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End of Nations Dev Journals: MMORTS 101: Class is in Session – End of Nations Overview

End of Nations is an MMORTS currently in development at Petroglyph Games. Co-Founder & Chief Creative Director Joe Bostick kicks off the inaugural End of Nations developer diary here at MMORPG.com with an examination of the defining characteristics of an MMORTS. The bell has rung and class has begun. Don't miss MMORTS 101.

By Guest Writer on July 21, 2010

Hi, we’re Petroglyph, developers of End of Nations, an upcoming MMORTS due out next year. The guys at MMORPG were nice enough to let us contribute a few developer diaries explaining exactly why you – the MMO gaming audience – should be excited about End of Nations.

So, what exactly is an MMORTS? Basically, it’s a game that incorporates many of the successful (and appropriate) elements of the MMO genre into a massive online RTS experience. Things like cooperative and competitive multiplayer, social features, player progression, loot, persistence, and metagame experiences.


The definitive MMORTS game has yet to see the light of day, but not for lack effort among some very talented game developers. We understand that MMO players have some pretty high standards when it comes to the MMO experience, so we’ve looked hard at what’s been done right, and not-so-right, within this particular genre to create the game MMO and RTS fans have been craving for so long.

Start at the Beginning: Persistence

Undeniably the most important MMO feature to get right is persistence. We want to make the player feel like they’re a part of a living, breathing and chaotic world. The Warroom is the player’s window on the world of End of Nations, giving the player a global combat map, social updates, a friends list, and much more. From the Warroom, players can jump in and out conflicts all over the globe at will; whether it’s helping friends defeat a boss or joining a group quest line for a sweet piece of loot. The point is that the battle is unending, and there is something happening in this game world 24/7.

With drop-in gameplay via the Warroom, travelling from place to place is seamless. Generally, players enter battlefields through accessing the world map. Thus, travel to the entry point of a battlefield is pretty much instant. Some battlefields are accessed through driving to a certain point in another battlefield, but these are more of the exception than the rule.

Your player HQ is also a persistent part of the MMO experience. This is an area that’s off the field of combat and invisible to other players, so when you’re sleeping the enemies you’re sure to make can’t come and blow it up. Your HQ is where you do manufacturing, which is very similar to crafting, using materials and plans you acquire to create new units and research super weapons. Research and development takes time, but you’ll see your HQ evolve every time you login, making it look exponentially more badass over your in-game lifetime. We’ll go into more down and dirty details about your HQ in a few weeks.

A Massive Player Base

What’s a massive world if it can’t hold a huge number of players? In EoN, we’re creating a world where thousands of players can play concurrently, something that has yet to be done successfully in previous MMORTS games. We haven’t reached a technical limit on the number of players on one map, but from a design standpoint, 50 players or so feels about right for the big test map we used. The game creates multiple copies of these public instances when some arbitrary playability threshold is met, much like the way Everquest II works. Private battlefields also create multiple instances, one for each group that enters, so the upper limit is more of a technical issue than a design issue.

MMO + RTS = MMORTS

End of Nations is 75% RTS, 75% MMO, and 25%-30% RPG. This totals to more than 100% because the MMO and RTS parts aren’t mutually exclusive, and even stand alone RTS games had some elements of role-playing already with unit veterancy and campaign game story-missions. The idea was to identify the aspects most enjoyed by players of both genres, making sure that whether you’re an RTS or MMO gamer, you’re going to find something to enjoy in End of Nations.

The nature of RTS games means that more skilled players will have an advantage over less skilled players, all other things being equal. In a PvP battlefield, this can be intimidating to new players and is the general reason why RTS games are so off-putting when it comes to online gameplay. With End of Nations, gameplay is primarily focused on PvE for commander advancement, story progression, missions, and MMO compulsion loops. Player skill generally affects the speed of progression rather than determining outright victory or loss. This means the player has a much more pleasant experience as they progress through the game than they would in a traditional RTS online experience. Whatever their skill level, the player progresses at the rate their ability allows without the demoralization of being repeatedly crushed by other players.

That being said, PvP is a core gameplay element in End of Nations, and those that enjoy that kind of experience will be well taken care of. Players are also free to eschew PvP entirely if they wish, and we believe there is a large majority of RTS players that fall into this category and are looking for a game like End of Nations to satisfy them.

What’s the Story on the Story?

We’ll be diving deep into the story a bit later on, but we can tell you there is an overall arch enemy in the Order of Nations (OoN), the tyrannical superpower that established control after the global meltdown. There will be countless opportunities to engage the OoN across a wide variety of challenge levels throughout the game. However, like any MMO game, the ultimate boss is never truly and completely defeated as the content such as battlefields, missions, and encounters must remain available for new players and even for existing player to revisit. There are mission chains that chronicle the player’s advancement through the story and thus, from the player’ individual perspective, the story advances.

That’s it for now, but please check back soon for the next installment in our series – the class overview!

