Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Arcondo87

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

Hahaha, sorry but the account of what happened to you and the guy's response is hilarious. It is more like you ordered a pair of underwear, and the mail guy delivered it to you, then punched you in the face, took a dump in the undewear (destroying it), and then ran off yelling "sucker!".

The actual thread is even funnier. You can read it here. The second post in the thread is the forum mod giving him the company's support email address, but that's not enough for the OP and he keeps going. :)

I know a lot more about this game than I did before.

"looting people in a place where you can't aggro and kill them is total bullshit." Quote from the thread - sounds like failure game mechanic in starterville.

Bro, honestly. One griefer probably spent hours trying to kite that bear to Boston and a few people got knocked out, not death, and you will discount the whole game (and boy is there a lot to this game) because of one player messing around? With one click of the mouse you can instantly port back to your settlement...

Will the mechanic of people kiting bears to Boston and getting players knocked out be changed? More than likely of course, the game is in beta after all.

One of the best parts about this game is the lead dev (there arent many) has a vision and isnt afraid to completely shoot down terrible ideas from players that dont know any better or anything about game design. He even held a Q&A in boston, and at the end of the presentation, he spawned hundreds of snakes and many, many people got knocked out, which is exactly what happened to the OP of this post. Immature? Maybe. Funny? Absolutely. Do we finally have a dev with balls and not under so many chains they cannot show it? Definitely.

I think a lot of you would really enjoy the game if you give it a chance. After a few days you will understand why the graphics are the way they are. Its pretty deep, imo.

Well, to be fair, you did get your stuff, you said yourself that you bought it, went to your mail box and retrieved it....Once you took it out of the mail box, you had it.

If the town is a safe zone, then they should have guards or something....Kind of like old UO, someone/creature attacks you, you yell guards and WHAM!  It doesn't mean that you cannot be killed though, just that it would of maybe only happend to one person.

It sounds like what happend to you, is within Salem's spirit of the game, they may put guards in or something now...But I second what someone said, why is their a cash shop in a beta game.

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by tristanryan

Originally posted by botrytis

Originally posted by tristanryan

Completely, totally, without a doubt disagree.

 

This is one of the coolest most addicting games since SWG. Its in beta and new things are being added constantly. I just started a few weeks ago and still completely 110% into this game. THIS is a sandbox. Someone kiting a bear to town and getting you killed, and probably many others as well (ive seen it happen) is very unfortunate and a tad bit amusing.

I agree the salem forum mods could be more professional at times, but they are just normal players that have volunteered to moderate the forum. They QQ and rage as well, as you can see on the salem forum. Im going to cut this post short because im starting to ramble.. but just one more thing...

 

This game has AMAZING potential. The game worlds are absolutely enormous. You can almost do anything you can imagine, its a total sandbox. To push this game aside because of its shitty graphics (they are, kinda) or because of PvP fear, or the above situation would be a great disservice to yourself.

For to many reasons to list, this game is fucking amazing and i greatly enjoy it.

 

Looks like farmville with witches.......

 

 

Thats what i thought too. Once again, i think many of you would be suprised on a level you might fall out of your chair. A lot of players (not you, specifically) have never even seen a real sandbox. It can be daunting. It can also be awesome. Look how many years its been since we had a real world that can be changed and built upon with pvp and alliances and politics and terraforming and crafting so deep it will make your head spin. Im not trying to sell you the game btw, i just think a lot dont know what they are missing.

I have - I played Tale in the Desert (all the versions) and the graphics were much better there.

 

Not missing anything....

This isnt even remotely close to a tale in the desert. Correct me if im wrong, but ATiTD is 100% crafting only, and the world is also reset periodically, and everyone works together under rainbows and sunshine thriving on teamwork. (ive never played it, but researched it several times) There is no pvp. No tracking. No crime system. No permadeath etc etc.

