Whether or not it will be Bioware or SOE or someone else..  don't make KOTOR online please!!!!

The setting would be bland sci-fi with jedis..

I think a large portion of players want to play in an environment with stormtroopers, where you can interact with Darth Vader, the Emperor and Skywalker, Leia etc. Also the galatic civil war is THE environment to be in..

Also if a new SWG comes out make sure to limit jedis. All sorts of difficult grinds are impossible to control. People would still do it. See the hologrind. And certainly don't have jedis as starting professions or alpha professions (you get after a certain level).. Make jedis either an upgrade that cost 100$ to play and 50 $ extra pr. month in subscription. And make them a little tougher so that they are interesting to encounter.

Alternatively make it completely random who will be allowed to make one. Make it so that X number (very low number here) of people become force aware every month. A random drawing of the active playerbase. And make it so, that this number can be controlled (set higher or lower) to control the jedi population.

Also don't have your usual class and level system... make it skillbased like before but make crafters parallel to the regular "combat" skills.. so you can be both..

Have you played any of Bioware's games man? Bioware is easily one of the greatest video game developers of all time. All of their games are critically acclaimed, and with my experience with their games i'd be happy to give them money up front right now for a preorder of their new mmo. And by the way Kotor Online is just a rumor, but it is likely, since Lucas Arts stated that a new Star Wars Online is in development. But if you haven't played any of bioware's games I suggest you play some and that would stop anyone including yourself from worrying about the game being crap. 

In my opinion the chance jedi stuff isn't going to work. Several people are going to complain about not being able to become a jedi  , because of bad luck . There were much more jedis in the Old Republic by the way man. So if half the game world is full of jedis it wouldn't matter, because kotor isn't based on the movies. Kotor is set in a time where a good number of jedis were alive and well. Of course jedis were still feared and weren't the majority, but they still were a decent population in Kotor. 

Originally posted by ThaneB

Have you played any of Bioware's games man? Bioware is easily one of the greatest video game developers of all time. All of their games are critically acclaimed, and with my experience with their games i'd be happy to give them money up front right now for a preorder of their new mmo. And by the way Kotor Online is just a rumor, but it is likely, since Lucas Arts stated that a new Star Wars Online is in development. But if you haven't played any of bioware's games I suggest you play some and that would stop anyone including yourself from worrying about the game being crap. 

In my opinion the chance jedi stuff isn't going to work. Several people are going to complain about not being able to become a jedi  , because of bad luck . There were much more jedis in the Old Republic by the way man. So if half the game world is full of jedis it wouldn't matter, because kotor isn't based on the movies. Kotor is set in a time where a good number of jedis were alive and well. Of course jedis were still feared and weren't the majority, but they still were a decent population in Kotor. 

Never said Bioware cant make a good game. I said dont make KOTOR online. It is a completely uninteresting timeperiod to me. And I think a lot of people prefer a new star wars online that takes place in the span of the movies. It is feasible to have jedis as something that spawns random. In fact originally they thought they had a system like that. But they should never have had the hologrind thing but have been selected on random the become force aware..

KOTOR is fine for a regular pc game but not mmo. It is not the "real" star wars. Sure if they make a decent mmo people would play it but it will not be real star wars without the struggle of the republic against the empire.

Let bioware do something else sci fi mmo and make a new star wars mmo that is REAL star wars, not just a silly attempt to cater to the jedi lovers

Also SWG had more players before anyone was jedis than after...     

Originally posted by Draccan

 

 

Never said Bioware cant make a good game. I said dont make KOTOR online. It is a completely uninteresting timeperiod to me. And I think a lot of people prefer a new star wars online that takes place in the span of the movies. It is feasible to have jedis as something that spawns random. In fact originally they thought they had a system like that. But they should never have had the hologrind thing but have been selected on random the become force aware..

KOTOR is fine for a regular pc game but not mmo. It is not the "real" star wars. Sure if they make a decent mmo people would play it but it will not be real star wars without the struggle of the republic against the empire.

Let bioware do something else sci fi mmo and make a new star wars mmo that is REAL star wars, not just a silly attempt to cater to the jedi lovers

Also SWG had more players before anyone was jedis than after...     

 

the star wars universe is more than just the "republic vs the empire..." and that statement doesn't make sense because the republic became the empire, its the rebels vs the empire.

that isn't the only time period in the SWU also.  jedis were EVERYWHERE before then, you saw in the 3rd one right where the emperor executed order 66!! dun dun dun! they killed off all the jedis.

also, there were wars BEFORE the galactic civil war. like the jedi civil war and the mandalorian wars that are talked about in the KOTOR games. Lucas signed and said ya you match the IP go ahead and make your game. its ALL real star wars. star wars does exist outside of the first 3 movies.

and please support your claims with more than your opinions.

Originally posted by project8six

 

Originally posted by Draccan

 

 

Never said Bioware cant make a good game. I said dont make KOTOR online. It is a completely uninteresting timeperiod to me. And I think a lot of people prefer a new star wars online that takes place in the span of the movies. It is feasible to have jedis as something that spawns random. In fact originally they thought they had a system like that. But they should never have had the hologrind thing but have been selected on random the become force aware..

