If TERA drops the subscription (they are getting cash shop already so no need for sub, plus its not worth it).... it would be much better than RaiderZ. Ill take Free RaiderZ over monthly payed TERA anytime

This debate seems pretty evenly matched on both sides. Meh, pick a game and have fun.

Originally posted by Durray

Can I please just get Monster Hunter Online,

I know Monster Hunter Tri and the online mode. But give me the real MMO please! For a game style like this it would be incredible.

I pray for this as well, but until it happens, we have RaiderZ (and Phantasy Star Online 2).

Originally posted by Xasapis

The main problem with any perfect world game is that they are all P2win. That means that you can't really play on a PvP server without dishing a considerable amount fo cash to make yourself competitive. No matter how good the game will end up becoming, the cash shop will pollute the PvP aspect. I'm sure it'll be decent if you play on a PvE server though.

As for graphics, it uses an evolution of the Forsaken world engine, so don't expect miracles beyond the graphics of that game. The world design, character design, animation, movement etc, are all a derivative of Forsaken world (for now at least, the game may evolve further, it's in alpha after all).

Lets just hope it doesn't share the same daily quest design of Forsaken world though.

The main problem with any perfect world game isn't that they are pay to win, its that people all think they are when they are not.  I have yet to actually see a solid example of the cash shop ruining PvP, usually because most examples involve situations where an unskilled cash shopper can be countered by a skilled non cash shoper.

As for graphics, it uses a different engine than Forsaken World and all other PWE games (after all, RaiderZ was developed by a different company).  The world design, character design, animation, movement, etc. are all different from  those of Forsaken World, and any claims that one came off of the other is incorrect and misinformed  (seriously, did you even research who developed RaiderZ before posting?).

Originally posted by PurpleCliff

This debate seems pretty evenly matched on both sides. Meh, pick a game and have fun.

I hate to rain on your parade, but a god chunk of the "TERA > RaiderZ" supporters who give evidence to back their claims can't get their facts straight, and while there are more "RaiderZ > TERA" supporters who do not give evidence, an opinion that is not backed up by evidence is better than an opinion that uses evidence that actually goes agaisnt said opinion.

I am sorry, but as it stands now, the "RaiderZ > TERA" supporters are winning.  But you are correct, everyone here should pick a game and have fun.  If TERA goes free to play, I will certainly play it, but for now, RaiderZ is quite possibly the superior game.

How is the PvP system? Is there any?

Tera has awesome combat system with totally dumb and useless PvP. What does Raiderz have?

After playing a few hours i have to say that the game is beautiful.
Very much like Tera with similar combat and control system.
However... hit boxes feel terrible. Combat is not very fluid it seems. Collision is also a major issue. I would say overall I'd much rather play Tera and pay the fee than play RaiderZ :/

got an invite to this yesterday will check it out :)

I played TERA trial (not the browser version, the full download one) and I prefer RaiderZ, I like the combat and the skill system better. RaiderZ CB will definitely help me kill time until GW2. I might even play RaiderZ OB. It looks like a good secondary MMO. :)

Originally posted by stayontarget
I fond RaiderZ to be absolutely horrid,  and no its not a poor mans tera.  Do yourself a favour and avoid this game.

And what about it did you find horrid?

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Originally posted by brianw1
It maybe crap but atleast it free to play.

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When did free to play become a good thing?

Originally posted by AzurePrower

 

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Originally posted by brianw1
It maybe crap but atleast it free to play.

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When did free to play become a good thing?

Better question: When did free to play become synonymous with "its crap"?

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Originally posted by MadDemon64

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Originally posted by AzurePrower  

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Originally posted by brianw1 It maybe crap but atleast it free to play.

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  When did free to play become a good thing?

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Better question: When did free to play become synonymous with "its crap"?

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Since. Like. Forever?

i agree with people who say perfect world = pay to win

have fun with the cash shop

Not as much of TERA as the closest we probably will get to Monster Hunter type games, because they refuse to release those in West. There is a lot of focus on gathering (grinding) monster bits to make better weapons and if you hit the mob right it can drop things like it's shell piece or horn that you can whack them with. 

It's pretty fun, actually more fun than TERA. For once the classes are limited and you can mix and match healer with warrior. The aesthetics are more interesting for me, there are some nice mechanics even early on in the game and the combat feels more satisfying and challenging. 

The downsides? Not best graphics, typical questing mechanics (kill x, bring y etc.) and it will most likely be rather typical F2P system with heavy focus on cash shop as integral part of gameplay. 

Originally posted by AzurePrower

 

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Originally posted by MadDemon64

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Originally posted by AzurePrower  

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Originally posted by brianw1 It maybe crap but atleast it free to play.

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  When did free to play become a good thing?

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Better question: When did free to play become synonymous with "its crap"?

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Since. Like. Forever?

Oh.  I had no idea that you considered Team Fortress 2 to be crap.

You are making an overgeneralization fallacy.  Please reconsider your argument, and rephrase it properly.  Otherwise, this fallacy completely disproves your argument.

Originally posted by Tonin109

i agree with people who say perfect world = pay to win

have fun with the cash shop

You agree with people who have no experience with perfect world cash shops.

Not a good sign.

Originally posted by Ezhae

Not as much of TERA as the closest we probably will get to Monster Hunter type games, because they refuse to release those in West. There is a lot of focus on gathering (grinding) monster bits to make better weapons and if you hit the mob right it can drop things like it's shell piece or horn that you can whack them with. 

It's pretty fun, actually more fun than TERA. For once the classes are limited and you can mix and match healer with warrior. The aesthetics are more interesting for me, there are some nice mechanics even early on in the game and the combat feels more satisfying and challenging. 

The downsides? Not best graphics, typical questing mechanics (kill x, bring y etc.) and it will most likely be rather typical F2P system with heavy focus on cash shop as integral part of gameplay. 

Well, Phantasy Star Online 2 is coming out next year, and from what I have seen, that seems to be a mix of Monster Hunter and Phantasy Star Online, so maybe you will enjoy that.

As for your complaints about the game, the graphics issue is a well known bug caused by RaiderZ preference to select the weaker integrated graphics card instead of stronger graphics cards, and is being fixed as we speak.