That isnt anything close to salem. Well, not my playstyle anyway. I would bet my next paycheck 99% of people wont play this game because of the graphics alone and nothing more. After a few days i learned to really enjoy the quirky setting including the graphics when i seen everything thats possible.

All I can says is best be carefull in that game.  Meanwhile I stay far far away.  It looked like junk when they were trying to give away beta keys, and decided at that point I wanted nothing to do with it. 

Originally posted by tristanryan

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Arcondo87

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

Hahaha, sorry but the account of what happened to you and the guy's response is hilarious. It is more like you ordered a pair of underwear, and the mail guy delivered it to you, then punched you in the face, took a dump in the undewear (destroying it), and then ran off yelling "sucker!".

The actual thread is even funnier. You can read it here. The second post in the thread is the forum mod giving him the company's support email address, but that's not enough for the OP and he keeps going. :)

I know a lot more about this game than I did before.

"looting people in a place where you can't aggro and kill them is total bullshit." Quote from the thread - sounds like failure game mechanic in starterville.

 

Bro, honestly. One griefer probably spent hours trying to kite that bear to Boston and a few people got knocked out, not death, and you will discount the whole game (and boy is there a lot to this game) because of one player messing around? With one click of the mouse you can instantly port back to your settlement...

Will the mechanic of people kiting bears to Boston and getting players knocked out be changed? More than likely of course, the game is in beta after all.

 

One of the best parts about this game is the lead dev (there arent many) has a vision and isnt afraid to completely shoot down terrible ideas from players that dont know any better or anything about game design. He even held a Q&A in boston, and at the end of the presentation, he spawned hundreds of snakes and many, many people got knocked out, which is exactly what happened to the OP of this post. Immature? Maybe. Funny? Absolutely. Do we finally have a dev with balls and not under so many chains they cannot show it? Definitely.

I think a lot of you would really enjoy the game if you give it a chance. After a few days you will understand why the graphics are the way they are. Its pretty deep, imo.

Irony.  Pissing off your player base = good game design?

So OP get mauled by a bear and then mugged... I am so glad the OP did not play Ultima Online... that would have been a burst bloodvessel waiting to happen.

Did the OP know that this game is FFA...?

Any way good luck in getting your money back, i hope they clöse you account too so you can not inflict any more harm to your self.

Originally posted by tristanryan

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Loktofeit

The actual thread is even funnier. You can read it here. The second post in the thread is the forum mod giving him the company's support email address, but that's not enough for the OP and he keeps going. :)

I know a lot more about this game than I did before.

"looting people in a place where you can't aggro and kill them is total bullshit." Quote from the thread - sounds like failure game mechanic in starterville.

Bro, honestly. One griefer probably spent hours trying to kite that bear to Boston and a few people got knocked out, not death, and you will discount the whole game (and boy is there a lot to this game) because of one player messing around? With one click of the mouse you can instantly port back to your settlement...

Will the mechanic of people kiting bears to Boston and getting players knocked out be changed? More than likely of course, the game is in beta after all.

One of the best parts about this game is the lead dev (there arent many) has a vision and isnt afraid to completely shoot down terrible ideas from players that dont know any better or anything about game design. He even held a Q&A in boston, and at the end of the presentation, he spawned hundreds of snakes and many, many people got knocked out, which is exactly what happened to the OP of this post. Immature? Maybe. Funny? Absolutely. Do we finally have a dev with balls and not under so many chains they cannot show it? Definitely.

I think a lot of you would really enjoy the game if you give it a chance. After a few days you will understand why the graphics are the way they are. Its pretty deep, imo.

From reading the linked thread, it sounds like some folks lead wildlife into town non-stop. Buying from a cash shop in any game's beta is bogus IMO. From reading more of the OP's posts, sounds like he has a problem with cash shops and failing in general.

Maybe I'll take a look at it after a few patches. I enjoy a good open crafting game.

Originally posted by erictlewis

All I can says is best be carefull in that game.  Meanwhile I stay far far away.  It looked like junk when they were trying to give away beta keys, and decided at that point I wanted nothing to do with it. 

