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Stradden  11/15/06 11:20:14 AM

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Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

Cheers,
Jon Wood
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MMORPG.com

ShadowLords  11/15/06 1:07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.

 
Xcathdra  11/15/06 5:58:38 PM

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Originally posted by ShadowLords

Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.


/QFE.... I understand this place is a private forum and we are grateful for allowing us to express our discontent with SOE/LEC... i have to agree your enforcement is one sided, even on this side of the forum you guys split. We accepted the fact you split the forums for whatever reason you had. We posted in the refugee forum, and you guys were aware of our feelings. We stayed away from the current player side... Yet you guys continue to dispence unhanded bans and what not. If we are not welcome here then jsut say so, and we shall move on. If you are doing this because of advertising dollars, then say that and we will move on. Dont split the forums, post the rules, and then only enforce them on this side of the line.

If I wanted that form of treatment I would go post on the SOE forums... I expect it from them.. not from you guys..

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Having access to a massive fan base of said IP - Even more Billons...
Singly handedly alienating them due to stupidity - Priceless.

Obraik  11/15/06 7:29:31 PM

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Originally posted by ShadowLords

Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.


Firstly, there's not many people here on these forums posting that play or support the current game.  Very rarely do I see those that do support it (myself included) outright call people names.  Please show me the posts where you see me or others pre-cu supporters morons, retards, kiddies, sucking at life, losers, and I could go on with the list if you really want ;)  THAT is what Stradden is talking about.

iskareot  11/15/06 9:10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by ShadowLords

Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.


Firstly, there's not many people here on these forums posting that play or support the current game.  Very rarely do I see those that do support it (myself included) outright call people names.  Please show me the posts where you see me or others pre-cu supporters morons, retards, kiddies, sucking at life, losers, and I could go on with the list if you really want ;)  THAT is what Stradden is talking about.

One must use common sense to know the difference though.

For instance, Nancy McNtyre thinking that people did not need to read in the pre-NGE era could be considered a insult as such.   In fact I do consider it just that.   They made the NGE without this issue and made sure that people did not need to read as much so does this insult the current NGE playerbase?

I think it does.. but hey, this is just one example of what is considered a insult to some is considered a great thing to others.    My 7 year old does not like to read, however he does not like the NGE either.. so who knows lol.

Insults are somthing that each person sees different.   No two ways about it... I find the entire game right now a insult to gamers all over....lol so maybe the whole game should just be considered one big giant ball of hate and failure lol.

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Obraik  11/15/06 9:19:39 PM

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Originally posted by iskareot

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by ShadowLords

Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.


Firstly, there's not many people here on these forums posting that play or support the current game.  Very rarely do I see those that do support it (myself included) outright call people names.  Please show me the posts where you see me or others pre-cu supporters morons, retards, kiddies, sucking at life, losers, and I could go on with the list if you really want ;)  THAT is what Stradden is talking about.

One must use common sense to know the difference though.

For instance, Nancy McNtyre thinking that people did not need to read in the pre-NGE era could be considered a insult as such.   In fact I do consider it just that.   They made the NGE without this issue and made sure that people did not need to read as much so does this insult the current NGE playerbase?

I think it does.. but hey, this is just one example of what is considered a insult to some is considered a great thing to others.    My 7 year old does not like to read, however he does not like the NGE either.. so who knows lol.

Insults are somthing that each person sees different.   No two ways about it... I find the entire game right now a insult to gamers all over....lol so maybe the whole game should just be considered one big giant ball of hate and failure lol.


No matter what way you put it, words such as moron and retard are insults.

Unagi  11/15/06 9:24:29 PM

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Samuraisword  11/16/06 1:09:10 AM

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Stradden you don't need to tell us the difference between calling someone an idiot and calling what someone says idiotic. We know the difference, it's your moderator staff that seems to be clueless in this regard.

I have reported people for calling someone an idiot before and NOTHING was done. The post wasn't deleted or edited and a week later I still could not report it again because the message said "this post has been reported already". TRAIN YOUR STAFF PROPERLY ON THESE RULES!

