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Defiance Forum » General Discussion » Has this game changed?

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  Jaldren

Novice Member

Joined: 9/15/04
Posts: 292

 
OP  6/22/13 5:56:07 PM#1

Left this game after the first or second week, after spending 60$

 

Complete lack of advancement (very minor weapon changes), next to no group content, repetitive missions and 1 (one) active skill. 

 

You just grind achievements to allocate passives, which can be done in a few days.

 

Lastly, all arkfalls were basically using all your ammo, mindlessly attacking (zerg rushing) a static object.

 

Is it different now, and how?

 

Thanks

  User Deleted
6/23/13 11:11:35 PM#2

its still an open world third person shooter, same as it was before you bought it hoping for some in depth mmorpg with complex progression.

I mean you already bought it so just log in and see I guess.

 

If I were you, moving forward, I would check out the main website of games before buying them.  I know for a fact that trion stated exactly what the game was and how it was going to be implemented long before they asked for your money.  Not sure why so many people thought they were going to get some form of WOW or some sandbox with deep mmorpg systems when it clearly stated its goal on being a third person shooter.

  garrett29

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/07/07
Posts: 47

6/24/13 4:16:40 AM#3
The game is going to progress very quickly they want 5 DLCs to be released before season 2... so its up to date with the show..... its a brand new game MMOs take work give it some time they will add and polish this game. it is very decent infact i think its better than borderlands 2 by far.
  Agent_Joseph

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/11/06
Posts: 923

6/24/13 4:34:28 AM#4

log in & check  are there  some positive changes for you !

Defiance is shooter mmo ,if you looking for complex rpg gameplay   in this game just go away. I am sorry!

only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  Whiplash931

Novice Member

Joined: 6/08/06
Posts: 36

6/24/13 4:40:55 AM#5
I actually had this game preorder...till I tried to open beta (pre order beta access). I was bored within an hour, the game is advertised as a 3rd person shooter MMO. The UI sucks....the clan features suck.....people don't want to group for anything. I was super excited about this game too...even the show. I can't even bring myself to watch the TV show cause I was disappointed with how this game turned out.  I think this game is less fun than War Z....thats right I said it...WORSE THAN WAR z.
  taus01

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/12/06
Posts: 1419

6/24/13 4:47:26 AM#6

Plenty of new content added and more Ark Fall type events. This game is a mindless, fun multi-player shooter in an open world. It was never advertised as anything else and it delivers just that.

Have you gotten a weapon set from one of the factions and fully upgraded it to activate all passive effects? If not then you should not even talk about weapon progression.

"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

  thark

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/01/03
Posts: 1107

6/24/13 5:02:01 AM#7
Originally posted by Jaldren

Left this game after the first or second week, after spending 60$

 

Complete lack of advancement (very minor weapon changes), next to no group content, repetitive missions and 1 (one) active skill. 

 

You just grind achievements to allocate passives, which can be done in a few days.

 

Lastly, all arkfalls were basically using all your ammo, mindlessly attacking (zerg rushing) a static object.

 

Is it different now, and how?

 

Thanks

 ..Next to no group content, can you please expleain that ?

I play and have been playing in seven rather large group quests/dungeons, and when you reach San Francisco the game is rather hard in that area. Seven Dungeons that seems about as many as most newly released games are getting..

It's a fun game but rather mindless, yes..No need to change that..

Yes there are new things..Zombie outbreak and a siege type of Pve gameplay

And there is a DLC upcomming soon I guess..

 

 

  Demmi77

Advanced Member

Joined: 2/20/08
Posts: 224

6/24/13 10:07:15 AM#8

i have only been playing about 5 days or so. Ego level 240 ( i play alot and dont see how you can max your passives that quick).

I've noticed that as you level the weapon progression changes alot. Along with outfits, loadouts, passive perks. I enjoy the progression a lot. The game is more skill based, so weapons aren't as do or die although there are some very nice modifiers when you get to 1500 or so ego so i've read.

I first started this solo and realized , it's so much better to group. I rarely do many solo missions. THe co-ops are great and fun and even the main missions are more enjoyable grouped up. As a matter of fact, i do nothing but group in this game come to think of it.

It has it's flaws like anything else but every aspect of it is fun for me. There are no typical skills or anything, just your main ego ability and your guns. I like to aim and shoot and i love that it's a more "real" setting in a post apocolyptic world. The story is really good so far and i just started getting into the shows.