 

I agree, gotta be careful in this game. But you lost me after that..

You have been around here since 2008 and you consider a game "junk" when beta keys are handed out...?...ok.

Originally posted by grimal

Originally posted by tristanryan

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Arcondo87

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

Hahaha, sorry but the account of what happened to you and the guy's response is hilarious. It is more like you ordered a pair of underwear, and the mail guy delivered it to you, then punched you in the face, took a dump in the undewear (destroying it), and then ran off yelling "sucker!".

The actual thread is even funnier. You can read it here. The second post in the thread is the forum mod giving him the company's support email address, but that's not enough for the OP and he keeps going. :)

I know a lot more about this game than I did before.

"looting people in a place where you can't aggro and kill them is total bullshit." Quote from the thread - sounds like failure game mechanic in starterville.

 

Bro, honestly. One griefer probably spent hours trying to kite that bear to Boston and a few people got knocked out, not death, and you will discount the whole game (and boy is there a lot to this game) because of one player messing around? With one click of the mouse you can instantly port back to your settlement...

Will the mechanic of people kiting bears to Boston and getting players knocked out be changed? More than likely of course, the game is in beta after all.

 

One of the best parts about this game is the lead dev (there arent many) has a vision and isnt afraid to completely shoot down terrible ideas from players that dont know any better or anything about game design. He even held a Q&A in boston, and at the end of the presentation, he spawned hundreds of snakes and many, many people got knocked out, which is exactly what happened to the OP of this post. Immature? Maybe. Funny? Absolutely. Do we finally have a dev with balls and not under so many chains they cannot show it? Definitely.

I think a lot of you would really enjoy the game if you give it a chance. After a few days you will understand why the graphics are the way they are. Its pretty deep, imo.

Irony.  Pissing off your player base = good game design?

Are you serious? I think you misunderstood what i was trying to convey, but whatever.

Was actually very intrigued by this game, but I couldn't get past the graphics and movement of my opening, buck naked start area. Quite glad now. Wizardry seems to be the same harsh, rage quit inducing attempt at being "outside of the box."

Odds are, despite their obviously troll like sadism and that of their support help, they will banhammer chat and any minor thing they consider an exploit that favors the player.

Originally posted by Didelphus

Was actually very intrigued by this game, but I couldn't get past the graphics and movement of my opening, buck naked start area. Quite glad now. Wizardry seems to be the same harsh, rage quit inducing attempt at being "outside of the box."

Odds are, despite their obviously troll like sadism and that of their support help, they will banhammer chat and any minor thing they consider an exploit that favors the player.

Download the Ender client (extremely simple) and try it once more.

You may possibly thank me later...

Oh. My. God. Aahahahahhaa! Guise, seriously! Read his topic at the salem forums it's seriously hilarious. Seriously guise!

http://forum.salemgame.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2482

do you mean this thread? where you and some other guy fly off the handle which causes the thread to degrade in to trolling and flaming??

http://forum.salemgame.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2482

cause honestly you get what you pay for... salem much like haven and hearth have its decent players and its Aholes.  never EVER afk in an area outside of your own claim. its just stupid if people can they will abuse legitimate game mechanics to screw people. 

sorry you lost the money and the box but that is salem... dont think you will get squat back as it is a legitimate game mechanic that KOed you (and no you didnt get killed you got KOed as permadeath would mean you lost the RMT item and the toon thankfully no animals can perma kill you in salem yet)

iv had people try this stunt on me using a beaver. unfortunately for them i killed it and took the hide. but they had already KOed and looted about 5 "noobs" toons. 

~edit~ 

seems you jumped the gun by this thread eh.. going by this one you opened not long ago

http://forum.salemgame.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2510

nice that they gave it back to you. get a custom client (ender or BD) both provide a larger minimap and radar so you can see what nasties are running around you before you start to do stuff. 

