To the people worried about open PvP... This game is from Jake Song... The creative talent behind the Lineage series of MMOs. I played Lineage II for over 3 years and I could probably count the amount of times I got ganked out-rite on two hands with fingers to spare. With the Karma system in Lineage II the gankers were kept in check most of the time. AA will use an even more robust version of this system. I think you'll find that even though getting ganked will still be possible it's not going to happen very often. Most of the ganking in Lineage II happened when people were stupid enough to flag themselves by hitting back. If you don't want to fight don't hit back... it's that simple 95% of the time.

 

As for AA being the "Perfect Storm" I think we need to see it release first. We don't even know how well it will do in the Asian markets yet so there is absolutely no way of knowing how well it will do in the west. I think if what has been released so far is acurate it has a better chance then most but at the same time I don't see it being a "WoW Killer" or anything close. It will probably do well but that is pure speculation based on partial information at this point. As with everything else we will just have to wait and see.

 

Bren

No. For a game to even have a chance to be extraordinary in any way, it first needs an extraordinary developper. As much as I can't stand Blizzard right now or WoW, the fact is Bliz was extraordinary back in the day. Today it's ArenaNet that so far appears extraordinary in many ways, though they are yet to deliver an extraordinary game. But at least this gives Gw2 a big chance to be a perfect storm.

On the other hand ArcheAge devs seem unremarkable, I can't remember seeing even one vid where they talk about their game.. maybe because I wasn't looking hard enough. The game certainly will be an important milestone and tech-testing field for future MMO's, however in itself it looks rather bland in the gameplay videos I saw. And even though it uses the CryEngine, the graphics are a far cry from the potential this engine can deliver. And this means the devs are not good enough to use the tools they've got, which does not speak well about the game itself.

Main issue I have so far are standard quests, no interesting story, and most importantly the feel the combat is painfully standard and grindy. I don't think the new groundbreaking features will be enough to keep people interested if the basics are not done well.

 

There is a lot of videos and info on the main site of Arche Age and US site of Arche Age as well as youtube. The game is sandbox and the combat is pretty fast, also there is about 128 class combinations. Check the links below.

 

http://www.archeage.com/en

http://archeage-online.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo05ANVoGvg

Originally posted by gladosrev2

No. For a game to even have a chance to be extraordinary in any way, it first needs an extraordinary developper. As much as I can't stand Blizzard right now or WoW, the fact is Bliz was extraordinary back in the day. Today it's ArenaNet that so far appears extraordinary in many ways, though they are yet to deliver an extraordinary game. But at least this gives Gw2 a big chance to be a perfect storm.

On the other hand ArcheAge devs seem unremarkable, I can't remember seeing even one vid where they talk about their game.. maybe because I wasn't looking hard enough. The game certainly will be an important milestone and tech-testing field for future MMO's, however in itself it looks rather bland in the gameplay videos I saw. And even though it uses the CryEngine, the graphics are a far cry from the potential this engine can deliver. And this means the devs are not good enough to use the tools they've got, which does not speak well about the game itself.

Main issue I have so far are standard quests, no interesting story, and most importantly the feel the combat is painfully standard and grindy. I don't think the new groundbreaking features will be enough to keep people interested if the basics are not done well.

 

Jake Song is at least 50% of what built NCSoft. He is considered to be one of the most talented developers in the industry. He's hardly what I'd call "unremarkable".

 

Your not going to get Crysis level graphics in a MMO. Not unless you want to cap the amount of players per area to like 30-50 or so. If you didn't whenever there was a large amount of players in one area your game would become a slide show as you would dive to about 2 frames per second even on the best gaming setup. You still cant compare a single player or limited multiplayer game to a MMO graphics wise. In the former you can control the amount of animations that the player can see at one time but in a MMO you can't as you never really know how many players might congregate into one area. It will still be a number of years before you will be able to have Crysis level graphics in a MMO no matter what engine you use as right now the hardware just won't support it.

 

Bren

Originally posted by Stalkerous

There is a lot of videos and info on the main site of Arche Age and US site of Arche Age as well as youtube. The game is sandbox and the combat is pretty fast, also there is about 128 class combinations. Check the links below.

 

http://www.archeage.com/en

http://archeage-online.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo05ANVoGvg

 Man I love that whole series of videos. Yogscast ppl are so funny.

They sure are, and cover most of the game just by having fun no need to be serious lol.

Originally posted by gladosrev2

On the other hand ArcheAge devs seem unremarkable, I can't remember seeing even one vid where they talk about their game.. maybe because I wasn't looking hard enough. The game certainly will be an important milestone and tech-testing field for future MMO's, however in itself it looks rather bland in the gameplay videos I saw. And even though it uses the CryEngine, the graphics are a far cry from the potential this engine can deliver. And this means the devs are not good enough to use the tools they've got, which does not speak well about the game itself.

O rly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1M_wyiAzqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLx52IeyXA4

You've seen many others games with this kind of graphics?

As for ArcheAge devs being unknown, maybe to a westerner, but Jake Song is considered the father of MMOs in Asia. It's like an eastern version of Richard Gariott. So there is great expectations for his next game.

Originally posted by gladosrev2

No. For a game to even have a chance to be extraordinary in any way, it first needs an extraordinary developper. As much as I can't stand Blizzard right now or WoW, the fact is Bliz was extraordinary back in the day. Today it's ArenaNet that so far appears extraordinary in many ways, though they are yet to deliver an extraordinary game. But at least this gives Gw2 a big chance to be a perfect storm.

