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Defiance Forum » General Discussion » Watched Youtube vids, no sandbox, just fetch quests 90% of the time?

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  Yamota

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3/21/13 7:40:57 PM#21
Originally posted by Yizle
Originally posted by charlizd
was it even penned as Sandbox?? i know the Repopulation is but i dont think Defiance is as it is hand in hand with the upcoming tv series, Sandbox would not progress quckly enough to keep up with the tv series.

Yeah I do not remember them promoting it as a sandbox. Maybe the OP can post a link to where they did.

 

Even though I would love a new sandbox with the elements I enjoy does not look like that will be coming out anytime soon.

They haven't promoted it as ThemePark either have they? So I guess it was kind of an open question.

However, coming from Trion, would indicate that it would be a ThemePark since Rift is as ThemePark as you can get.

  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 7:45:46 PM#22
Its pretty sandboxy to me since I havent zoned anywhere but one intance for a mission in the main quest line. I get to drive anywhere I want so far within the map I have been playing in. 

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  coretex666

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3/21/13 7:50:08 PM#23
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Jesus..what is with people complaining about every new MMO for not being sandbox? did Trion ever said anything about Defiance having sandbox elements? or it is just a new cool thing to do now? to complain about every new MMO for not being sandboxy enough even though devs never claimed it to be in first place?

These forums used to be a decent mix of mmo gamers but they've tipped really really heavily toward the MMO hipster the past two years.

 

"Not a sandbox? Fail."

 

 

Which is why GW 2 is the highest rated and most popular game on this forum apparently.

 

Currently playing: L2 Chronicle 4

  Darkcrystal

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3/21/13 7:53:31 PM#24
Originally posted by Ezhae

I don't think it was ever advertised as sandbox. It's open world third person shooter MMO with story line, events (Ark falls) that are similar to rifts from Rift, consensual objective based PvP, battleground PvP, group instances and normal quests. 

 

They never said it was a sand box , this person is correct, and if you say DEFIANCE is bad, you will lose out, great game so far, Trion knows there stuff.

  austriacus

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3/21/13 7:57:16 PM#25
Originally posted by tkreep
Its pretty sandboxy to me since I havent zoned anywhere but one intance for a mission in the main quest line. I get to drive anywhere I want so far within the map I have been playing in. 

I take it that WoW is a sandbox game now according to you, yes?

Jesus fucking lord people.

  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 8:04:04 PM#26
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by tkreep
Its pretty sandboxy to me since I havent zoned anywhere but one intance for a mission in the main quest line. I get to drive anywhere I want so far within the map I have been playing in. 

I take it that WoW is a sandbox game now according to you, yes?

Jesus fucking lord people.

So is Grand theft auto and to a lot of gamer friends I have also

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  taus01

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3/21/13 8:17:55 PM#27
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

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  Eir_S

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3/21/13 9:16:34 PM#28
Originally posted by tkreep
I been playing the PS3 beta which started on the 19th and I have never had so much fun and addicted to an mmo like this before. Its almost exactly like a Borderlands mmo because the missions are a lot like borderlands and the weapons are kind of random like borderlands, there are even timed special sales in vendors for weapons just like in borderlands.  There are no mission where you have to kill x number of whatever.  There are missions like where you have to install bombs or diffuse them.  Protect NPCs from waves of mobs while the npc hacks computers n such. The combat is so damn fun.  I guess I realy like it because its fun like borderlands so if you like borderlands you will love this.

Hmmmm... I loved Borderlands (still waiting for BL2 to drop in price).  Maybe you sold me on Defiance... however, I'm not paying 60 bucks for something I will probably only play a few months.

  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 9:18:27 PM#29
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

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  Loktofeit

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3/21/13 9:27:00 PM#30
Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Jesus..what is with people complaining about every new MMO for not being sandbox? did Trion ever said anything about Defiance having sandbox elements? or it is just a new cool thing to do now? to complain about every new MMO for not being sandboxy enough even though devs never claimed it to be in first place?

These forums used to be a decent mix of mmo gamers but they've tipped really really heavily toward the MMO hipster the past two years.

 

"Not a sandbox? Fail."

Which is why GW 2 is the highest rated and most popular game on this forum apparently.

On this site, not on these forums. If this site is like other fansites, there's some overlap between the news readers and forum goers, but it's not all that much.

