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PlanetSide 2 Forum » General Discussion » Such a great game, but to many hackers.

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  bcbully

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1/16/14 10:49:57 AM#21
Originally posted by Hatefull

Been playing PS2 (off and on I admit) since Tech test and have seen maybe 2 legitimate hackers.

We all know the reason people scream hacker. Very seldom is it a verifiable reason. Oh the two hackers I did witness, lasted about ten minutes, one less than 2 minutes. SOE takes care of hackers and they are in no way as rampant as you are trying to say here.

At the Risk of insulting you, which is not my intent, you have not been playing the game long enough to understand how it works, the hologram thing sounds like an Infil to me. Anyway, get better at the game before you come here and try to convince people it is full of hackers. Just advice, take it or leave it.

Alpha squad here. I've only seen 2-3 maybe, in the past year and a half. Now, I hear some one say "that guys a hacker!" atleast twice a week.  Most the time it's the same 2 or 3 guys saying it lol. 

 

Some people are reeealy good and sometimes people get lucky. I think this accounts for 99% of alleged hackers.

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  Woopin

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1/16/14 11:04:03 AM#22

Been playing since Tech test and to be honest there is not as many hackers as you make out. I have seen a total of 6 hackers in 1 year playing and all 6 where removed from the game 24 hours after reporting. The game is not as bad as you make out I am not sure if it is the server you are playing on but Mattherson I have never really seen that many hackers at all. Yeah sometimes I die to questionable things but after checking stats on the person in question they usually have terrible stats making it more like they just got lucky. 

In short SOE are pretty active against the hackers and they do try and prevent it. This is a MMOFPS and you will get people troll hacking but on the server I am on it is not very often you see this at all. For me there is nothing more rewarding than killing someone trying to ruin others experience of the game. 

The best thing to do is /report ignore them do not send them tells and move to another location. If it is really as bad as you make out then move servers to one that has less trolls hacking the game. 

  rojoArcueid

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1/16/14 11:04:56 AM#23
Originally posted by Wicoa
I dont find that many hackers are in the game really. Besides theres nothing one hacker can do against a full platoon outfit so why dont you join an outfit and keelzor?

that might be the case in Planetside 2. That reminds me the hackers in Max Payne 3 multiplayer... a few  people (me included)  with shotguns and dual pistols unleashing hell on one guy and his health bar didnt even move and he one shot everyone with a single pistol.

 

EDIT: edited to say that after seeing that many times in many matches i uninstalled and have regretted buying anything with multiplayer on PC coming from Rockstar.

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  Woopin

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1/16/14 11:15:48 AM#24
Originally posted by Burntvet

SOE, being the incompetents they are, still program games (and poorly) like it is 1999 and EQ is king.

On top of the many exploits, serious imbalances, and "oversights" found in most SOE games (do they even do QA testing before launch?), they put WAY, WAY too much stuff client side, because you could do that in 1999, before the birth of the "script kiddie" phenomenon and get away with it.

But guess what? It ain't 1999 anymore and there are dozens of client side hacks available for PS2 (do a 10 second google search) made all too easy by SOE itself. Other companies put most of the critical calculations server side, but not SOE!

Plus, SOE, by their messed up F2P business model, give people EVERY INCENTIVE to cheat.

The OP assumes it is just "low lifes" that cheat in PS2, but the fact is the more people you kill in game, the less real money you have to spend on things, so people don't just cheat for the fun of cheating, they do it to save money!

 

SOE is incompetent on many levels, and what you are seeing here is simply a reflection of that.

 

There is no current tech to make it server side I am glad you do not work for SOE the game would be unplayable if hit detection and everything else was server sided. And you think F2P is done wrong? Go play some of the Asian MMO's where you spend close to $1000 for a PvP weapon that 1 shots people while the free players have to hit the person for 2 mins to take them down then come back here and complain about the F2P model. 

 

And by the way Mr do a 10 second google search to find hacks. DC comes up first. Guess what they discontinued it because SOE detected it and mass banned all people with the client. 

Next one that comes up is AA - Guess what it got discontinued also same reason mass detection and not enough clients paying to hack and the fact these small patches SOE was throwing out made the person getting the values had to spend too much time remaking the hack. 

