Originally posted by MMOGamer71

Too funny OP.  My question?  Why does a game in beta have a cash shop?

because money

Originally posted by tristanryan

 

3. Freedom of Speech, which was extremely important in colonial America, is currently allowed.

 

 

lol

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by Vesavius

Surely the first rule when *choosing* to play this model of game, knowing *full well* the rule set and full well the kind of player it's gonna attract is to be ultra paranoid in all things? Wouldn't getting the fuck outta the way of charging bears fall under that general area?

I don't care if the panties were in an unopened box or being waved from the end of a 10' pole, you claimed them into a lootable space in a game designed to allow other players to seperate you from them.

I suspect you don't have the mental fortitude or general mindset for this type of game OP... best choose another I think.

I cannot feel sorry for people that choose to go into a game and then complain about the ruleset after. There are obviously fundamental questions you should have been asking before spending real money. The onus is on you, not the company IMO.

but your not suppose to be able to get killed in the starter towns.. it would be totally different if that was not the case..

 

Looking at that thread though it was obviously well known that this was happening on an ongoing basis, so the smart aware player should really be taking that into account, especially with real money items involved.

In a wider sense though... I have a feeling that this game is gonna provide me with almost as much ongoing forum entertainment as EvE and MO do as a non player.

 

 

haha true true.. tho he might have been new and never read the forums..

 

 

Tho thinking about it is Salem still in beta? if so how on earth are they even selling items for real money for a game thats not even released yet..?

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by Vesavius

Surely the first rule when *choosing* to play this model of game, knowing *full well* the rule set and full well the kind of player it's gonna attract is to be ultra paranoid in all things? Wouldn't getting the fuck outta the way of charging bears fall under that general area?

I don't care if the panties were in an unopened box or being waved from the end of a 10' pole, you claimed them into a lootable space in a game designed to allow other players to seperate you from them.

I suspect you don't have the mental fortitude or general mindset for this type of game OP... best choose another I think.

I cannot feel sorry for people that choose to go into a game and then complain about the ruleset after. There are obviously fundamental questions you should have been asking before spending real money. The onus is on you, not the company IMO.

but your not suppose to be able to get killed in the starter towns.. it would be totally different if that was not the case..

 Looking at that thread though it was obviously well known that this was happening on an ongoing basis, so the smart aware player should really be taking that into account, especially with real money items involved.

In a wider sense though... I have a feeling that this game is gonna provide me with almost as much ongoing forum entertainment as EvE and MO do as a non player.

haha true true.. tho he might have been new and never read the forums..

Tho thinking about it is Salem still in beta? if so how on earth are they even selling items for real money for a game thats not even released yet..?

 

Even in beta they need to keep those bears fed.

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Arcondo87

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

Hahaha, sorry but the account of what happened to you and the guy's response is hilarious. It is more like you ordered a pair of underwear, and the mail guy delivered it to you, then punched you in the face, took a dump in the undewear (destroying it), and then ran off yelling "sucker!".

I'll be staying clear of this game - have heard more crap, like your event, elsewhere.

Seems to me like you are exactly the kind of gamer that is responsible for continual decline in MMO's.  I hope this happens to you .. I will /laugh .  Imo the response by the mod was distasteful, and disgraceful. I could see the issue  having trouble being solved    without any proof but the way he responded  is ridiculous. I dont think its the least bit funny.

This game is a scam that was designed to take your money. I already called this game out as a scam when it was announced way back.

 

You got duped, and while I don't feel what they're doing is morally correct and agree that this company should be held accountable, you're always going to find people taking advantage of people. You need to be careful with your money IRL or you're going to get robbed, and in this case you got robbed by Salem by actually forking money over to this scamming scheme disguised as a sandbox title.

 

There were so many signs this game was a scam, just by looking at screenshots. But after I tried the beta and saw the product, I was actually concerned about malware being left on my computer after the uninstall.

Originally posted by Caldrin

Originally posted by Vesavius

Surely the first rule when *choosing* to play this model of game, knowing *full well* the rule set and full well the kind of player it's gonna attract is to be ultra paranoid in all things? Wouldn't getting the fuck outta the way of charging bears fall under that general area?

I don't care if the panties were in an unopened box or being waved from the end of a 10' pole, you claimed them into a lootable space in a game designed to allow other players to seperate you from them.

I suspect you don't have the mental fortitude or general mindset for this type of game OP... best choose another I think.

I cannot feel sorry for people that choose to go into a game and then complain about the ruleset after. There are obviously fundamental questions you should have been asking before spending real money. The onus is on you, not the company IMO.

but your not suppose to be able to get killed in the starter towns.. it would be totally different if that was not the case..

please stop saying he was killed, death in salem is perminate.  the bear only knocks out a person who has less then 50 blackbile with fear (which is typically what nails new players. as the fear is an AOE) even porting home you can be KOed but its no differant then  being hit by a bear in the wild which has happened to me while afk behind double walls. 

that said, the devs have disabled mobs from attacking in town or something so this issue is dead now. but alot of people have been hit by it or the turkey agro in houses. as i have said do not AFK ingame in boston or anything. if you must afk do so in your own safe area far away from players. or log out... which is ultimately the safest thing

Sounds like a game I would try, but the mods response and the community response, was and is outrageous.

Guess I will be staying away from this one.

Agree with shorty. The Mod acts like a total prick and the community isn't much better. I played this game briefly and didn't care for it anyway so the point is moot.

