 or an Asherons Call.  Not having access to my mouse cursor is to much of a shock (and yes I know you can hit shift to bring the cursor up). 

  TheHavok

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8/10/12 12:07:20 AM#6
Another shitty Korean free to play mmorpg.  Nothing new.  The little kiddies and those that haven't discovered AAA titles will like it.
  UNH0LYEV1L

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8/10/12 3:18:53 AM#7

Got into the beta...this game is extremely terrible.  The combat is way more dull and unresponsive then TERA's.  The graphics are B-League and remind me of Runes of Magic (puke sound here).  The quests are boring kill/fetch quests like every other MMO (minus TSW) and of course their is no voice overs.  The music wanted to make me ram my head through a wall and needed to be turned off immediately. I was actually kind of excited for this game.  Was hoping it would be like Vindictus minus the instanced world.

To top it off its PWI developed so you know immediately its going to be a Pay 2 Win lottery style cash shop like all their other games.


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  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 6:23:54 AM#8
Originally posted by Zylaxx
Originally posted by MadDemon64
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

*sigh*

Again, really?

I mean seriously, you are turned off by a game in an incomplete closed beta form?

That is not an excuse to stop playing, but a reason to continue to play and create suggestions to make it better.

Just log back into the game, make a list of what you think needs to be changed, and post it on the appropriate section of the forums.

No need as the only way to make the game any good would be to scrap it and start over with GW2 as a model.

 

Sorry, linear questing and gear threadmills are not for me.  To top it off I am not a fan of the Tera/Raiderz combat system.  IMO if you go the action combat style then do the hybrid tab target of a GW2 or an Asherons Call.  Not having access to my mouse cursor is to much of a shock (and yes I know you can hit shift to bring the cursor up). 

Well then, you obviously aren't playing the game correctly, because if you lock your sights onto a monster and see their health bar, if you press y, you target them.  Admittedly its not a hybrid tab target system, but I think a hybrid y target system that works the exactly the same is good enough, wouldn't you?

Also, how much of the game have you played?  I just ask because I haven't played too much myself.  The questing itself does seem linear, but its honestly no different from most other mmos these days, and gear treadmills?  Dude, they took the "gather certain items and take them to a blacksmith to create new weapons and armor" system Monster Hunter has, which is awesome and breaks prevents it from getting monotonous (especially when you need to collect different items from different monsters that require different strategies).

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  Fly666monkey

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8/10/12 6:27:40 AM#9

1. Character Creation could be a lot better, and would it kill the devs to add a skin tone other than White?

2. Weapon locking skills makes character customization extremely limited, since switching weapons in combat is pointless.

3. Extremely linear questing will turn off the Explorer crowd.

4. The Player Marketplace has the worst interface I have seen in quite some time.

5. Cannot double tap a movement key to dodge. You have no Idea how many times I have accidentally hit the Windows key while frantically trying to dodge an attack, which minimizes the game and gets me killed every time.

6. Language filter is so broken it's not even funny.

7. The number of characters I can type in before my message is cut off in chat is very limited.

8. No map icon for mailboxes or party members.

9. Feels a lot like Terra, in that the action combat seems like the only draw.

10. Combat is clunky at best, and dodging is broken.

11. It's Perfect World.

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 6:30:57 AM#10
Originally posted by TheHavok
Another shitty Korean free to play mmorpg.  Nothing new.  The little kiddies and those that haven't discovered AAA titles will like it.

Ok, what makes it shitty?

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  Boldyn

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8/10/12 6:31:25 AM#11

Look at the text below the OP's avatar....ponder.

 

Notice how he mentiones one certain game as a recipe for success, several times. Consider that game is not released yet...ponder.

 

Gasp over the fact that he even goes as far as to say that the ONLY way to make RaiderZ a success is to scrap it and remake it like a GW2...ponder.

 

Now go read a usefull thread.

  Ramanadjinn

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8/10/12 6:31:38 AM#12

i think its fun for what it is.

i been waiting on this as it looked similar to Tera and i didn't want to shell out the money for Tera.  I learned during this CBT that it isn't really a Tera replacement.  its its own F2P asian thing.

