Originally posted by salvaje

 

Originally posted by BushMonkey

 Why yes haven't you heard the game is a WoW killer.

 

I want some of the drugs that Smed was on when, in a Slashdot interview shortly after the NGE was released (and when he had 250,000 people pissed off to no end at him) when he proclaimed that the NGE was the game to beat WoW.  That must have been some killer stuff.

 

 

Smed doesn't make use of drugs.  If that is given ,what is left to explain that behavior...hm...

It's based on a few things what server you pick some have high pop some dead and if you are like 90% of all vets that go back and don't give it more then 5 mins when it will take you a week easy just to learn how to play one of the profs if you last to this point you may find the game is in a state where its fun to play again but its no pre cu and you got to face it swg is still the best mmo in any state there is and you can't forget is better to take a blaster to a furbag wookies head then a magic fire ball to an elf any day

PS i'm not some $oe fanboy i hate them as much as you do and want pre cu back but what i say is true if most vet sgave the game a few weeks they may just find its fun to play again

Originally posted by salvaje

If you mean:

Does it still have only 9 static professions,
Since when has a game had professions that could be changed into others? Get over it the Skill system was a failure and introduced the most Henious unbalanced gameplay in history...mind shot / disease FTW!!!11!1!

Jedi still available on character creation,

So? Its a class and is inline with the Star Wars 1 - 3. Stop Identifying Jedi with Luke Invincible Sywalker and Darth death choke across video screen miles away Vader please.

no meaningfully unique skill templates,

LoL, there is more to a game than crunching skill points ftw

Benny Hill movement,  no animations, Batman particle effects,

The Engine is 2003 and as we all know by a majority of the Game community, Gameplay Trumphs Graphics...you want graphics? go play Tabula and good luck with gameplay lol!

 horrid UI,

It takes skill to use the UI and once you L2P its not an issue

pseudo FPS by default,

Again, Skill

lag despite few players due to a combat system that runs several times faster than the internet can handle,

That is not lag, thats an issue with the database thats going to be fixed in CH 8

crafted items still suck compared to looted,

Not True anymore, this was fixed by the collection system additions

etc, etc...

Ran outta propaganda eh'?

Then your answer is NO. 

Actually yes, the game is a heck of allot better and has a growing playerbase, right now galaxies just passed 100k players as of the first of the year.

It hasn't changed fundamentally from what we were forced to accept on 11/15/2005.  They've put some new coats of lipstick on it, but it's still the same pig.

Wrong Answer! In its current state the game is the best MMO out right now.

 About all that has changed is that it has even less subscribers than a year ago.

Yep, the subscription base has increased!

 

 - SWG The WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Horkathane

Originally posted by salvaje

If you mean:

Does it still have only 9 static professions,
Since when has a game had professions that could be changed into others? Get over it the Skill system was a failure and introduced the most Henious unbalanced gameplay in history...mind shot / disease FTW!!!11!1!

Jedi still available on character creation,

So? Its a class and is inline with the Star Wars 1 - 3. Stop Identifying Jedi with Luke Invincible Sywalker and Darth death choke across video screen miles away Vader please.

no meaningfully unique skill templates,

LoL, there is more to a game than crunching skill points ftw

Benny Hill movement,  no animations, Batman particle effects,

The Engine is 2003 and as we all know by a majority of the Game community, Gameplay Trumphs Graphics...you want graphics? go play Tabula and good luck with gameplay lol!

 horrid UI,

It takes skill to use the UI and once you L2P its not an issue

pseudo FPS by default,

Again, Skill

lag despite few players due to a combat system that runs several times faster than the internet can handle,

That is not lag, thats an issue with the database thats going to be fixed in CH 8

crafted items still suck compared to looted,

Not True anymore, this was fixed by the collection system additions

etc, etc...

Ran outta propaganda eh'?

Then your answer is NO. 

Actually yes, the game is a heck of allot better and has a growing playerbase, right now galaxies just passed 100k players as of the first of the year.

It hasn't changed fundamentally from what we were forced to accept on 11/15/2005.  They've put some new coats of lipstick on it, but it's still the same pig.

Wrong Answer! In its current state the game is the best MMO out right now.

 About all that has changed is that it has even less subscribers than a year ago.

Yep, the subscription base has increased!

 

 - SWG The WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!

I dont post very often but the text in red is probably the biggest load of crap i have ever read. Skill to use a UI? are you Fin serious?

Originally posted by farore

Originally posted by Horkathane

 - SWG The WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!

I dont post very often but the text in red is probably the biggest load of crap i have ever read. Skill to use a UI? are you Fin serious?

No, he's not serious.

If he was then Obraik would back him up and Jenus would be asking for proof that subscriptions were increasing.  :)

A broken UI is "working as intended" and is content in a MMO and constitutes game challenge.  Gotcha.

How's that working out for SWG?  Passed 200,000 subs again yet?  100,000?  50,000?

Nope.

Originally posted by Horkathane

Originally posted by salvaje

If you mean:

Does it still have only 9 static professions,
Since when has a game had professions that could be changed into others? Get over it the Skill system was a failure and introduced the most Henious unbalanced gameplay in history...mind shot / disease FTW!!!11!1!

Jedi still available on character creation,

So? Its a class and is inline with the Star Wars 1 - 3. Stop Identifying Jedi with Luke Invincible Sywalker and Darth death choke across video screen miles away Vader please.

no meaningfully unique skill templates,

LoL, there is more to a game than crunching skill points ftw

    I think most people like to crunch skillpoints/tallents and choose style how their character fights

Benny Hill movement,  no animations, Batman particle effects,

The Engine is 2003 and as we all know by a majority of the Game community, Gameplay Trumphs Graphics...you want graphics? go play Tabula and good luck with gameplay lol!