After what I have read and seen, Paradox is not getting even a dime from me. Thanks to the OP for the information.

Warning: Salem features permanent death and an open loot system, which means that items bought here might be lost in game.

 

I can find about three occurences during a micro-transaction in which you can find that warning.

 

Get over it.

As a gamer of many years and particpant in MANY, many beta phases of game development, I've ALWAYS been one to READ about the game on the main site AND the forums BEFORE putting ANY of my money to a character. ESPECIALLY in a Beta phase. Wow can you be any less careful with your money? I knew before logging on what type of game it was and not to spend any cash on a character until I KNEW how to protect that investment. It is YOUR fault you logged into a BETA game and spent money. Who does that? Pays cash for lootableitems in a beta game of this type? o.O

It's truly NOT that hard to figure out the game THEN if you still feel the need, spend money on silver that is just as easy to get by stomping on a few crickets.

 

In a Beta phase the FIRST thing you remember is IT IS BETA

DO NOT SPEND MONEY in a game like this unless you KNOW how to protect what you bought.

The game has since solved many of the issues with griefing in town. I've not had a problem yet but then again, I READ THE FORUMS FIRST so I would KNOW how to be more CAREFUL. :D

 

The game itself is VERY engaging once you get used to the game play. People should PLAY the BETA and not be so squeemish, lol. It's truly a BLAST in  my honest opinion.

ALSO....important to note...the items  you buy nearly all of them are able to get ingame later. You will not suffer game play later because you lost a pack you frivolously bought and lost on your first day in Salem. Sorry your experience was so bad, OP, but YOU SHOULD read the forums and about the game FIRST then decide whether to LEARN the game first THEN spend real world cash on it.

After watching that video for 90 seconds, I'm more stunned you spent 15 bucks on that game...  It looks like the game COST 15 to make....was it made in 1982?

Originally posted by Darklighter1
After watching that video for 90 seconds, I'm more stunned you spent 15 bucks on that game...  It looks like the game COST 15 to make....was it made in 1982?

IT IS FREE or can you not read? IT was his choice to spend that. The game is super and isn't for gamers who like to hop on a shiny steed the first day carrying some huge sword to swing at lame mobs.

 

BEWARE the Salem BUNNIES!  Great game really and worth a try for a game of a different sort.

You can't kill a bear?  Just last week a bear was coming out of hibernation by my house (IRL) and attacked me.  I killed him with my bear hands. 

The game is free to try while in Beta.  Thers is NO good reason to spend any money.  It is VERY PVP.  Mobs can knock you out, players can knock you out or kill you.  Its full loot and you lose all your skill if you are killed.

 

The crafting can be fun if you can find some PVP players to hide behind.  Most PVP players hate to craft so they are always looking for new players to do the crafting.  That said, there is also alot of players that like to gank new players.  Don't cry to much if you are killed before you find a home. You have not lost anything but a little time.

 

The first thing any new player should do is check the forums and look for a city to join.  A good city can supply the needed items for raising a players skill high enough to PVP or craft.  That is how the PVP keeps going.   PVPer gets killed, the city gives him enough itmes to get him back into the fight.  Maybe three or four down days tops.  Most of that time is spent in the forums telling how they were killed and talking big.

 

As to the OP,  wrong place at the wrong time.  Nothing lost that a city has plenty of extras of.

 

This is not a solo play type of game.  PVPers search for hours, or days,  looking for anybody dumb enough to try.  The soloers never last long.

Originally posted by Darklighter1
After watching that video for 90 seconds, I'm more stunned you spent 15 bucks on that game...  It looks like the game COST 15 to make....was it made in 1982?

Well I take it you're not a minecraft fan either then. These graphics are just a DIFFERENT graphic style. Many people like minecraft and it is ALL BLOCKY and meant to be graphically simple. This is another game that is busting out with new graphic and game play style. It isnt necessarily for everyone but I've played MOST of the HUGE games out there and find this one has great playability. It is quite HUMOURously fun with it's unique styling.

It's pretty funny that this is how the community/mods treat an individual who willingly chose to support their *beta*.

Originally posted by Arcondo87

Yup its true...paradoxinteractiv's customer support is probly the worst i ever in my life had to deal with....let me explain my situation:

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

So i then went back to town after i died with nothing just a bare char to record this on video....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9S7tIiOJdc&feature=plcp

I then went to the forums to report this and ask that i get a new pack since i never recieved mine, or my money be refunded...much to my astonishment i was greeted by a Mod named Sevenless...who basically told me to fuck off and grow up cuz its your fault not ours. Also stated there is nothign that can be done and to contact paradox via email.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

I then went to find a phone number to contact them but guess what NO WHERE do they have a support phone number just a email...

I feel that i have been robbed of 15 dollers from this company for there incompatance for adressing this issue. And the fact that i didnt even get to OPEN my pack or leave town....

 

In conclusion...Salem a game where no one gives a shit even the GM's...we take your money and laugh...

and i thought WarZ was bad.

Man you like ffa pvp then you just have to live with this, it is a risk you take when you play this kind of games.Nothing unfair in you loosing your stuff there I Think.

Contest the charges with your credit card company.  I did it when City of Heroes announced they were closing (I just had paid for a year).  Credit card company was very nice about it and they reversed the charges.  BUT my account was banned permanently a week later.  Which didn't matter since they went under anyway.  Screw You NC Soft!!  :D