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Star Wars Galaxies Forum » General Discussion » "How I Helped Destroy Star Wars Galaxies"

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  packetlss

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OP  3/07/12 7:16:46 AM#1
  RefMinor

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3/07/12 7:24:39 AM#2
I am sure that is how he remembers it.

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  Yamota

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Posts: 6222

There's a beast within every man that stirs when you put a sword in his hand

3/07/12 7:26:43 AM#3

Very interesting. Altough I dont condone his actions it truly shows how sandbox games shine so much brighter than ThemeParks. The freedom and what a person, with devotion, can achieve in a sandbox is so much greater than in a simplistic ThemePark where you can be a Jedi at day one with no effort put in.

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

  BrokenSpoon

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3/07/12 7:31:17 AM#4

Great read - makes me think if he had placed that effort in to something outside of the game he may be a £ millionaire by now. 

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  tom_gore

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3/07/12 7:31:41 AM#5
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

 

They became for lazy and low achievers when the corporations realized that there are at least ten lazy and low achieving people for each gaming enthusiastic.

 

  MMOarQQ

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 659

"Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain."

3/07/12 7:35:38 AM#6
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

  WhiteLantern

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3/07/12 7:43:26 AM#7

What I got out of this guy's article:

"I expolited the living hell out of this game. Broke the TOS. Employed others to break the TOS. How dare they make changes and destroy this game I loved!?! It was making me rich!"

 

I guess it does show that not all gold farmers/sellers are from Asia.

I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  RefMinor

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3/07/12 7:47:59 AM#8
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  gotha

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3/07/12 7:49:02 AM#9
Originally posted by WhiteLantern

What I got out of this guy's article:

"I expolited the living hell out of this game. Broke the TOS. Employed others to break the TOS. How dare they make changes and destroy this game I loved!?! It was making me rich!"

 

I guess it does show that not all gold farmers/sellers are from Asia.

Kind of a bad messenger in some respects.

  Jamel-Irief

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Joined: 10/06/10
Posts: 18

3/07/12 7:53:05 AM#10
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

These quotes are the truth. 

  Sith2112

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Joined: 12/01/11
Posts: 29

3/07/12 7:54:21 AM#11

An excellent article that not only talks about the exploiting and money making scheme.

There are some prime examples of how the MMORPG genre is evolving into todays "facilitating" game changes.

Most are of the old days when working to level and achieve things were time consuming and more gratifying. Now, there are complaints of graphics, engines, PVP, them park vs Sandbox and so on. The truth is, those of us who played EQ and UO and the more earlier games are a dying breed and the more (what I like to call) self entitlement players are dominating the market. 

As for the companies like "EA, BioWare, SOE" an others, it's all about making money and keeping shareholders happy. If a good portion of the players want features, they get implemented.

Oh well, enough of my rant.

 

Game On... hehe

  Creslin321

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3/07/12 8:01:53 AM#12
Originally posted by Jamel-Irief
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

These quotes are the truth. 

I really don't think it's as simple as that...

While I enjoyed reading the article, it definitely made SWG look like a game I would never want to play.  I don't know about you guys, but I don't really picture the "Star Wars Experience" as a business simulator.

Don't get me wrong, I love complex games (Dominions 3 ftw), but I'm not really keen on playing an MMORPG where I either exploit people by wasting my life tracking market values and capturing key business assets, or I am exploited by those people.  While it may be complex, it just isn't fun for a lot of people.

I would seriously like to play a complex sandbox MMO that is about you know...adventuring and/or role playing...not about capturing markets.

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  RefMinor

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3/07/12 8:04:47 AM#13
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Jamel-Irief
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

These quotes are the truth. 

I really don't think it's as simple as that...

While I enjoyed reading the article, it definitely made SWG look like a game I would never want to play.  I don't know about you guys, but I don't really picture the "Star Wars Experience" as a business simulator.

Don't get me wrong, I love complex games (Dominions 3 ftw), but I'm not really keen on playing an MMORPG where I either exploit people by wasting my life tracking market values and capturing key business assets, or I am exploited by those people.  While it may be complex, it just isn't fun for a lot of people.

I would seriously like to play a complex sandbox MMO that is about you know...adventuring and/or role playing...not about capturing markets.