    Old engine is no excuse for the horrible animations or lack of them. The game used to have good animations

 horrid UI,

It takes skill to use the UI and once you L2P its not an issue

pseudo FPS by default,

Again, Skill

    Skill? The game has autotargeting or has that been removed?

lag despite few players due to a combat system that runs several times faster than the internet can handle,

That is not lag, thats an issue with the database thats going to be fixed in CH 8

crafted items still suck compared to looted,

Not True anymore, this was fixed by the collection system additions

etc, etc...

Ran outta propaganda eh'?

Then your answer is NO. 

Actually yes, the game is a heck of allot better and has a growing playerbase, right now galaxies just passed 100k players as of the first of the year.

It hasn't changed fundamentally from what we were forced to accept on 11/15/2005.  They've put some new coats of lipstick on it, but it's still the same pig.

Wrong Answer! In its current state the game is the best MMO out right now.

 About all that has changed is that it has even less subscribers than a year ago.

Yep, the subscription base has increased!

 

 - SWG The WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO

Originally posted by Horkathane

Originally posted by salvaje

If you mean:

Does it still have only 9 static professions,
Since when has a game had professions that could be changed into others? Get over it the Skill system was a failure and introduced the most Henious unbalanced gameplay in history...mind shot / disease FTW!!!11!1!

Jedi still available on character creation,

So? Its a class and is inline with the Star Wars 1 - 3. Stop Identifying Jedi with Luke Invincible Sywalker and Darth death choke across video screen miles away Vader please.

no meaningfully unique skill templates,

LoL, there is more to a game than crunching skill points ftw

Benny Hill movement,  no animations, Batman particle effects,

The Engine is 2003 and as we all know by a majority of the Game community, Gameplay Trumphs Graphics...you want graphics? go play Tabula and good luck with gameplay lol!

 horrid UI,

It takes skill to use the UI and once you L2P its not an issue

pseudo FPS by default,

Again, Skill

lag despite few players due to a combat system that runs several times faster than the internet can handle,

That is not lag, thats an issue with the database thats going to be fixed in CH 8

crafted items still suck compared to looted,

Not True anymore, this was fixed by the collection system additions

etc, etc...

Ran outta propaganda eh'?

Then your answer is NO. 

Actually yes, the game is a heck of allot better and has a growing playerbase, right now galaxies just passed 100k players as of the first of the year.

It hasn't changed fundamentally from what we were forced to accept on 11/15/2005.  They've put some new coats of lipstick on it, but it's still the same pig.

Wrong Answer! In its current state the game is the best MMO out right now.

 About all that has changed is that it has even less subscribers than a year ago.

Yep, the subscription base has increased!

 

 - SWG The WOW KILLER!!!!!!!!!!

Not familiar with SWG but it looks like SWG is one of the many victims of WoW. Really hope that one day developers will realize that they cannot fight against WoW, at least not with the weapons of WoW.

thread necro :)

Feb 2008 hehe ....

Originally posted by iZakaroN

 

Not familiar with SWG but it looks like SWG is one of the many victims of WoW. Really hope that one day developers will realize that they cannot fight against WoW, at least not with the weapons of WoW.

No, SWGs poor record isn't due to WoW, it is due to several horrible mistakes made by SOE and Lucas Arts.

Lucas wanted to allow all the kids who cried and complained because they wanted to be Jedi the ability to just make one from the start instead of playing the game and learning how to become a Jedi over time. That ticked off everyone that had become Jedi or was in the process of becoming Jedi.

They destroyed the Entertainer class and skills, destroyed the crafter class and skills, they destroyed the Animal handler class and skills, so most people choose to be a jedi or a bounty hunter in game

They tried to make the game as simple as Wow, when the Star Wars fanbase didn't want simple, they wanted complexity and diversity in therir characters. what they have now is all the "Star Wars Kids" playing the game, since all the mature Star wars fans left due to so many poorly made decisions.

It is almost like Lucas Arts and SOE wanted the game to be a failure

Originally posted by Soupgoblin

Originally posted by iZakaroN

 

Not familiar with SWG but it looks like SWG is one of the many victims of WoW. Really hope that one day developers will realize that they cannot fight against WoW, at least not with the weapons of WoW.

 

No, SWGs poor record isn't due to WoW, it is due to several horrible mistakes made by SOE and Lucas Arts.

Lucas wanted to allow all the kids who cried and complained because they wanted to be Jedi the ability to just make one from the start instead of playing the game and learning how to become a Jedi over time. That ticked off everyone that had become Jedi or was in the process of becoming Jedi.

They destroyed the Entertainer class and skills, destroyed the crafter class and skills, they destroyed the Animal handler class and skills, so most people choose to be a jedi or a bounty hunter in game

They tried to make the game as simple as Wow, when the Star Wars fanbase didn't want simple, they wanted complexity and diversity in therir characters. what they have now is all the "Star Wars Kids" playing the game, since all the mature Star wars fans left due to so many poorly made decisions.

It is almost like Lucas Arts and SOE wanted the game to be a failure

Entertainers are more useful and diverse than they ever were in the pre-cu or CU timeframes, it's not even close. Armorsmiths and Weaponsmiths make the best, loot drops do not even compare to what a player can craft. With the addittion to beast master beast skills are way more effective, diverse than during the pre-cu timeframe.
 

And since I am 47 years old and everyone in my guild te