On the other hand ArcheAge devs seem unremarkable, I can't remember seeing even one vid where they talk about their game.. maybe because I wasn't looking hard enough. The game certainly will be an important milestone and tech-testing field for future MMO's, however in itself it looks rather bland in the gameplay videos I saw. And even though it uses the CryEngine, the graphics are a far cry from the potential this engine can deliver. And this means the devs are not good enough to use the tools they've got, which does not speak well about the game itself.

Main issue I have so far are standard quests, no interesting story, and most importantly the feel the combat is painfully standard and grindy. I don't think the new groundbreaking features will be enough to keep people interested if the basics are not done well.

 

Id rather have youtube videos of players in the beta playing the game thanks to the lack of NDA than some dev selling hype in a video.

But maybe that's just me.

 

Standard quests aren't an problem, GW2 also has them.

And AA will also have Dynamic Events, don't worry you will still be able to dynamically kill 10 rats in AA.

No interesting story.... ehhh GW2 doesn't look to have an insteresting story either, it's a sandbox anyway.

Combat looks to be very similar to GW2, standard tab targetting.

But at least in AA you can use more than 5 skills :)

I would be more worried about GW2 getting really boring after 3 weeks when the shallowness of instanced PVP with no meaning and lack of any interesting sandbox stuff to do sets in.

I love how every asian game in existence has had this hardcore set of "believers" who think that the next new asian developed game coming out is going to "be the one" to convert western gamers over to the asian aesthetics, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

Why can't this hardcore set of fans just get over themselves & realise they are a small sub-set of a niche group already?

Maybe then they wouldn't set themselves up for so much disappointment.

Okay you love the game, that's nice for you, now wake up & smell the coffee & realise not too many others will & just go enjoy your niche & be happy instead of trying to proselytize the rest of the community thanks.

TLDR:

No it will not be, thanks.

If you don't like the game don't bother posting or trolling people. There is enough of you trolls and haters in every MMO forum all over. All you do is cry, troll and rage nothing else. If you have nothing smart or import to say, just don't say it.

No idea if this game will hit it big over her, but my god does it look good. I know this because all of the features promised are on YouTube gameplay vids for everyone to see. It's like everything dark and light was suppose to be in more. I used to fantasize about my perfect MMO, but more and more I find myself just thinking about archeage.

Wish it was out over here now, I would drop everything. 

Originally posted by Skuz

I love how every asian game in existence has had this hardcore set of "believers" who think that the next new asian developed game coming out is going to "be the one" to convert western gamers over to the asian aesthetics, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

This game doesn't have "over the top" aesthetics.

No slutty armors, no high heels, no huge swords, etc etc.

@skuz I'm not one of those "asian game believers" as you so eloquently put it. In fact I often strayed away from foreign made games because they rarely met my tastes. But I cannot deny what I'm seeing with my own eyes. This game is inspiring. I have to seriously question if you know anything at all about AA other than its being developed in Korea.

I for one have never quit a game because of the combat system.  While i did play Tera and admittedly, the combat in that game is insanely fun, it is not the only thing i look for in a game.  Archeage looks to have a lot of depth to it and creativity behind it.

Many people are unhappy with our current choices in non-linear style MMORPGs and for that reason, among others, Archeage looks to be an important title.  Heres to hoping things go well for them between now and that future release date!

 

Originally posted by Stalkerous

If you don't like the game don't bother posting or trolling people. There is enough of you trolls and haters in every MMO forum all over. All you do is cry, troll and rage nothing else. If you have nothing smart or import to say, just don't say it.

I'm not sure if your post was directed at me, but I have not said I hate the game at all.

I've not raged as such, I put my point across at a general subset of players that I see getting far too carried away with their little fantasies, I think the OP is being too optimistic & idealistic at far too early a stage in this title's embryonic life, as evidenced by the incredibly overconfident title, followed by the ebullience within his post.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing if this game really does depart from the usual fare from the region, because with such a large volume of titles from asia & such a massive proprtion being your basic shovelware it would actually be refreshing to see a standout asian title do well, I'm just advising a more realistic level of expectation because historically speaking so much crap has come from asia in MMO's.

Originally posted by drakaena
@skuz I'm not one of those "asian game believers" as you so eloquently put it. In fact I often strayed away from foreign made games because they rarely met my tastes. But I cannot deny what I'm seeing with my own eyes. This game is inspiring. I have to seriously question if you know anything at all about AA other than its being developed in Korea.

And what exactly causes you to think that I know nothing about the game?

I've followed it, albeit not avidly, and know it has a broad range of features it "wants to implement" such as player-made buildings, ship to ship, ship to sea monster combat, among a few other things.

Believe nothing of what you read, a quarter of what you hear & only half of what you see.....until this game is in an open beta I won't openly criticise it as I have no hands on experience, but getting all giggly, doe-eyed & sugar-rush excited about the game when at this point it has no release schedule outside of it's native market is both premature & silly.

Originally posted by spaceport

Originally posted by Skuz

I love how every asian game in existence has had this hardcore set of "believers" who think that the next new asian developed game coming out is going to "be the one" to convert western gamers over to the asian aesthetics, despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

This game doesn't have "over the top" aesthetics.

No slutty armors, no high heels, no huge swords, etc etc.

Points in it's favour if it does ever intend to release in the west, but no concrete plans of that at all yet.

@skuz the game was in its latest beta for months with no NDA. Everything you just mentioned was ingame and on prominent display. Hard to easily dismiss it as hype and wishful thinking.

The developers also said they are making the game with a western audience in mind. It's coming here. Only a matter of when.