Sorry to OP, it was me who lured the bear :)

I did kill the bear in the end though, after looting +/- 10 packages :p

Originally posted by tristanryan

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Eluldor

Originally posted by Arcondo87

In salem you can buy gold or item packs...i went to town, bought a $15 pioneer pack, i recieved it in mail so i went to my mail box to get it. Got to my mail box removed the gift box to my inventory. At that point a BEAR killed me! A Bear kited into town by annother player that killed everyone and in turn everyones chars were looted. This included my brand new not even opend $15 pioneer pack.

He then said its liek buying a pair of underwear and shitting in them and bringing them back to a store....sorry but that dosnt sound anythgin like what has happend to me considering i didnt even OPEN the package and it happend IN STORE(town) He also said its a clever, smart way of ppl robbing chars since salem has no way to stop city bear killing from happening....

Hahaha, sorry but the account of what happened to you and the guy's response is hilarious. It is more like you ordered a pair of underwear, and the mail guy delivered it to you, then punched you in the face, took a dump in the undewear (destroying it), and then ran off yelling "sucker!".

The actual thread is even funnier. You can read it here. The second post in the thread is the forum mod giving him the company's support email address, but that's not enough for the OP and he keeps going. :)

I know a lot more about this game than I did before.

"looting people in a place where you can't aggro and kill them is total bullshit." Quote from the thread - sounds like failure game mechanic in starterville.

 

Bro, honestly. One griefer probably spent hours trying to kite that bear to Boston and a few people got knocked out, not death, and you will discount the whole game (and boy is there a lot to this game) because of one player messing around? With one click of the mouse you can instantly port back to your settlement...

Will the mechanic of people kiting bears to Boston and getting players knocked out be changed? More than likely of course, the game is in beta after all.

 

One of the best parts about this game is the lead dev (there arent many) has a vision and isnt afraid to completely shoot down terrible ideas from players that dont know any better or anything about game design. He even held a Q&A in boston, and at the end of the presentation, he spawned hundreds of snakes and many, many people got knocked out, which is exactly what happened to the OP of this post. Immature? Maybe. Funny? Absolutely. Do we finally have a dev with balls and not under so many chains they cannot show it? Definitely.

I think a lot of you would really enjoy the game if you give it a chance. After a few days you will understand why the graphics are the way they are. Its pretty deep, imo.

Yea, that is great and everything.  Problem is, here you had someone interested in this type of game and they basically got ganked and screwed out of their money.   Since he got the money back perhaps he will continue to play.  But what about the Ahole ganker above, who says he screwed maybe 10 players over with his cheap"game mechanic".   Will all those players return to play and just laugh it off??

Keep losing players like this and before you know it you are a "niche" game with a bad rep.  Just like so many other Open PvP games. 

And the cycle continues.  Your wonderful dev won't mean squat!

My thought is that one should probably know where the "real" safe zones are if there is a chance of having your body looted of items you purchased with real money.

My real concern is that GM. Very unprofessional. I'd fire him on the spot.

Originally posted by Sovrath

My thought is that one should probably know where the "real" safe zones are if there is a chance of having your body looted of items you purchased with real money.

My real concern is that GM. Very unprofessional. I'd fire him on the spot.

it wasnt a GM it was a forum mod. to be frank the OP does not understand seatribe's systems very well. 

salem is just a revamp of their haven and hearth game. which has 0 safe zones at all. and alot more ganking and griefing. 

that being said, the forum mods troll players just as much/bad as the players do. nothing you can do about it wont change.  hell the devs troll their players by spawning monsters that kill them in "boston" lol its just how it is. 

they have since set boston to disable animal attacks so this crap isnt possible, but i dont think anything will happen to the griefers who tried it. there was a few on Roa that tried the bear crap. sadly for them people tended to avoid it pretty quick so the only ones being ko'ed by it were their 6 nude alts

most will play salem thinking its a easy crafting game, and die never to play it again. its just how it is. like hnh it will be niche or shutdown nothing will change that. its just how the game is