There is 3 others that are discontinued also for other reasons. 

 

There is currently 2 that are supposed to be working but are detected due to something SOE added last patch. One of them uses custom drivers to hide the hack but there is an issue with their driver set that someone tipped SOE off about making that also detected and enabled last patch.

 

Do your research before you post. I would like to know these imbalances you talk about as my K/D on all 3 factions is pretty consistent.

  Woopin

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1/16/14 11:22:56 AM#25
Originally posted by Warjin
Originally posted by Hatefull

 

Also this one Sniper mind you, took 4 hits direct hits from my rocket launcher and took no damage, i get killed by this dude after i run out of ammo he stealths up to me and knifes me with one hit, 

That is a Sync issue that SOE does need to fix. It is not a hack the server does it to some outfit members sometimes. When someone is out of sync they can not shoot people dead they have to knife to kill. Most people actually notice they are out of sync and redeploy so that they do not get a bad name from it. Lucky it is a rare issue but either way does need to be fixed.

  Pilnkplonk

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1/16/14 1:12:59 PM#26
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  TeknoBug

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1/22/14 5:56:01 AM#27

Between having toons on Connery, Mattherson, Waterson and Miller I think Mattherson has the worst amount of hackers. Everytime an alert comes up there's always 1 or 2 people that completely obliterate everyone with a stupid AV turret or some BS like that, which is why I don't bother with alerts let alone Mattherson anymore. Mattherson has been a garbage server for a long time now, I regret having my main toon on there, been waiting for transfer tokens since forever to get the hell off there.


There has been reports of it happening on Connery too but I guess I'm lucky not to be victim of it.


  TeknoBug

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1/22/14 5:59:12 AM#28


Originally posted by Woopin

Originally posted by Warjin

Originally posted by Hatefull  
Also this one Sniper mind you, took 4 hits direct hits from my rocket launcher and took no damage, i get killed by this dude after i run out of ammo he stealths up to me and knifes me with one hit, 
That is a Sync issue that SOE does need to fix. It is not a hack the server does it to some outfit members sometimes. When someone is out of sync they can not shoot people dead they have to knife to kill. Most people actually notice they are out of sync and redeploy so that they do not get a bad name from it. Lucky it is a rare issue but either way does need to be fixed.


Just yesterday I sneaked up onto the bridge where VS was attacking our base and saw their AMS, ran up to it and shot down several people with a silenced SMG but then there was this guy standing there accessing the AMS terminal and I shot a whole clip into him and he flinched but didn't die or anything, then he ran off and I shot someone else and he died normally, didn't get to see who that player I couldn't kill was though. lol


  wildclaw

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1/27/14 4:15:37 AM#29
Originally posted by TeknoBug

 

Just yesterday I sneaked up onto the bridge where VS was attacking our base and saw their AMS, ran up to it and shot down several people with a silenced SMG but then there was this guy standing there accessing the AMS terminal and I shot a whole clip into him and he flinched but didn't die or anything, then he ran off and I shot someone else and he died normally, didn't get to see who that player I couldn't kill was though. lol

He wasn't accessing the AMS terminal, he was respawning, Players are immune to damage while they are still in the respawning process. (mostly apparent when someone is still watching the loading screen)

  Hatefull

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1/27/14 5:12:57 AM#30

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  Shadanwolf

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1/27/14 7:53:23 AM#31
Hacking is a bad problem with the game....... but only one of many many  problems including game design,features,and management .
  DMKano

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1/27/14 8:19:25 AM#32
Originally posted by Woopin
Originally posted by Burntvet

SOE, being the incompetents they are, still program games (and poorly) like it is 1999 and EQ is king.

On top of the many exploits, serious imbalances, and "oversights" found in most SOE games (do they even do QA testing before launch?), they put WAY, WAY too much stuff client side, because you could do that in 1999, before the birth of the "script kiddie" phenomenon and get away with it.

But guess what? It ain't 1999 anymore and there are dozens of client side hacks available for PS2 (do a 10 second google search) made all too easy by SOE itself. Other companies put most of the critical calculations server side, but not SOE!

Plus, SOE, by their messed up F2P business model, give people EVERY INCENTIVE to cheat.