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  austriacus

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3/21/13 9:30:00 PM#31
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 9:31:59 PM#32
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

Been playin mmos since Ultima Online and most of the mmos I have played since then have mobs that respawn in same locations such as the most popular one called WoW. ryzom doesnt even exist anymore and what the hell is a salem.  Eve is too dofferent to compare.

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  rojoArcueid

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3/21/13 9:37:40 PM#33

Its the sibling of Firefall. Not twins, just two sisters. You can notice their familiar traits, but each has their own personality.

If you love one, you will most likely love the other ;)

  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 9:44:26 PM#34
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

Ok I just checked out Salems page and LOL!!! Seriously...? HAHAHAHAH

https://33.media.tumblr.com/262c40940b3181ade1001120dd379aaa/tumblr_nfrzn853rR1rz64nto6_r1_400.gif

  austriacus

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3/21/13 9:54:27 PM#35
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by tkreep
Originally posted by taus01
Originally posted by arieste

/facepalm.

 

OP, you do realize this isn't even a MMORPG, right?  It's a persistent shooter.

 

That being said.. sure it's sandbox... i guess.  I mean, you don't have to log in and follow a set quest path to progress afaik.  You log in and go do whatever you want wherever you want.  Just, mainly "the whatever" is limited to shooting stuff.

There is no persistance in this shooter other than the persistance of the mobs to spawn from random doors/trucks over and over and over... and over. It's almost funny and i can't wait for the first benny hill remixes of those videos i seen online.

It looks really boring if you ask me.

isnt that how it is in all mmos and video games?

Hi, are you using an account that isnt yours? because you seem to be new to the mmo genre and not since 2006. I can name one flop and one bad game that have persistance apart from mobs, Ryzom and Salem. And lets not get into Eve here.

This game is a coop BL, thats it. And i think thats cool.

Ok I just checked out Salems page and LOL!!! Seriously...? HAHAHAHAH

Thats why i said it was bad, read my post. I just said that it tracks persistance on other stuff apart from mobs which you said was the only thing games did nowdays. If a game as bad as that one can do it....well then what does it say about the good games?

  donjuanagain

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3/21/13 10:04:22 PM#36
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by D3Perfecto93
Originally posted by Jeroam
am i missing something, or is that mostly it? i cant be bothered being interested, if theres no sandbox elements, and just boring fetch quests.  mybe the occasional pvp, but doesnt actually have any real meaninful rewards for it.

If you're abit fuzzy about questing then why bother signing up for the beta?

So he can decide whether he wants to play the finished game and if his concerns are valid?  Gee!  You'd think people sign up for betas because of the free launch loot.

I thought everyone signed up for betas for the free launch loot. Am I wrong?

  Deerhunter71

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3/21/13 10:14:21 PM#37
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by tkreep
I been playing the PS3 beta which started on the 19th and I have never had so much fun and addicted to an mmo like this before. Its almost exactly like a Borderlands mmo because the missions are a lot like borderlands and the weapons are kind of random like borderlands, there are even timed special sales in vendors for weapons just like in borderlands.  There are no mission where you have to kill x number of whatever.  There are missions like where you have to install bombs or diffuse them.  Protect NPCs from waves of mobs while the npc hacks computers n such. The combat is so damn fun.  I guess I realy like it because its fun like borderlands so if you like borderlands you will love this.

Hmmmm... I loved Borderlands (still waiting for BL2 to drop in price).  Maybe you sold me on Defiance... however, I'm not paying 60 bucks for something I will probably only play a few months.

$60 for a few months seems like a deal to me....  Lot of people blow that one night at the bar or just one dinner...  Whereas this can get you a good few months of every night enjoyment.

  narial

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3/21/13 10:30:14 PM#38

this always cracks me up

 

people who complain that a new mmorpg is not a sandbox don't actually pay sandbox mmorpgs. if they did eve would have a LOT more subs.

  KatlaOdindottir

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3/21/13 10:34:50 PM#39
The fact you can drive through everyone and their nan is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in games, was really excited until I saw that.

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  ElRenmazuo

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3/21/13 10:48:23 PM#40
Originally posted by KatlaOdindottir
The fact you can drive through everyone and their nan is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen in games, was really excited until I saw that.

You cant hit players but you can damage mobs by ramming them and different cars do different damage like the hummer does a lot more than the buggy but is not as fast

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