More End of Nations Features:

End of Nations - End of Nations at Syndicon General Article added on Thursday August 26
End of Nations - MMORTS 101: The Class System Dev Journal added on Wednesday August 11
End of Nations - Gamer's Day Preview Preview added on Monday August 09

More Dev Journals:

TERA - Vanguards Lead the Way Dev Journal added on Thursday February 02
Rise of Immortals - Ukkonen - An 'Electrifying' Personality Dev Journal added on Saturday January 21
The Secret World - The Illuminati Dev Journal added on Tuesday January 10

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The List - Five Awesome MMO 'Mounts' Column added on Monday February 06
DC Universe Online - MMORPG.com Community Interview Interview added on Monday February 06
World of Darkness - CCP’s Plans to Dominate 2012 Interview added on Monday February 06
 
 
mrmeloni writes:

Created by the old westwood team members who brought us C&C Red Alert, before EA bought and dissolved them.

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7/21/10 12:46:39 PM
 
tavvra writes:

 

Jesus jumped up christ I can't wait!

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7/21/10 5:22:25 PM
 
LodenDSG writes:

gona have to play this one; love the RTS genere and there just hasn't been a reall RTS mmo or a real MMO rts how ever you prefer to look at it; they are always lacking in key parts of one of the 2 genre and it will be intresting to see if they manage it.

I think my only concern is that I for one like turtle play i.e. build a huge honk'n base that slowly and unstopably envelops and consumes. Now I cant see how thats going to be done in an MMO world (well I have some concepts but not in this one from what I have seen), seems more like a smaller element of units cooping against a supperior foe but fortress building is somthing I love in RTS games and here as of late has been a bit lacking in the genre over all

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7/21/10 7:56:28 PM
 
LrdHades writes:

Lords of the Dead (LotD) has an RTS fanbase, and we've wanted to expand operations to something other than a traditional MMORPG.  So far everything looks good, and we'll be keeping an eye on this game.

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7/21/10 8:07:22 PM
 
feena750 writes:

From what I have seen you don't build structures like normal RTSs.  You simply command a team of tanks and go on missions to blow stuff up, complete quests, and get loot.  It seems more like an action mmorpg with a team instead of one character.  My main worry is that nothing anyone does will effect the war.  I really hope there is territory control and a real meaninful conflict between players.

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7/21/10 8:17:15 PM
 
Scot writes:
Always good to see a new concept hitting the MMO scene. But the balance between PvE and PvP won’t be easy, they seemed to have dumbed down the impact of player skill as well.
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7/22/10 3:23:55 AM
 
Yamota writes:

Hm sounds like PvE is the main focus. Pity as the game sounds pretty good otherwise.

Also I dont think the game will be very popular if it is PvE focused. Most RTS games tend to be more PvP focused than RPGs.

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7/22/10 10:21:19 AM
 
Yamota writes:
Originally posted by feena750

From what I have seen you don't build structures like normal RTSs.  You simply command a team of tanks and go on missions to blow stuff up, complete quests, and get loot.  It seems more like an action mmorpg with a team instead of one character.  My main worry is that nothing anyone does will effect the war.  I really hope there is territory control and a real meaninful conflict between players.

Doubtful. Very few MMOG has meaningful PvP conflict. Basically Eve and Darkfall are the only ones that are even remotely known.

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7/22/10 10:22:53 AM
 
Preponerance writes:

Trion Worlds has 3 games in development.  And have 3 different studio locations.  Wonder if the work is filtered over the 3 or each studio does a different game.  Probably filtered

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7/22/10 10:26:08 AM
 
GrumpyMel2 writes:

Be interested to see how this goes. Only reason I'm not much of a fan of PvP in RTS is that it tends to be more of a click-fest contest then an actual test of strategy. On the other hand, I love turn-based PBEM strategy games. If the pacing is slow enough I could be interested though....

That's the real test of an RTS for me....if it's all about how quickly you can click around the map to make things happen...then it's not for me. If the game actual gives you a few minutes to sit back and think about your moves and strategy, that's key for me.

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7/22/10 12:38:56 PM
 
project8six writes:

I think his point is that RTS games are usually PVP  and the scenarios and story isn't really that big of deal usually.

waiting for some one still to make a 3d Dota type MMO. League of Ledgends is close, haven't played it thought just watched some gameplay.

 

on a side note shattered galaxy was a fun mmorts

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7/22/10 2:27:17 PM
 
Tyrantas writes:

Starcraft 2 has no subscription so i don't see why i should play this over sc2.

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7/22/10 5:35:03 PM
 
drel writes:
Originally posted by feena750

From what I have seen you don't build structures like normal RTSs.  You simply command a team of tanks and go on missions to blow stuff up, complete quests, and get loot.  It seems more like an action mmorpg with a team instead of one character.  My main worry is that nothing anyone does will effect the war.  I really hope there is territory control and a real meaninful conflict between players.

 I agree, that its too bad the focus is on this team of tanks and not a one character game.  For me, a one character game with this theme would be more interesting. But each to his/her own.

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7/23/10 4:42:04 AM
 
imran_tayab writes:
Originally posted by mrmeloni


Created by the old westwood team members who brought us C&C Red Alert, before EA bought and dissolved them.

 

Is this true? I was a big fan of Westwood studios and was reaally pissed when EA bought them out.

 

Definitely looking forward to this.

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7/24/10 6:44:21 AM
 
Luthor_X writes:

I do not see this genre flying in a subscription model... there are too many great RTS games out that do not require a sub to play.

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7/25/10 9:25:38 AM
 
Robokapp writes:

this time it's all about gameplay. can an mmo beat an RTS? this question alone will answer if the subscription is worth it.

 

if the gameplay is SC2 or better, then players will pay anything. If its not, they'll be eaten alive by SC2 and its 13-years old hype.

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