Originally posted by DarthMaulUK

He can't give you numbers because the whole genre just doesn't give out this kind of data. Its not in the public domain. And I have said time and time again who cares about the numbers? Just because Galaxies doesn't have 5million + playing like warcraft and just because it's no where near the 300k playing at launch - who cares?! WHO CARES?!

Since Galaxies launched back in 2003, so many more MMOs have come to the market and you expect decline after this period of time. I really am getting sick to death of people who clearly don't play the game and just login and post crap, as they have nothing better to do. 

The game has never been more fun! Get over it!

The genre has and does promote their active user/subscriber base.  Wether it be EVE Online which shows their active concurent user base, in real time, or Second Life that puts out frequent press releases regarding theirs.  Then we have World of Warcraft which obviously promotes their subscriber numbers.  Fact is there is a majority of developer/publishers that DO publicize their subscription numbers.

Don't get upset UK, it's ok.  SWG has suffered from a plethora of set backs due to poor design and development through SOE's staff.  When you look at the number crunching ways of Lucas Arts and their marketing schemes you'll see how the demise was furthered along. 

We all enjoyed the game and some of us still try to maintain that enjoyment.  I'm glad you like it, but keep in mind that there's a left to every right.  When marketing tells the sbscribing fan base to take a hike 'cs they believe they can get more then they'll lose, how can complatency be warranted? 

SWG has improved over the last 14 months.  Yet it's ignorant to not see how something as stripped down and overly simplified as the "new game enhancemnets" has only to improve; it doesn't get any worse!

EVE Online launched in 2003.  Look at their subscriptions...

p.s. keep up the cool SWG site!

Originally posted by Netzz

Wow, I just noticed they moved this to the veteran refuge.

That's kinda funny since it's current sub numbers, and I really only posted cause I saw the 5 page thread about Greypawns comments on the SOE boards.

Oh well, I guess they figure anyone who would  try and talk about sub numbers, must be disgruntled vet lol. 

Therefore, I would have moved you to general discussion, myself. As your thread does not have anything legitimate to do with the actual current numbers, and is also non-vet related in nature.

Hahah this UK guy makes me laugh.

Do us a favor and stop posting here, go play that AWESOME!! game of yours.

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Originally posted by Maggotscream
Hahah this UK guy makes me laugh.
Do us a favor and stop posting here, go play that AWESOME!! game of yours.

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To work for SOE or LEC, or have positions like that requires drinking of the kool-aid provided by "Smed" Jones.

Originally posted by Obraik

Heh, was waiting for someone to play the "I have a friend who works at SOE" card to be played :D

/yawn

/yawn

Originally posted by DarthMaulUK

He can't give you numbers because the whole genre just doesn't give out this kind of data. Its not in the public domain. And I have said time and time again who cares about the numbers? Just because Galaxies doesn't have 5million + playing like warcraft and just because it's no where near the 300k playing at launch - who cares?! WHO CARES?!

Since Galaxies launched back in 2003, so many more MMOs have come to the market and you expect decline after this period of time. I really am getting sick to death of people who clearly don't play the game and just login and post crap, as they have nothing better to do. 

The game has never been more fun! Get over it!

So lets be clear here.... SOE has talked about it's overall subs recently, and 2 companies with more subs then SOE talk about it... oh, and Linden too.... so it seems that subs are talked about, unless they make your game look bad...

85k seems realistic enough to me.    May or may not include station pass people with SWG accounts.   But still the source is just "a guy on the net who claims to know someone"    Its no more legit or reliable than any other source out there.

5k increase in a month would be nice progress for a dying 4 year old game that went through NGE.   5k doesn't sound like much but for $15 a month each x 5k x 12 months amounts to $900k extra a year.    Any increase at this point is probably considered a good job.

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Originally posted by jerosen
85k seems realistic enough to me. May or may not include station pass people with SWG accounts. But still the source is just "a guy on the net who claims to know someone" Its no more legit or reliable than any other source out there.
5k increase in a month would be nice progress for a dying 4 year old game that went through NGE. 5k doesn't sound like much but for $15 a month each x 5k x 12 months amounts to $900k extra a year. Any increase at this point is probably considered a good job.

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85K is realistic if you count the trials that the credit farmers (and even current players) are exploiting.

But that is fool's gold if you want actual revenue generating subs.

i would say around 60k, we have definitely seen a surge on Valcyn since chapter 5 came out. But alot of it has to do with the space community.

And yes, my number is just a generalization based on my server and the every so often heavy loads on some other servers, but i cannot honestly say what other servers pops are like

Originally posted by Netzz
I KNOW FOR A FACT, because a longtime childhood friend of mine works at SOE and recieves weekly reports on subsription numbers, that subs were at 80k a month ago, have gone up to 85k in the last few weeks,

My question is, what is this number, Minus Station passes?  lol

One more thing he told me is that SOE has offciaily put this game into "maintenance mode" which means it is running on a skeleton crew of devs, that are only working on bugs, and there are NO PLANS FOR ANY FUTURE EXPANSIONS. Ever.

This was actually announced when NGE went live. There would be no new expansions till they worked out the Bugs of NGE and have all a stable game.

 

Say what you will, laugh at my source...

actually these days with SWG that is more crediable then a dev pots. It was the cousin's sisters, best friends dad, that works with a guy, that talked to his buddy in a bar, that has a uncle who is a night janitor for SOE and cleaned up the room that NGE was made in and told us about it 3 months before it came out and none of us, including me believed that guy and he was dead on 100% right.

 

AND, one more thing he said is, 'it's common knowledge here in Austin, that Rich Vogel has been working on a new Star Wars MMO for Bioware for the last year".

Yes that is true and has been common knowledge that Vogel is Working for BIOWARE on there new MMORPG, its been posted on the BIOWARE website for the last 2 years, I recently linked that info here on these forums.

THO I feel the need to Point out that Bioware has never said it has a liceanse to make a Star wars Game, It is known (but unoffically announced) they do have liceanse from LA , but that is a broad area of intellectual properties that could possibly MMO titles.

I persoanlly Hope its true I want very much to see a MMO by bioware and a SW bioware project again I love KOTOR  and very much want to see BIOWARE do KOTOR-MMO, but none of it been said or announced yet that I know of. only speculation and rumor and hopes.           

Originally posted by Obraik

Heh, was waiting for someone to play the "I have a friend who works at SOE" card to be played :D

/yawn

Originally posted by LovrNoFightr

Originally posted by Obraik

Heh, was waiting for someone to play the "I have a friend who works at SOE" card to be played :D

/yawn

Since the NGE is doing so brilliant, why do you even waste energy on commenting at all? I'm sure you wouldn't be worried about "false rumours" like this since NGE is the best thing that's happened since sliced bread. Unless...... you know it could very well be the truth about the game? Thought so...

Whats really funny is they come here and act like telling us to get over it is going to somehow change our mind, after 2 years, were still mad and want our old game back. After having paid hundreds, even thousands of real dollars and 2 - 3 years of our free time anywher efrom 4 hours to 16 ( yes I knew some fanatics)

If we havent got over it , one more NGE loving nub telling us wont suddenly break our will and make us all come running back .

LOL!!!!

but its funny ... its like.. a 10 year old explaining to me how good the new Metallica CD is, when they never even heard of Ride the lightning... and think Load was there first CD...