Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by akevv

I think it would be extremely foolish to invest real $$$ in anything provided by SOE. Have they not proven, OVER AND OVER, that they have no respect whatsoever for a player's virtual property and progress? Now, they expect you to spend additional cash on cards? That is ludicrous. Did the game get any cheaper per month? Is this not equivalent to raising the price of a subscription? Items that should have been in the game are now available, but for an extra fee? YOU SUBSCRIBERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH THIS? Wow, is all I can say.

 

Hi

 

THERE IS NO EXTRA FEE FOR THE CARD GAME

PERIOD

 

So the cards are free?

 

Active SWG accounts get a free booster pack(s) every month or so, in which all 'free' cards are no trade. If you want more booster packs (most are looking for loot cards), then those packs will cost you. Bought cards are tradable, even the loot ones. I have read that once a bought loot card is redeemed, then item becomes no trade.

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

It is only a scam to those willing to spend untold amounts of money in their quest for the newest and rarest 'shiny' that only the loot cards can give. Each booster pack cost $2.99 US, or the bargain box of 36 packs for $99.99 US.

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by akevv

I think it would be extremely foolish to invest real $$$ in anything provided by SOE. Have they not proven, OVER AND OVER, that they have no respect whatsoever for a player's virtual property and progress? Now, they expect you to spend additional cash on cards? That is ludicrous. Did the game get any cheaper per month? Is this not equivalent to raising the price of a subscription? Items that should have been in the game are now available, but for an extra fee? YOU SUBSCRIBERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH THIS? Wow, is all I can say.

 

Hi

 

THERE IS NO EXTRA FEE FOR THE CARD GAME

PERIOD

 

So the cards are free?

 

Active SWG accounts get a free booster pack(s) every month or so, in which all 'free' cards are no trade. If you want more booster packs (most are looking for loot cards), then those packs will cost you. Bought cards are tradable, even the loot ones. I have read that once a bought loot card is redeemed, then item becomes no trade.

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

It is only a scam to those willing to spend untold amounts of money in their quest for the newest and rarest 'shiny' that only the loot cards can give. Each booster pack cost $2.99 US, or the bargain box of 36 packs for $99.99 US.

It's a scam because you can only get the items by spending money on top of your regular monthly subscription. What's even sadder is that they are trying to pass it off as content for the players.

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by akevv

I think it would be extremely foolish to invest real $$$ in anything provided by SOE. Have they not proven, OVER AND OVER, that they have no respect whatsoever for a player's virtual property and progress? Now, they expect you to spend additional cash on cards? That is ludicrous. Did the game get any cheaper per month? Is this not equivalent to raising the price of a subscription? Items that should have been in the game are now available, but for an extra fee? YOU SUBSCRIBERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH THIS? Wow, is all I can say.

 

Hi

 

THERE IS NO EXTRA FEE FOR THE CARD GAME

PERIOD

 

So the cards are free?

 

Active SWG accounts get a free booster pack(s) every month or so, in which all 'free' cards are no trade. If you want more booster packs (most are looking for loot cards), then those packs will cost you. Bought cards are tradable, even the loot ones. I have read that once a bought loot card is redeemed, then item becomes no trade.

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

It is only a scam to those willing to spend untold amounts of money in their quest for the newest and rarest 'shiny' that only the loot cards can give. Each booster pack cost $2.99 US, or the bargain box of 36 packs for $99.99 US.

It's a scam because you can only get the items by spending money on top of your regular monthly subscription. What's even sadder is that they are trying to pass it off as content for the players.

Exhibit A

And since they'll likely remove the thread as they've been doing over at the Oboards when somebody brings this up...

Mayorofclowntown

Wing Commander

Joined: Jul 2, 2005
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Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by akevv

I think it would be extremely foolish to invest real $$$ in anything provided by SOE. Have they not proven, OVER AND OVER, that they have no respect whatsoever for a player's virtual property and progress? Now, they expect you to spend additional cash on cards? That is ludicrous. Did the game get any cheaper per month? Is this not equivalent to raising the price of a subscription? Items that should have been in the game are now available, but for an extra fee? YOU SUBSCRIBERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH THIS? Wow, is all I can say.

 

Hi

 

THERE IS NO EXTRA FEE FOR THE CARD GAME

PERIOD

 

So the cards are free?

 

Active SWG accounts get a free booster pack(s) every month or so, in which all 'free' cards are no trade. If you want more booster packs (most are looking for loot cards), then those packs will cost you. Bought cards are tradable, even the loot ones. I have read that once a bought loot card is redeemed, then item becomes no trade.

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

It is only a scam to those willing to spend untold amounts of money in their quest for the newest and rarest 'shiny' that only the loot cards can give. Each booster pack cost $2.99 US, or the bargain box of 36 packs for $99.99 US.

