Well in my desperate quest to find another "home" MMO after 3 years on CoX, I've finally come around to trying this game everyone's been dissing for so long, and quite frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about.  It's a pretty decent game IMHO.

Now, before anybody gets too excited, I do appreciate that it isn't the game it was at one time, and it probably isn't as good a game as it was at one time.  But in and of itself, as it stands, it's not a bad game at all.  It's a fairly standard MMO, but not terrible by any means.

After a bit of fiddling and twiddling I've got the controls down to "standard" MMO controls and camera.  The game's a bit of a hog, but I've got a decent comp so it looks okay.  Not gobsmacking, but ok for such an old game.

The combat gameplay is decent enough and exciting enough - standard, but certainly not sub-standard.

But the main thing is - it's a bloody science fiction MMO!!!

I mean, there are precious few of them around, you'd think that people would be glad to have one as decent as this?  But I guess people were just hurt too badly by SOE's stupid decisions.

But to anybody who's never played it and wants a change from fantasy, so far I'd recommend it.

So NPCs shooting through floors and walls, Warping around, Running around faster than speeders and aggroing really late is not sub-standard?

SWG is a very fun game if you never played it back in the day.

It IS buggy for sure.

The problems with the game are mainly population issues because of the changes made, and after a year or so, you've done almost everything worth doing.

Still, if you have a lower grade computer and are jonesing for some sci fi, at the moment SWG is about all you have to fill it.

The space content is great as well.

I have stopped playing, there needs to be a major addition of content before I come back, but all in all, it's not a bad game. Not great, but not as bad as most make it out to be.

OP, you are easily impressed.  This game is broken and empty, and it isn't getting any better with a skeleton development crew and dead servers...

LucasArts doesn't even advertise it.

Get off the newbie station and see the game as it really is.

One post saying someone considers the game "decent" and there are 3 attacks on it already?

Is there something wrong with someone having fun with it?

I agree with a lot of what the OP said.  It's not the most unique system of combat anymore, but it is certainly passable.  There is still a lot of glitching and things with npcs, but that's easily overcome.  I haven't even seen serious shooting through walls for awhile.

When a game comes out that older SWG players consider "fun", will they still haunt the forum for current players?

To the OP,

I'm sure the game is a lot better now. You are going to run into a lot of people(like me) who quit when the NGE came out, and will forever have the NGE burned into their mind exactly how it was when it came out. Not only did it destroy an amazing game, but its initial implementation was absolutely horrid and unplayable. That is why you run into so much negativity and claims of how broken it is. Many people played the original incarnation of the NGE, saw what it was, and ran like hell, never looking back, and are stuck thinking that the game is still in that shape today.

While I'm sure the game is a lot better now, and I would probably like it a little, I refuse to give SOE any more of my money.

Originally posted by Abrahmm

To the OP,

I'm sure the game is a lot better now. You are going to run into a lot of people(like me) who quit when the NGE came out, and will forever have the NGE burned into their mind exactly how it was when it came out. Not only did it destroy an amazing game, but its initial implementation was absolutely horrid and unplayable. That is why you run into so much negativity and claims of how broken it is. Many people played the original incarnation of the NGE, saw what it was, and ran like hell, never looking back, and are stuck thinking that the game is still in that shape today.

While I'm sure the game is a lot better now, and I would probably like it a little, I refuse to give SOE any more of my money.

I think we can all respect people like you.  I never played pre-cu, as I hadn't even gotten into MMOs and didn't know it existed.  I started playing in the CU, and while it's true I miss the skill system, I don't consider the modern NGE 2.0 all that bad.  It still has a lot of problems I'm sure, but there are things about the game that make it worth playing to me.

I just wish more of the ex-vets were like you, and spoke with actions rather attacking current players for having fun. 

/tiphat

Originally posted by Darth_Pete

So NPCs shooting through floors and walls, Warping around, Running around faster than speeders and aggroing really late is not sub-standard?

The only really annoying thing I've encountered that's anything like you mention is the occasional serious bit of weird lag where you're apparently attacking but not attacking, but yet you are being attacked.  If it happens too much I'll have to drop the game, but so far it's only happened occasionally.

Have fun playing SWG and have fun with SOE spitting in your face.

You have been warned.

Just google "Star Wars Galaxies Private Server" and you can have a taste of what the game used to be pre-cu/nge...

Originally posted by Wickersham

Have fun playing SWG and have fun with SOE spitting in your face.

You have been warned.

Christ, give it a rest.

Funny, I never had them spit in my face in EQ2.  They actually improved Vanguard.  MxO was a lost cause before they ever got it . . . Monolith had zero MMO experience.

I haven't seen them screw-up PoTBS yet.  FLS is doing that fine without SOE input.

And yes, I was in SWG pre-CU.  I was there in the CU.  I was there on November 5, 2005.  I left February 2006.  Will I come back?  Who knows.  Over the past 2 years, I've pretty much moved on and just don't need that "Star Wars fix" anymore.

Originally posted by Beauman

Originally posted by Wickersham

Have fun playing SWG and have fun with SOE spitting in your face.

You have been warned.

Christ, give it a rest.

This would be one of those "practice what you preach" moments...