 

but for what it is.. its not a horrible game, espeically for being in closed beta.

i'm not going to play it because i dont' like questing... but if someone is looking for a F2P actiony MMO just to waste some time on and doesn't mind this playstyle this seems like a winner imo.

the combat really is kinda fun...

  Caldrin

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8/10/12 6:36:48 AM#13

Well i must admit i only played it an hour last night... sure its nothing super special but its not bad.. plus its f2p so people can make up their own minds i guess.

Grephics - Not very good really, textures are low res so use of bump mapping on terrain or anything its just flat textures.. this is really annoying me in MMORPGs now.. its 2012 have soem advanced shaders on your terrains please.. Rest of the graphics are nothing special other than the mobs, now there are some really nice looking mobs in this game I give them that :)

Gameplay - Similar to tera, combat feels a bit better but other than that its tera.

Quests - just your average go kill this go collect that stuff.

Again not really got far into this yet so will give a few more hours at least :)

Blade and Soul looks and plays better tho..

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  Onigod

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8/10/12 6:39:35 AM#14
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Sorry I know you shouldnt compare games of differing styles and cost to make but this game is pretty horrible, even worse then Tera IMO.  Logged off and uninstalled after an hours worth of playtime. 

 

I can stomach the bugs, of which there are numerous and the questing although slightly better then Tera's is still bad, especially in this age of GW2's impending release.  The game plays like the cheap F2P Asian action game that it is.

Youre just a gw2 fanboy atm and you will probaly dislike anything beside gw2.

 

The only argument you give is ''the bugs''   these bugs are the reason why the game is now in closed beta.

What is your point in with this topic? you played the game for a hour and you decided its questing system is better then Tera.

I actually think that this game does have alot of potentional.  Their concept is good and both perfectworld and maiiet are really listening to the community.

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 6:42:08 AM#15
Originally posted by UNH0LYEV1L

Got into the beta...this game is extremely terrible.  The combat is way more dull and unresponsive then TERA's.  The graphics are B-League and remind me of Runes of Magic (puke sound here).  The quests are boring kill/fetch quests like every other MMO (minus TSW) and of course their is no voice overs.  The music wanted to make me ram my head through a wall and needed to be turned off immediately. I was actually kind of excited for this game.  Was hoping it would be like Vindictus minus the instanced world.

To top it off its PWI developed so you know immediately its going to be a Pay 2 Win lottery style cash shop like all their other games.

Congraturations, you are the thousandth person to judge a game that is in closed beta and still having the bugs worked out of it, rendering your analysis null and void!

But seriously, as I said before, it isn't even released yet.  It still requires testing, but stomping, and optimization.  There is a known problem with the graphics where they don't appear as they should due to some issue the game has with detecting graphics cards (again this is going to be stomped out before release).  While I can't fault you on fetch quests, the kill quests require you to kill different kinds of enemies, all with different attack patterns and weaknesses, requiring different strategies for each.

Of course there are no voice overs.  They are all in Korean, and were released for this beta (will they get english voice overs, or will they not, only time will tell).  Also, voice overs are a deal breaker for you?  If thats the case, maybe you should go back to SWTOR.

Music, well, to me its a mixed bag.  Some of the world music is annoying, but you can drown it out easily.  The boss music however, is pretty good (of course if it isn't your kind of music, you could always replace it with some quality Monster Hunter 3 boss music.  I highly recommend Great Jaggi, Moga Woods, and Colosseum boss music).

And the final nail in the coffin that makes your review of this incomplete game null and void is the fact that it is developed by Maiet, not Perfect World Entertainment.  Everyone who makes this mistake proves that they have no idea what they are talking about and did little to no research on the subject, as they can't even differentiate between the developers who have total control of the game and the path it takes, and the publishers, who have zero control of the game and the path it takes (also, as this is a hybrid skill/class based game, pay 2 win items will be highly unlikely, as skill will play a more important role than stats).

