Originally posted by BadT

Okay Cho, I will just keep posting and "hating" but let you take the heat from it kk? LOL 

LoL no kiddin' BadT. Ah welll, no biggie to me. These guys make it tooo tooo easy. 

Wow... I read through this most of this thread, and I must say, I never knew they did this much.  I only knew briefly that they scammed money and used an illegal device..but now I know.  I never knew that Pix got sued, or that Farlan tried this many excuces.

Well, now I know.  Good luck Pix

Originally posted by mike470

Wow... I read through this most of this thread, and I must say, I never knew they did this much.  I only knew briefly that they scammed money and used an illegal device..but now I know.  I never knew that Pix got sued, or that Farlan tried this many excuces.

Well, now I know.  Good luck Pix

This is what DNL and their "fans" tried to discredit and prevent.

This is why we want people to know the whole truth. Hopefully Farlans shameful actions will prevent other sleazy devs from trying to pull this crap. MMO players dont need companies like Farlan.

Originally posted by Dwerk-

You know, i see that people here is hoping for Farlan to LOSE the lawsuit. But i would never hope for someone to lose a lawsuit. Farlan has already lost: the game did not sell well, they have tons of difficulties, they have terrible reputation among the gaming community: IF they stole the terrain engine, they have been already punished by the market: there is no need to damage them again. On the other hand, Mr _Pix_ will earn lots of money if he wins the lawsuit, and this is why he is writing here, trying to change the public opinion in his own interest.

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that they did indeed steal the terrain engine.

They've made a game and sold it to players. We all know that D&L isn't too successfull, but independently of whether they made a profit or not, they earned money. From stolen property.

Don't you think that Pix was entitled to a part of this money ? You think it is normal that he got 0 euros from his years of work, while you're defending the people who stole him by saying that "bah, they did not sell well anyway, it doesn't matter anymore" ?

Originally posted by Nyast

 

Originally posted by Dwerk-

You know, i see that people here is hoping for Farlan to LOSE the lawsuit. But i would never hope for someone to lose a lawsuit. Farlan has already lost: the game did not sell well, they have tons of difficulties, they have terrible reputation among the gaming community: IF they stole the terrain engine, they have been already punished by the market: there is no need to damage them again. On the other hand, Mr _Pix_ will earn lots of money if he wins the lawsuit, and this is why he is writing here, trying to change the public opinion in his own interest.

 

Let's say, for the sake of the argument, that they did indeed steal the terrain engine.

They've made a game and sold it to players. We all know that D&L isn't too successfull, but independently of whether they made a profit or not, they earned money. From stolen property.

Don't you think that Pix was entitled to a part of this money ? You think it is normal that he got 0 euros from his years of work, while you're defending the people who stole him by saying that "bah, they did not sell well anyway, it doesn't matter anymore" ?

 

 

 

 

As of 06/03/08 -- the game is still experiencing the same problems it had well before release of the "SOG that is not DNL that really was DNL all along". Easily validated by posts on their own forums (of which they even tried to hide that from the general public due to the abysmal state of the game. They wanted people to sign on but didnt want them to know just how sloppy and unplayable this game really is. )

They have blamed _Pix_ and now have even attempted to place blame on Snailgames for their troubles. It's everybody else BUT Farceland according to them. (see the press release wherein Farceland attempts to bring Snailgames into the copyright infringement fiasco they created in a court of law.)

The saddest and most hilarious at the same time is that they STILL attempt to throw off this mess they themselves created and continue to make fools of themselves in the mmo industry.

Originally posted by Dwerk-

I would just note that in the website of VWORLD, Pix is using the DarkAndLight to publicize his engine: there are screens of the game, written description, and so on. At the same time, Pix issues a lawsuit against Farlan for having stolen the engine and damaged his reputation (!!!).

In other words, Farlan is an enemy when it comes to licensing his engine, but it's a good friend when it comes to exhalt the possibilities of his engine. Anything that makes money, of course, is welcome, even your worst enemy that stole your work and blamed your reputation.

A coherent behavior indeed...

Sorry for necro-ing this one, but I haven't been on for a while, and I almost asphyxiated on my pizza when I read this.

It appears that _Pix_ has Farlan/NP³ all wrong...he should be grateful to them for all the free advertising that they've given his terrain tech! 

Nice flip there, buddy...I'd bet even Bill Clinton would be impressed with that one.

A double necro, i simply needed to reply here aswell.

To this Dwerk- guy:

Yes, i hope that Farlan loses. I am saying that from a player's perspective, and from a consumer's perspective.

- In good faith i bought a product from Farlan/NPC, which they never delivered.

- In order to not get billed, i needed to *not* activate my account according to Farlan. However, they contradicted themselves by billing me 6 months later, and telling me that i had to activate the account to *not* get billed.