My first arkfall i thought the same thing. If you stand still shooting the crystal , you aren't doing it right. There are a ton of objectives in each arkfall. The only issue i have with them on ps3 is that it can get really laggy and there are some major sound bugs, rendering bugs when there are more than 50 or so people which is almost always at peak hours.

I've run across some random bosses in the world that took me like 25 min to solo. It's been great fun for me so far, well worth the 50$ i paid.

  garrett29

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/07/07
Posts: 47

6/24/13 4:57:55 PM#9
the game rocks and its 2 months old and its a mmo LET IT GROW LET IT DEVELOP and there is no monthly fee you need to grow up no mmo was a success over night it took wow over a year
  MikeJezZ

Novice Member

Joined: 7/08/04
Posts: 1199

Only in death, does duty end.

6/27/13 2:59:48 AM#10
Originally posted by black777

Nope!

The game still sucks.

 

To Bad.

Sadly this.

 

Still no progression.

Playing ATM: Elder Scrolls Online, Diablo 3
MMO's shelted: Check my mmorpg profile
KICKSTARTED: Camelot Unchained. (250 USD)

  Cavadus

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/06
Posts: 719

Officium ante Proprium Bonum

6/29/13 11:28:38 AM#11

Defiance is a shooter, not an RPG.  Shooters are skill based, RPGs are gear checks.

If you want WoW then just go play it and stop belly-aching about how a third person shooter doesn't let you destroy the entire starting area with a thermonuclear warhead and erase the accounts of every single FNG caught in the blast.

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  Gravarg

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Joined: 8/24/06
Posts: 3185

6/29/13 11:35:56 AM#12
Originally posted by Cavadus

Defiance is a shooter, not an RPG.  Shooters are skill based, RPGs are gear checks.

If you want WoW then just go play it and stop belly-aching about how a third person shooter doesn't let you destroy the entire starting area with a thermonuclear warhead and erase the accounts of every single FNG caught in the blast.

QFT

 

If you're looking for an MMO look elsewhere.  If you're looking for a fun online shooter, then this game is one of the best.

  Squeak69

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/21/13
Posts: 972

cheese cheese wheres da bloody cheese

6/29/13 11:41:36 AM#13
Originally posted by Cavadus

Defiance is a shooter, not an RPG.  Shooters are skill based, RPGs are gear checks.

If you want WoW then just go play it and stop belly-aching about how a third person shooter doesn't let you destroy the entire starting area with a thermonuclear warhead and erase the accounts of every single FNG caught in the blast.

that dose not excuse it ffor still having the same basic bugs currently that it had aat launch nore that there DLC has been pushed back and several are starting to wonder if there will even be any DLC at this point, or that the weapons are highly unbalanced, or that the sounds glitchs are rampant, or that a lot of the mission cant be completed due to things not spawning or not responding to player interaction. heck I STILLL cant reload a bloody auto shotgun half the time, and that was supposed to bbe fixed awhile back.

oh and as far as skill base gose in this game your ability to do well depends more on your load out and chosen powers and perks more then your skill in it, Defience is requires less skill to play then several popular MMORPGS.

P.S. alos lets not forget how annoyingly small the map is although I could have forgiven that bit ifthere had acctully been more to do on it, I was expecting a evoleing story not, accolade go fetch mission every week, which is now every other week.

F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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  Ianb4all

Novice Member

Joined: 11/16/10
Posts: 64

7/03/13 9:34:53 PM#14
Originally posted by garrett29
The game is going to progress very quickly they want 5 DLCs to be released before season 2... so its up to date with the show..... its a brand new game MMOs take work give it some time they will add and polish this game. it is very decent infact i think its better than borderlands 2 by far.

Are the DLC's going to be free or will you have to pay for them?

Like previous games the DLC was free(GW2 new content updates) with any type of major expansions (yet again gw1 with their expansions) having to be paid for?

I would get this game but I want to know future content like DLC's will be free and major expansion packs  you can buy?

  Ianb4all

Novice Member

Joined: 11/16/10
Posts: 64

7/03/13 9:36:47 PM#15
Originally posted by Cavadus

Defiance is a shooter, not an RPG.  Shooters are skill based, RPGs are gear checks.