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

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8/10/12 6:42:53 AM#16
Originally posted by MadDemon64
Originally posted by TheHavok
Another shitty Korean free to play mmorpg.  Nothing new.  The little kiddies and those that haven't discovered AAA titles will like it.

Ok, what makes it shitty?

But what makes it not?

Get a life you freaking Gamer.....no no, you don't understand, I'm a Gamer, I have many lives!!

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8/10/12 8:57:13 AM#17
Originally posted by Fly666monkey

1. Character Creation could be a lot better, and would it kill the devs to add a skin tone other than White?

I think a lot of people are hoping for these changes.

2. Weapon locking skills makes character customization extremely limited, since switching weapons in combat is pointless.

And yet this fact is negated by the ability for any "class" to weild any weapon, wear any armor, or use skills from other "classes".

3. Extremely linear questing will turn off the Explorer crowd.

A problem in many MMOs

4. The Player Marketplace has the worst interface I have seen in quite some time.

Its in beta, get used to things not looking as good as published MMOs

5. Cannot double tap a movement key to dodge. You have no Idea how many times I have accidentally hit the Windows key while frantically trying to dodge an attack, which minimizes the game and gets me killed every time.

Its confusing at first, but easy to get used to if you try.

6. Language filter is so broken it's not even funny.

Again, its in beta.  Expect problems.

7. The number of characters I can type in before my message is cut off in chat is very limited.

Hopefully this will be fixed by the time it is released.

8. No map icon for mailboxes or party members.

Maybe they haven't been implemented yet (how many times do I have to remind you that this is in beta)?

9. Feels a lot like Terra, in that the action combat seems like the only draw.

Actually, feels a lot closer to Monster Hunter.

10. Combat is clunky at best, and dodging is broken.

You just haven't gotten it down yet.  Neither have I, but thats what having a learnign curve is all about.

11. It's Perfect World.

The only thing this means is that you are part of the "Oh I'm going to say a game sucks not because it has bad gameplay or anything but because I hate the company it is published by, despite the fact that I have absolutely no reason to hate them, and that said company had absolutely nothing to do with its development" crowd.  Congratulations on ruining your entire argument in one sentence.

 

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 8:59:02 AM#18
Originally posted by Boldyn

Look at the text below the OP's avatar....ponder.

 

Notice how he mentiones one certain game as a recipe for success, several times. Consider that game is not released yet...ponder.

 

Gasp over the fact that he even goes as far as to say that the ONLY way to make RaiderZ a success is to scrap it and remake it like a GW2...ponder.

 

Now go read a usefull thread.

QFT.  Just QFT.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 9:00:01 AM#19
Originally posted by Caldrin

Well i must admit i only played it an hour last night... sure its nothing super special but its not bad.. plus its f2p so people can make up their own minds i guess.

Grephics - Not very good really, textures are low res so use of bump mapping on terrain or anything its just flat textures.. this is really annoying me in MMORPGs now.. its 2012 have soem advanced shaders on your terrains please.. Rest of the graphics are nothing special other than the mobs, now there are some really nice looking mobs in this game I give them that :)

There are currently several bugs regarding the graphics, namely the fact that computers with two graphics cards are having the weaker integrated one automatically selected.  This is being worked on and should be fixed soon.

Gameplay - Similar to tera, combat feels a bit better but other than that its tera.

Quests - just your average go kill this go collect that stuff.

Again not really got far into this yet so will give a few more hours at least :)

Blade and Soul looks and plays better tho..

 

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

  MadDemon64

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8/10/12 9:02:51 AM#20
Originally posted by ghost047
Originally posted by MadDemon64
Originally posted by TheHavok
Another shitty Korean free to play mmorpg.  Nothing new.  The little kiddies and those that haven't discovered AAA titles will like it.

Ok, what makes it shitty?

But what makes it not?

You mean aside from the fact that it isn't even in open beta yet?

The game is undergoing beta testing.  Bugs are being fixed.  Issues are beign solved.

The game is incomplete, and not ready for release yet.  Calling it shitty when it is in beta is just pathetic.

Since when is Tuesday a direction?

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