These are the reasons why people want Farlan to lose. We are consumers, and we got scammed. By proxy, Pix is getting our money back.

Some news over the last couple of months:

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May 2, 2008- [VWORLD - Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand]

On March 13th, 2008 NPCube was dismissed of all its claims in the case it brought against VWORLD before the Commercial Court of Clermont-Ferrand on the grounds of unfair competition and damage to its reputation. NPCube has been convicted and fined 50, 000 Euros damages to VWORLD.

However on May 2, 2008 NPCube initiates a procedure to appeal against the judgment before the Court of Appeal of Riom.

As a reminder, four years ago, on July 6th, 2004, Mr Laurent Paret was informing M. Vincent Pourieux of certain "remarks" that some of Farlan's and NPCube's associates had voiced towards VWORLD, indicating their intention not to let VWORLD flourish in peace :

As a reminder also, Farlan had been publicly announcing as early as November 2005 that it was sueing Mr Vincent Pourieux , and NPCube claimed that Mr Vincent  Pourieux had attempted to get money out of them :

No such Court action has been brought agaisnt Mr Pourieux to date, that is, two years and a half after it was publicly announced, and this news was relayed and translated in various languages on many Internet websites.

May 5, 2008- [University or Reunion Island]
Mr Vincent Pourieux writes an open letter to the President of the University of Reunion Island, Mr Serge Svizzero, demanding an explanation on the E-Campus project and the European public funds (ERDF) granted to its development. The E-Campus project is based on a partnership between the University of Reunion Island and the Reunionese company NPCube : this project takes advantage of the technical features of VWorldTerrain technology, without giving credit to its inventor and without being governed by licencing agreements with VWORLD.

Mr Serge Svizzero, President of the University of Reunion Island, has not given any reply to this open letter yet.


June 2, 2008- [NPCube / Mr Cesar Jacquet]
Mr Vincent Pourieux writes an open letter to Mr  Cesar Jacquet, manager of NPCube, offering to meet him in China within the framework of the development of the Asian version of the Dark and Light MMORPG, conducted in partnership between Reunionese company NPCube, Mauritian company Farlan and Chinese company SnailGame. Mr Cesar Jacquet has recently taken all measures to lay off NPCube's entire personnel and currently is on extensive travel in China.

Mr Cesar Jacquet, manager of Reunionese company NPCube, has not given any reply to this open letter yet. 
 

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( source )

in brief:

1- NPCube is appealing against the judgment (targeted date, let's say something "soon" like 2009 )

2- Mr Serge Svizzero, President of the University of Reunion Island, has not given any reply yet to the open letter that was written for his attention last month already

3- Mr Cesar Jacquet has not replied either to the open letter that was written for his attention two weeks ago, prior to his leaving Reunion Island for China and succeeding his giving notice of their redundancy to all his remaining employees

Originally posted by _Pix_

 

 

in brief:

 

1- NPCube is appealing against the judgment (targeted date, let's say something "soon" like 2009 )

2- Mr Serge Svizzero, President of the University of Reunion Island, has not given any reply yet to the open letter that was written for his attention last month already

3- Mr Cesar Jacquet has not replied either to the open letter that was written for his attention two weeks ago, prior to his leaving Reunion Island for China and succeeding his giving notice of their redundancy to all his remaining employees

 

 

 

1. Stalling while Jacquet runs to pirate software haven China.

2. Poor guy has a face full of egg, right now. He'll maybe respond....someday.

3. His only hope is going full-pirate with Snailgames and hoping to stay out of legal jurisdiction while profiting off stolen software.

Pretty much the scenario we figured he'd go for, _Pix_.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by _Pix_

 

 

in brief:

 

1- NPCube is appealing against the judgment (targeted date, let's say something "soon" like 2009 )

2- Mr Serge Svizzero, President of the University of Reunion Island, has not given any reply yet to the open letter that was written for his attention last month already

3- Mr Cesar Jacquet has not replied either to the open letter that was written for his attention two weeks ago, prior to his leaving Reunion Island for China and succeeding his giving notice of their redundancy to all his remaining employees

 

 

 

 

1. Stalling while Jacquet runs to pirate software haven China.

2. Poor guy has a face full of egg, right now. He'll maybe respond....someday.

3. His only hope is going full-pirate with Snailgames and hoping to stay out of legal jurisdiction while profiting off stolen software.

 

Pretty much the scenario we figured he'd go for, _Pix_.

Indeed.

He has already made public his intentions -- by announcing a DNL 2 version. That right there was also a wide and huge misstep on Farlan's part.

LOL They are making this very easy for _Pix_'s attorney LOL

ignorant, sleazy predictability = legal avenues in place = win for _Pix_ hands down