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PlanetSide 2 Forum » General Discussion » How infested is PS2 with hackers?

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  Rhoklaw

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OP  12/11/12 9:04:39 PM#61
I think the double XP weekend was a good choice for SOE in rounding up cheaters early. Cause now that the double XP weekend is over, I rarely have any issues with questionable players. Except for maybe a couple TR who seem to be using ESP ( radar ) or aimbots.

  Mtibbs1989

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12/11/12 9:25:02 PM#62
Originally posted by DMKano

Hacker is not the right term - as that would mean a person with their own code an d skills hacking the game. There is a minuscule number of hackers.

 

however if you are talking about how many players use 3rd party tools to cheat in game - a fair amount, more than is apparent as folks who use aim cheats and are not blatant about it are very hard to catch by SoE, as well as other players. 

 It's questionable how you define the way they cheat, if it's based off of the player abusing their ability to cause the delay or lag on their end with no programs attached. That's technically not hacking nor using a 3rd party program. It's also harder to remove a player abusing the ability of doing this. Mainly because they could just have a "bad connection".

 However, using a 3rd party program to bypass anti-hacks and then use an aimbot, teleport, fly, increase speed, noclipping, etc., requires the person to inject the .dll files or packets into the game and if they're doing that to cheat that would fall under the term for hacking. Regardless of whether or not they're the person who programmed the cheat. If they are using it they are indeed hacking.

 Of course there's also the ability to exploit bugs. Which again doesn't fall under the catagory of "hacking" it's just exploiting the games flaws and is considered cheating.

 Regardless, all of these things are against most, if not all TOS/EULA's and are considered cheating.

 


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  bingbongbros

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12/11/12 10:46:14 PM#63

My experience:

 

I never play fps's I think they are terrible, just my opinion.  But I enjoy SoE games and wanted to give it a shot since it is f2p.  I download and install it and create my soldier.  I listen to the intro and drop down into the world from space or whatever.

 

The second, I mean literally the SECOND my feet hit the ground, I died from a player.  So I thought oh geeze I landed next to an enemy player hah! Bad luck for me!

 

So I redeploy somewhere else that looks safer on the map a little ways away.  I land, still alive. Phew!

 

I sprint behind a big boulder to hide while I gain my bearings.  Then BOOM! instantly dead again by the same guy.  Strange thing is I checked high and low around me and I was completely alone...

 

So yeah, the game is pretty infested with hackers as far as I have seen.

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  Mtibbs1989

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12/12/12 10:01:32 AM#64
Originally posted by bingbongbros

My experience:

 

I never play fps's I think they are terrible, just my opinion.  But I enjoy SoE games and wanted to give it a shot since it is f2p.  I download and install it and create my soldier.  I listen to the intro and drop down into the world from space or whatever.

 

The second, I mean literally the SECOND my feet hit the ground, I died from a player.  So I thought oh geeze I landed next to an enemy player hah! Bad luck for me!

 

So I redeploy somewhere else that looks safer on the map a little ways away.  I land, still alive. Phew!

 

I sprint behind a big boulder to hide while I gain my bearings.  Then BOOM! instantly dead again by the same guy.  Strange thing is I checked high and low around me and I was completely alone...

 

So yeah, the game is pretty infested with hackers as far as I have seen.

Yeah, PS2 will die quickly due to the hackers, and there's nothing that SOE will do so long as they don't press charges against the players who are cheating. Unfortunately it's "too much work" for them to keep their game user friendly. Even though it's completely illegal in the United States to hack. Remember, they're not interested in you, only your money and they don't want to have to spend a dime of it to allow you to have fun. So, the hackers will stay and they'll give them a little kick in the butt every so often. Instead of actually banning and sueing these cheaters.


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  GrayImpact

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12/12/12 10:04:41 AM#65
Played 105 hours, seen 3 hackers, One vanu speedhacker ( speed hackers are the most obvious ) and two Infiltrators/snipers that remained invisible and kept shooting over and over, guess that maybe a bug though? who knows.
  Mtibbs1989

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12/12/12 10:07:51 AM#66
Originally posted by Agoden
Played 105 hours, seen 3 hackers, One vanu speedhacker ( speed hackers are the most obvious ) and two Infiltrators/snipers that remained invisible and kept shooting over and over, guess that maybe a bug though? who knows.