KOTOR is fine for a regular pc game but not mmo. It is not the "real" star wars. Sure if they make a decent mmo people would play it but it will not be real star wars without the struggle of the republic against the empire.

Let bioware do something else sci fi mmo and make a new star wars mmo that is REAL star wars, not just a silly attempt to cater to the jedi lovers

Also SWG had more players before anyone was jedis than after...     

 

 

the star wars universe is more than just the "republic vs the empire..." and that statement doesn't make sense because the republic became the empire, its the rebels vs the empire.

that isn't the only time period in the SWU also.  jedis were EVERYWHERE before then, you saw in the 3rd one right where the emperor executed order 66!! dun dun dun! they killed off all the jedis.

also, there were wars BEFORE the galactic civil war. like the jedi civil war and the mandalorian wars that are talked about in the KOTOR games. Lucas signed and said ya you match the IP go ahead and make your game. its ALL real star wars. star wars does exist outside of the first 3 movies.

and please support your claims with more than your opinions.

what I said, which you dont (want to) understand is that a large portion of people, maybe even a large majority would rather have an mmo that is based on the time period of the movies.. I dont need to support anything I said more than I did.

If you are kotor, extended universe fan and think the mandalorian war or the jedi war is cool, so be it, but I really hope the next mmo will be about the galactic empire we know from the movies.. I think a lot of people will be dissappointed if there are no stormtroopers, tie fighters, no darth vader, no emperor... it has so MUCH potential..

KOTOR timeline is niche, the movies (and I count all six, not three like you mentioned) are much more interesting than some niche universe only a fraction knows about and that George Lucas only sanctions to later change his mind about those stories..

The one thing SOE did right was to place SWG in that period..

its still your opinion that you think people want to play the game around the movies.

mine would be that when you think of a star wars game you want to be a jedi. and to do this it doesn't go along with the movies because the emp killed all he could off.

either way everything is just rumors... and bioware has said they want to use a game that they can control the IP. its not unthinkable that some one else could make another SW MMO. i would play, played SWG pre/post NGE... and every single other star wars game that has come out in the past 8 years.

If it's Star Wars... it's Star Wars. 

If people need to be spoon-fed content via a movie, and don't check out the EU (extended universe), then they are missing A LOT.

KOTOR covers a lot of legacy, lore, history...

It all sets the stage for what is to come in the movies.

I think the issue now is that we haven't progressed in SWG.  The timeline hasn't shifted forward to post-Return of the Jedi.

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If you limit the number of Jedi and make them very powerful... you will have a customer base that loves the class and everyone will want one. 

Everyone else will try to make characters that can compete with Jedi.

Either way, the game will be about Jedi... from a PvP perspective.

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Also, the movies were about Jedi.  The major hook of this sci-fi series was 'the force' and anakin/luke becoming Jedi.

If you take out Jedi and/or the ability to become Jedi, then you remove a large following, imho.

Just make it an accomplishment to become one.  Not a 'omg I can be Luke' button. 

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The other reason to explore timeframes outside of the movies would be to offer a more open slate for developers to work with.  They are pigeon-holed when they develop within the movie-timeline. 

I'd rather have something a bit more open. 

To the OP, sounds like you fear change and the unknown ;).  The movies have been done to death and there is just SO MUCH in star wars both before and after the saga.  Personally, I would hope if there were a new SW mmo it would pick up AFTER the saga... here's why:

-The New Republic is on the rise while the Empire crumbles BUT there are still REMNANTS of the Empire, even some rogue Imperialists so stormtroopers and all that are still there

-The universe is in a mess, allowing MANY threats and other organizations like Bounty Hunters, pirates etc... while its also becoming more 'free' due to the Empire's loss of total control

-The mmo COULD make use of the famous characters because they're all rather prominent in the universe.  Leia is a huge politival leader, Han is a general in the new republic etc.

-Luke Skywalker searches the galaxy for those few who are Force potentials as he opens the Jedi Praxeum on Yavin IV to 'rebuild' the Jedi Order

-Simply so much goes on, they'd have content for years.... new wars, discoveries alliances etc... it would make for a brilliant SW mmo. 

 Nothing to fear but MMO/SW addiction!

i dont care when it takes place.....as long as its similar to the original swg

this is why kotor would be the perfect star wars mmo because of all the jedi. everyone wants to be a jedi why not make it to where there were a bunch of them?

An original Star Wars setting that doesn't interact with the movie or take place in the time period is what should have been made in the first place. Freedom of Creativity would make a SW game explode with awesomeness. Bioware would be the only people able to pull it off without a hitch if you ask me. :)

KOTOR, fine. Star Wars is a Universe full of storys and directions to take. My version would originate from Dex's Diner, or some other Cantinas where travelers trade stories, based on current events to legends. 

Dex's Diner ref.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/dexsdiner/index.html

I think a trip to Kamino would be interesting, so long as you behaved yourself. Peruse their arsenal of weapons they are so proud to sell to the most capable of Bounty Hunters. 

The sheer multitude of ships is what is missing. Salvaging wreckage and building customized ships out of the ashes of the old ones would keep my interest.

As for a potential overpopulation of Jedi's so what? Its a cliche, and if we could ask a citizen of Coruscant, they'd probably agree, "those Jedi are a weird bunch".  Choose to be who you want to be.