If you want WoW then just go play it and stop belly-aching about how a third person shooter doesn't let you destroy the entire starting area with a thermonuclear warhead and erase the accounts of every single FNG caught in the blast.

Ah bugger and here I was expecting to get a good ole nuke launcher like Fallout!!

  SarcasticShit

Novice Member

Joined: 7/18/13
Posts: 6

7/18/13 11:08:52 PM#16
I got bored pretty quickly. It lacked a certain requirement to hold interest, everything was the same again and again, just in a different spot.
  Amegashie

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/21/06
Posts: 280

7/19/13 2:56:14 AM#17

There have been some improvements and content additions, mostly minor ones. If you had fundamental issues with game design or game mechanics, they're likely still valid.



Originally posted by Ianb4all

Originally posted by garrett29 The game is going to progress very quickly they want 5 DLCs to be released before season 2... so its up to date with the show..... its a brand new game MMOs take work give it some time they will add and polish this game. it is very decent infact i think its better than borderlands 2 by far.
Are the DLC's going to be free or will you have to pay for them? Like previous games the DLC was free(GW2 new content updates) with any type of major expansions (yet again gw1 with their expansions) having to be paid for? I would get this game but I want to know future content like DLC's will be free and major expansion packs  you can buy?
 

DLCs will not be free. You can buy them via a season pass or one at a time. After several delays there is still no official release set for even the first one though, so if and when they'll actually hit the live servers is up to anyone's guess at the moment.

  r3dl4nce

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Joined: 8/29/07
Posts: 121

7/25/13 9:44:29 AM#18
Originally posted by Jaldren

Complete lack of advancement (very minor weapon changes),

It's a quality of the game. Aren't you tired of farming endless gear just to get a +1 and then in the next update... BAM.. farm again, your hard earned gear is useless and you have to farm like an hamster on a wheel again...

 

next to no group content,

Perhaps you did not explored well the game.. there are instanced quest (like dungeons)  that you can do in 4 man group... Major Arkfalls are like an open world raid, because you can't complete in 2-3 players. Instanced PvP and Shadow War are group content.

 

repetitive missions

Most side quests are the common "kill X mobs, take me X items", just like any other PvE MMO out there. The main storyline is not repetitive

 

and 1 (one) active skill. 

4 active skill, you can have one at a time, you have multiple loadouts (max 5) and in each loadout you have different weapons, active skill, perks, shield and so on. Defiance is a shooter, your weapon and your aim and your (the player) ability are "the skills". If you thought Defiance is like WoW / Rift / SW:TOR but with rifles and guns and aliens, no mate, you bought the wrong game for you

 

You just grind achievements to allocate passives, which can be done in a few days.

Can you let me see a screenshot of your character with all perk maxed? thanks

 

Lastly, all arkfalls were basically using all your ammo, mindlessly attacking (zerg rushing) a static object.

You find alot of ammos during arkfalls, and if you have problems with ammo, get a better aim and stop wasting shots on the air...

 

Is it different now, and how?

It's better and better every update, but the game is still a open world shooter, no update will change Defiance in WoW / Rift / insert-generic-grind-based-themepark-here with guns, no thanks

 

 

  TribeofOne

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Joined: 7/10/05
Posts: 978

8/16/13 3:35:12 AM#19
if you can get past the clunky UI and the lack of any open world group activities besides arkfalls and you dont mind that your only chance at purple or orange gear (besides shields/gnades) only come though buying the RNG gamble crates; then Defiance is an OK shooter.  Ill believe the DLC and show tie ins exists when/if we actually see them.
  Beauman

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Joined: 12/16/05
Posts: 144

8/19/13 12:32:02 AM#20
Originally posted by taus01

Plenty of new content added and more Ark Fall type events. This game is a mindless, fun multi-player shooter in an open world. It was never advertised as anything else and it delivers just that.

Have you gotten a weapon set from one of the factions and fully upgraded it to activate all passive effects? If not then you should not even talk about weapon progression.

 

Actually, it was also very heavily advertised as a tight Transmedia link between the game and the show, of which it has failed misreably.

So, in fact, it was advertised as more than just a Shooter, or even a Shooter inspired by a show. The two were to be connected, but Trion Worlds can't get their P.R. straight since April, never mind the game itself.

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