The flip side is that we don't expect to get posts deleted for calling someone's views idiotic which does happen. Maybe a little personal responsibility from the moderators like including their real name in the email they send us and allowing us to reply to that email would resolve some of these issues.

It's obvious that part of the problem is pro NGE players are trolling in the Refuge forum. Why is this? You split the forums for a reason. What was the purpose? Why don't you tell all the Obraiks to stay out? They have their own special forum to play in.

ghettochilde  11/16/06 3:23:04 AM

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Originally posted by Stradden 


DO NOT make it a personal issue.




  Are you kidding me?

  In case you haven't figured this out yet, this is a very personal issue for a lot of us.

  We would love to have a civilized discussion about the pre-NGE game, our frustrations with NGE/SOE/LA, our hopes for the future, etc.  In fact, many of us have also done so on other boards in other forums.  Some of us would like to continue to do so here.  But what would you do in our place?

What would you do if (for example) your favorite TV show was cancelled.  And you were talking to a friend, who also liked that show, about the possiblity that it would be coming back.  Then I walked over to where you were talking, clear across the room.  I overheard what you were saying and, disliking that show because i preferred the one they put in its timeslot, said "Excuse me, but that show was really, really stupid, and its never coming back, EVER, so just get over it.  I don't know why you dont just watch this new show - anyone can see its 1000 times better than that old piece of crap was."

What would you do then?

 Well, unless "your ideas are idiotic" (that better?) you would tell me to go you-know-what somewhere really uncomfortable (like the back of a volkswagon).

  Asking us not to take it personal when someone tries to tell us we're wrong on this issue is basically the same as asking us not to post here.  If that's what your saying, by all means just say it.  There are other places to go.  Your site provides a lot of good content besides the forums and im sure some of the Vets will still use it for that and for the other games' forums.  But do not pretend to be unbiased - or worse, pretend to "understand" and "support" us, then proceed to let others kick us while we are down, and then ban us when we try to defend ourselves.  We have been treated like crap, and been told our opinions don't matter, for a year now.  We spoke with our feet a year ago, and we will do it again here, if that's what you wish.

 

 
iskareot  11/16/06 7:58:55 AM

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Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by iskareot

Originally posted by Obraik

Originally posted by ShadowLords

Originally posted by Stradden
Ok, some people currently using this forum seem to need a reminder about of RoC. I have noticed a disturbing number of threads that attack other people. THIS IS STRICTLY AGAINST OUR RULES. You can not come in here and talk about "Stupid NGE people". It's ok to call someone's opinion idiodic, but it's not ok to call someone an idiot.

People who disagree with you are just as entitled to their opinions as you are, and raking them over the coals in these forums is not going to be tolerated.

If you want to talk about the NGE and how much you dislike it. Fine, but we don't need 1,000 threads on the subject. Frankly, it's been a year. If you're still upset about it, I don't blame you and I support you in that. Your anger does not give you the right to flame others. This is not an "open forum for hate".  If you want to discuss the old game here, do so. If you want to express your displeasure over the changes, do so. DO NOT make it a personal issue. DO NOT berate others.

All that we are asking from you is that you post in a civilized manner.

I hope this clears things up for you.

Cheers
Jon Wood

This entire post seems one sided. You must be saying that anti-NGE people have to take the flaming, beratement, and personal attacks from the proNGE people.

It seems pretty silly that you have to post something like this in the "Refugee" forum regarding the treatment of proNGE people. Maybe the problem isn't the antiNGE'rs or the former SWG players. Maybe just maybe the problem is with some of the proNGErs posting in the "Refugee" forum because they don't like what they are reading ... even if it is the truth.


Firstly, there's not many people here on these forums posting that play or support the current game.  Very rarely do I see those that do support it (myself included) outright call people names.  Please show me the posts where you see me or others pre-cu supporters morons, retards, kiddies, sucking at life, losers, and I could go on with the list if you really want ;)  THAT is what Stradden is talking about.

One must use common sense to know the difference though.

For instance, Nancy McNtyre thinking that people did not need to read in the pre-NGE era could be considered a insult as such.   In fact I do consider it just that.   They made the NGE without this issue and made sure that people did not need