Yeah, I played in the first 24 hours and was unlucky enough to find 13 or so. It's fine though, shooting games aren't getting any better and PS2 is no exception. I personally think this genre is dying regardless of the hacking dillema.


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  ShakyMo

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12/12/12 10:10:15 AM#67
I saw one last night, cloak like an Infiltrator but carrying a rocket launcher.

Still seen more hacks in gw2, wow, war etc. Though
  Mtibbs1989

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12/12/12 11:00:28 AM#68
Originally posted by ShakyMo
I saw one last night, cloak like an Infiltrator but carrying a rocket launcher.

Still seen more hacks in gw2, wow, war etc. Though

It's only going to get worse for PS2, it's easier to cheat in a shooter than a RPG.


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  ShakyMo

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12/12/12 11:22:56 AM#69
How?

Don't see it, surely its easier to cheat with tab target with macro keyboards, queueing commands to exploit gcd so they hit at same time for big burst etc.

Must be, because I've encountered more cheats in tab Target games than first person shooters (excepting rates exploiters in early valve games)
  ShakyMo

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12/12/12 11:25:12 AM#70
Not forgetting Item duped, glitching pve bosses to gear farm, teleport / esp / speed hacks which work with both. The only hack I see of being useful in a fps but not a tab Target is aim bots.
  Mtibbs1989

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12/12/12 12:36:56 PM#71
Originally posted by ShakyMo
How?

Don't see it, surely its easier to cheat with tab target with macro keyboards, queueing commands to exploit gcd so they hit at same time for big burst etc.

Must be, because I've encountered more cheats in tab Target games than first person shooters (excepting rates exploiters in early valve games)

Many mmo's aren't against the use of macro keyboards. It's only when you use it to BOT when it becomes against the TOS/EULA. There are even rpgs that allow botting as well.

 As for more cheats in tab target games, I don't see them as much as you're saying, and I'm playing one of the biggest hacked games right now, which is Maplestory and I still don't see as many hackers in it as I do while playing Shooters.


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  timeraider

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12/13/12 8:10:36 AM#72
83 hours so far, havent seen an hacker yet.
  Siveria

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12/13/12 8:17:02 AM#73
Like any f2p online title, especally since its a fps, I bet about 75-80% of the playerbase is probally using a aimbot of some kind, since its not hard to find fi you just try to look. These types of games are always infested with cheaters, its why I never play them, its no fun playing against people using a program that gives them perfect aim.

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  Gruug

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12/13/12 9:43:12 AM#74

Again, hysteria more then anything else running rampant amongst the masses. Here's a little tid-bit from our Outfits Ops Night. Near the end of our OP we decided to do a Gal drop on Terwich Tech Plant. We had 3 Gals with between 10 and 12 Outfit members per Gal. We decided to all drop on the large flat roof (some call it a landing pad..not sure it is). We drop down, put up a spawn beacon far from the elevator and try to get inside. We get wiped but pretty normal stuff for as many people the other side had guarding the elevator.

Anyway, the meat of the story. One member spawns in after dying on the spawn beacon. He drops just to the north of that same pad just enough that he lands on the slanted side wall....a place I have dropped to a couple of times myself. He then proceeds to shoot an enemy player on the ground...not once but three times. Each time time this player came the exact same way. Just after that third death, my team mate gets a /tell that read something like this "Enjoy your ban". Obviously, he thought that my team mate was somehow hacking. He failed to think that there could be someone above him. He failed to think in 3D rather then 2D. He just could not grasp the concept that someone out played him. So, he called my team mate a hacker and reported him. His right and if he really thought so, more power to him.

Note: I happened to see some of this from a point I drop podded into just above my team mate. No, no wall hacks, no cheats, no aimbot. He just outplayed the other guy.