 

I would rather play a game that let me choose whether to be a businessman, crafter, adventurer, ranger, entertainer, combat medic, pet trainer, droid maker, bounty hunter etc. it's a sandbox, how you play is your choice, you don't have to craft, you can earn money with a gun and pay it to others to do that work.

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  Voiidiin

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3/07/12 8:14:07 AM#14

You all can't really believ this guy is telling the truth ?

 

You seriously believe that he did all this ?

 

SOE may have been asshats and allowed some exploiting and some of the gold farmers got out of hand at some points but they spotted trends long before they became as serious as this guy claims he did. Its patently ridiculous that he even claims to have employed other asian gold farmers and inspired loyalty ?

 

Sorry i am not calling any of the posters here liars but it really comes across as naive if you really believe that guys blog.

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  RefMinor

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3/07/12 8:15:57 AM#15
Originally posted by Voiidiin

You all can't really believ this guy is telling the truth ?

 

You seriously believe that he did all this ?

 

SOE may have been asshats and allowed some exploiting and some of the gold farmers got out of hand at some points but they spotted trends long before they became as serious as this guy claims he did. Its patently ridiculous that he even claims to have employed other asian gold farmers and inspired loyalty ?

 

Sorry i am not calling any of the posters here liars but it really comes across as naive if you really believe that guys blog.

 

Please note post number 2. Which indicates disbelief

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  Robsolf

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3/07/12 9:04:19 AM#16

"Because it wasn’t the game I loved. That game died in 2005 with the NGE/CU. It died when developers turned their backs on the gamers who had spent the effort and instead listened to the lazy, whining voices who wanted it all given to them."

Actually, according to him it died the minute he could no longer make money off of it.

It's yet another good example of how "freedom" players destroy the games they love. 

Gankers kill PvP games.

Exploiters kill sandboxes.

The end.

Interesting article, though.  Thanks for posting, OP!

  GrayGhost79

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Posts: 4864

3/07/12 9:11:25 AM#17

Just doesn't ring true to me. It seems more like an anti SWG piece meant to drum up support for SWTOR by showing the "flaws" in an open sandbox world. 

 

Good creative writing at least :)

  Slampig

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3/07/12 9:11:54 AM#18
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Jamel-Irief
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

These quotes are the truth. 

I really don't think it's as simple as that...

While I enjoyed reading the article, it definitely made SWG look like a game I would never want to play.  I don't know about you guys, but I don't really picture the "Star Wars Experience" as a business simulator.

Don't get me wrong, I love complex games (Dominions 3 ftw), but I'm not really keen on playing an MMORPG where I either exploit people by wasting my life tracking market values and capturing key business assets, or I am exploited by those people.  While it may be complex, it just isn't fun for a lot of people.

I would seriously like to play a complex sandbox MMO that is about you know...adventuring and/or role playing...not about capturing markets.

Good luck with that seeing how it seems the majority of gamers, at least on this site, are too concerned with a companies shares and stocks and everything that ISN'T the game...

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  Yamota

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3/07/12 9:16:21 AM#19
Originally posted by Creslin321
Originally posted by Jamel-Irief
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by MMOarQQ
Originally posted by Yamota

When did PC games become for lazy and low achievers? This was not always the case.

INB4 someone whines about having no time to play because of his 3 kids, wife and dead end job.

 

There should be no complex games available because of ME ME ME

These quotes are the truth. 

I really don't think it's as simple as that...

While I enjoyed reading the article, it definitely made SWG look like a game I would never want to play.  I don't know about you guys, but I don't really picture the "Star Wars Experience" as a business simulator.

Don't get me wrong, I love complex games (Dominions 3 ftw), but I'm not really keen on playing an MMORPG where I either exploit people by wasting my life tracking market values and capturing key business assets, or I am exploited by those people.  While it may be complex, it just isn't fun for a lot of people.

I would seriously like to play a complex sandbox MMO that is about you know...adventuring and/or role playing...not about capturing markets.

It was a bussiness simulator for him.For other's it was anything you wanted it to be, a true sandbox. Well atleast until NGE... say what you want about Jedi's, atleast back then it actually took some effort to become a Jedi instead of in SW:TOR where anyone can be one from their first character and everyone will have saved the Republic by the time they reached level 50.  

  DrSpanky

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3/07/12 9:32:29 AM#20

meh...he spends most of the piece telling us about how he got set up in the economy and started making real world money. Then he complains about NGE/CU. Doesn't make much sense to me, but it was an interesting read.

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