It's a scam because you can only get the items by spending money on top of your regular monthly subscription. What's even sadder is that they are trying to pass it off as content for the players.

You still get the slight chance of getting a loot card(s) in the free monthly booster packs, but it may not necessarily be one that your character can use, nor can it be traded.

     I would not doubt that SOE will manipulate the chances of getting a rare item from the booster packs. Higher chances of getting something from the packs that you buy.

Originally posted by Bob_Blawblaw

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Kazara

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by Gutboy

Originally posted by akevv

I think it would be extremely foolish to invest real $$$ in anything provided by SOE. Have they not proven, OVER AND OVER, that they have no respect whatsoever for a player's virtual property and progress? Now, they expect you to spend additional cash on cards? That is ludicrous. Did the game get any cheaper per month? Is this not equivalent to raising the price of a subscription? Items that should have been in the game are now available, but for an extra fee? YOU SUBSCRIBERS ARE ACTUALLY OK WITH THIS? Wow, is all I can say.

 

Hi

 

THERE IS NO EXTRA FEE FOR THE CARD GAME

PERIOD

 

So the cards are free?

 

Active SWG accounts get a free booster pack(s) every month or so, in which all 'free' cards are no trade. If you want more booster packs (most are looking for loot cards), then those packs will cost you. Bought cards are tradable, even the loot ones. I have read that once a bought loot card is redeemed, then item becomes no trade.

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

It is only a scam to those willing to spend untold amounts of money in their quest for the newest and rarest 'shiny' that only the loot cards can give. Each booster pack cost $2.99 US, or the bargain box of 36 packs for $99.99 US.

It's a scam because you can only get the items by spending money on top of your regular monthly subscription. What's even sadder is that they are trying to pass it off as content for the players.

 

Exhibit A

And since they'll likely remove the thread as they've been doing over at the Oboards when somebody brings this up...

 

Mayorofclowntown

Wing Commander

Joined: Jul 2, 2005
Messages: 491
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/scratches head

/flamesuit on

Ok...

I spend years collecting resourses to feed the masses weapons/armor. In order to compete with others/no decay, I have to sell said items for really cheap.

(No disrespect) New Guildmate (played less than 3 months) buys 10 packs of cards. Gets 2 loot cards and sells them both for a combined mass of 400mil.

Is it just me, or did this game just become "Hey ,I bought a pack of cards full of rare game loots and content that you'll never get to craft."

All they did was bust the stitches to get a little more blood out.

/rant off

Regular, crafted goods are no longer bring in the big bucks...loot does. Now the only way to get this rare loot is to eaither buy booster packs (God knows how many), or wait month to month as the free booster packs roll in and cross your fingers that a loot card appears. Then, only the players who forked out the cash for extra booster packs can sell any loot cards he/she may receive for an instant fortune. The game started as a playerbase economy focused on crafted items, then it went to a loot based economy....now there is all out 'gambling' for loot cards that will fetch some of the highest prices in the game. $OE can't figure out how to fix, let alone properly manage, SWG, but they certainly can come up with ways to bleed willing players. The impact on the trader professions or economy is of little concern to $OE.

Originally posted by Kazara

 The impact on the trader professions or economy is of little concern to $OE.

It's been a looooooooooooooong time since crafters were any concern to SOE.

Originally posted by Gutboy

A vast majority of players I interact with in the game have zero interest in the actual card game, the free 5 packs of cards you get each month for just having a subscription are fine, we just claim the loot as it appears and dump the other actual playing cards.

The loot is mostly deco items, a few new speeders, the pod racer and nothing that actually effects core gameplay. It's all fluff, if someone wants to be Johnny badass trading card gamer and spend more cash to get better playing cards more power to them.

Do you guys jump down on the dude at McDonalds for asking if you want the large fries? (microtransaction)

 

So the Gorax card that gives you stat bonuses (+200 constitution and +200 luck) is "all fluff?"  It's not fluff.  It affects combat ability, and you just lied to everyone on these boards, and yeah, I'm calling you on it.

Fluff is the decoration stuff you mentioned, but you went on to say "all" the trading card items are like that.  I think you owe everyone an apology.  If you think lying to customers is going to help this game's population, you need to reflect on its history.

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Right so to get any benefit out of the card game (loot cards) there is a cost. Therefore it's yet another SOE scam.

And those cards are subject to changes.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

So the Gorax card that gives you stat bonuses (+200 constitution and +200 luck) is "all fluff?"  It's not fluff.  It affects combat ability, and you just lied to everyone on these boards, and yeah, I'm calling you on it.

So in other words, real money can be used to have impact in the game world and combat ability... great. 

So in addition to a top end subscription plan there are micro-payments.

So then... when are those advertisements going to pop in (of course not passing the savings to the customer)?