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  DoomsDay01

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12/13/12 9:53:20 PM#75
My issue is that I am getting killed 100-200 meters away from people that are shooting chainguns and hit hit hit dead. rinse repeat, over and over again. Happens every night. I am dodging, weaving, hit hit hit dead. Its not like I am even running at them, running sidewys and zigzaging, hit hit hit dead. That is NOT a weapon for medium to long range, the chainguns are short range yet hit hit hit dead. Its not just chainguns either, It is absolutely clear that it is very bad on my server. I am not a stranger to fps games, I have played them all my life and do well in every single one of them. For weapons that are not that accurate, you can not tell me that they can hit with such accuracy every single time from that distance away using a carbine or chaingun. I know there are still many performance issues with the game so I know its not completely aimbot central but they are not hard to spot at all, especially if there are a lot of targets around.
  IMPYRE

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Yes, I have a question. When did you turn into a nutbar?

12/13/12 10:03:45 PM#76

 

Just a thought..

Why not just make the game B2P, I know I will possibly hear, are you crazy from some players, but I would pay 1 initial price @ 1st. I look at it as a game investment for the fun I am having.

Then most of the players will think about using a hack program on a game they just purchased.

  sgtalon

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12/14/12 6:59:05 AM#77
Originally posted by Siveria
Like any f2p online title, especally since its a fps, I bet about 75-80% of the playerbase is probally using a aimbot of some kind, since its not hard to find fi you just try to look. These types of games are always infested with cheaters, its why I never play them, its no fun playing against people using a program that gives them perfect aim.

75-80%? You are crazy.

 

The typical number of hackers in a Current - Popular FPS is less that 15%. 

 

I have been playing the game since June. I know what the game feels like with no hackers. I also know what it is now. And i think that the real number of hackers in PS2 is in the range of 5%-10% or less. 

I have witnessed blatant hackers a couple times in the last few weeks. The others that might have been were not significantly better than me. So if a crappy player gets a hack that makes it easier to spot me like a wall hack or a skin thing, they probably suck anyways and it doesn't help them.

 

Just makes the game more of a challenge. Bring it on!

  sgtalon

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12/14/12 7:05:44 AM#78

Hey Doom,

 

I am not sure about that one. I don't have the Chaingun now, but I did in Beta and i noticed that if you are very easy on the trigger and only fire short bursts the Chaingun can be quite accurate. I was able to get kills from pretty far away with some patience.

 

I was just in a fight on the hill up to TI Alloys last night and i was killing snipers in the rocks from almost at Ceres. Probably 200m+ with my Medic TRV. I am pretty sure someone was thinking I was a hacker because i kept swinging around to their flank and killing them.

 

If you had been talking about a Shotgun or Pistol i would ahve to agree that something is suspicious but not so sure with the Chaingun.

  bcbully

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12/14/12 7:11:51 AM#79

I have days /played. I THINK I've seen two. 

 

It's no where near the amount as AION, or GW2. PS2 probably has 2-3% the hackers those other games have.

When I eat chocolate chip pie it just doesn't feel like chocolate chip cookies. The texture, the consistency, it's just not the same and this is disappointing.

  zomard100

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12/14/12 7:15:34 AM#80
Originally posted by Rhoklaw

I haven't played the game enough to know what weapons do what for all 3 sides, but as a VS player, I'm using the most damage heavy sniper rifle and I never get a 1 shot kill unless its BR4 or lower. I'm BR15 now and I'm getting 1 shot sniped A LOT and I know people are not headshot experts this much.

I've also run into a group of TR who all seem to be very well coordinated but thats different. Teamspeak and Ventrillo is almost as good as having ESP if people are calling out targets. So yes, it's hard to tell who is hacking and who just has a really good group of players working well together.

When it comes to FPS, I'm usually sitting around 1.0 K/D ratio and I consider that decent. When I see people getting upwards of 5+ K/D ratio, thats when I begin to question their authenticity. I'm not saying they are aimbotting, but having hacks like ESP is enough to achieve initiative for an easy kill.

Well you are wrong with that. Most of kids will snipe you with headshot and it is very rare  they miss you. It is hard for older mmorpg players to fight in mmofps, you don't have good  eye and reflexes like kids. If you are over 30 and you spend most of the time playing games like, wow,tor,gw you really don't stand a chance against young fps players. Thats why most of the time old guys think they fight against hackers in mmofps. Yes sure some of them are always there but not in so big numbers

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