The OP assumes it is just "low lifes" that cheat in PS2, but the fact is the more people you kill in game, the less real money you have to spend on things, so people don't just cheat for the fun of cheating, they do it to save money!

 

SOE is incompetent on many levels, and what you are seeing here is simply a reflection of that.

 

There is no current tech to make it server side I am glad you do not work for SOE the game would be unplayable if hit detection and everything else was server sided. 

Actually shot validation can be done server side without introducing lag, I know it sounds too good to be true but there is a predicitive algorithm that is used and validation is done after the fact.

 

 

  dgarbini

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1/27/14 8:38:08 AM#33
Originally posted by Hatefull

 

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Hacking is a problem, but its probably less the 1% of the people.  Still stupid and still frustrating when it happens though can really ruin a good fight.  But like said there are many other problems, game runs poorly, zerging, population balance, air/armor spam, all would be more important to me.

 

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  Paragus1

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1/27/14 8:49:13 AM#34
I've been playing this game since beta and have seen MAYBE 2 people tops that I thought could be hacking.   The hackusations are way overblown in this game as in with other FPS games as well.
  TerminalDeity

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1/27/14 8:52:42 AM#35

I am an Alpha Squad player from closed beta, and I still play today. I have NEVER seen a single hacker while playing this game. I have seen video of them, so I know they exist, but I have never personally witnessed one.

If I can play this long without seeing one, then they can't be that bad.

  Amana

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1/27/14 11:32:12 AM#36
Guys, a quick reminder not to post in detail about exploits or link any video or anything that shows people how to cheat. 

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  Zzulu

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1/27/14 11:40:00 AM#37

A funny anecdote from me:

 

I was playing with my VS outfit in the game and we were at the Crown waiting for the TR to come over there and try to take it. I decide to tell my squad over voice coms that I'll be logging off and then I did. But I relogged as TR and joined their assault on the Crown against my outfit teammembers without them knowing it just to hear what they would say over voice coms as I killed them. There was this one particularly frustrating young guy who kept boasting about how good he was that I wanted to go up against myself. :P

 

So the big battle starts and I killed around 6 of them in a row and was accused of hacking by them. Some of them were so certain I was using an aimbot that they didn't even believe me when I logged back into my VS character and told them that it was me who had shot them for shits and giggles. I have personally never used a cheat in a multiplayer game in my life and I've been playing games for a very long time now

 

So, just because you think a guy is hacking it might not be the case. I personally have not come across many aimbotters and only a few speedhackers and those guys dont usually last very long

  Kevyne-Shandris

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1/30/14 1:55:56 AM#38
Originally posted by Paragus1
I've been playing this game since beta and have seen MAYBE 2 people tops that I thought could be hacking.   The hackusations are way overblown in this game as in with other FPS games as well.

Until you shoot blatant examples of it (but rest assured those who pooh-pooh that stuff will continue on claiming "you lie"; "*I* never saw a cheat" rhetoric)...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUSVhO_IVEY

 

Had to stop playing not only because seeing that stuff, all the multihack videos of PS2 on YouTube. It maybe a F2P, but no point wasting time on blatant cheats that obvious. At least in BF3+ as server admins we can catch them red handed and ban their butts.

  Oain

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2/01/14 8:36:17 PM#39
i was thinking the same thing about people saying there is no hacks. dude you cant see everything just because you havent seen any doesent mean its not there. theres plenty of hacks going on i cant beleive you folks are so naive. so very naive. makes me wonder what else you dont beleive is true. every FPS willl have hacks, plenty of hacks. thats just common sense. either you are blind or you are just new to online games or something. every game have many, many hacks, bots, and everything else. ESPECIALLY FPS GAMES. that includes, combat arms, A.V.A, soldier front, soldier front 2, crossfire, project blackout, blacklight retrobution, and 20 other games. wake up and smell the coffee.
  Lukooone

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2/01/14 8:46:23 PM#40

Hackers? Yes there are a few, you can play an entire year and not see any hacker. The only one I saw flying inside the structure of a biolab was in a YouTube vid in PS2 fórums.

 

Aimbotters? DOZENS A DAY every time I play. If you guys arent able to see them you are just plain blind.

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