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  Neoyoshi

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Joined: 10/24/08
Posts: 26

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OP  1/07/13 10:11:43 PM#1
Tired of the unstable and unplayable game-service on the Vindictus servers? Let's see what this can do.


http://www.change.org/petitions/nexon-america-to-please-fix-and-or-upgrade-their-game-service-protocols-for-vindictus
  jimdandy26

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Posts: 559

1/08/13 12:18:45 AM#2
That is going to do diddly squat. Kudos for trying though!

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  Rayshe

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1/08/13 12:23:58 AM#3
The only way i could see this doing anything is if it came along with a kickstarter that says "here is your prize if you fix the servers"

Because i can.
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  Neoyoshi

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Joined: 10/24/08
Posts: 26

"I enjoy gaming with cupcakes"

 
OP  1/08/13 3:36:06 AM#4

Has anyone even ever tried speaking against Nexon? i mean they are just a Company filled with people. It's not like they are "God's" or anything.

 

Is it me or do people tend to assume nothing can be done?

  TwoThreeFour

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Joined: 3/26/12
Posts: 2148

1/08/13 3:46:01 AM#5
Originally posted by Neoyoshi

Has anyone even ever tried speaking against Nexon? i mean they are just a Company filled with people. It's not like they are "God's" or anything.

 

Is it me or do people tend to assume nothing can be done?

People who don't really have a reason to care as long as they are getting their paychecks. Working in the mmorpg industry for a publisher, is not exactly a dream job.  It is not like Nexon is SquareEnix.

  tawess

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Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 1993

1/08/13 4:08:34 AM#6

As long as people keep playing a petition will do jack n less... The only thing that will get the job done is a lenghty blockade.

 

Ofc that coudlspell the end for the game...

 

Also people act like it is a "quick fix" that the company is holding out on just to torment the players. There is a slight risk that the problem is not something that can be solved on the games current budget.

 

But petitoon away... i wish you the best fo luck...

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This have been a good conversation

  Neoyoshi

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Joined: 10/24/08
Posts: 26

"I enjoy gaming with cupcakes"

 
OP  1/08/13 4:14:28 AM#7
Originally posted by TwoThreeFour
Originally posted by Neoyoshi

Has anyone even ever tried speaking against Nexon? i mean they are just a Company filled with people. It's not like they are "God's" or anything.

 

Is it me or do people tend to assume nothing can be done?

People who don't really have a reason to care as long as they are getting their paychecks. Working in the mmorpg industry for a publisher, is not exactly a dream job.  It is not like Nexon is SquareEnix.

 

I understand, it's just frustrating seeing the type of attitude some people have (not here at MMORPG) towards this type of topic.

 

I do sympthyize with a certain level of peoples cynicism towards Nexon. The Vindictus forums is a cesspool from what i've been able to gather. Mostly from the lack of Moderation.

 

  Banquetto

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Joined: 10/06/09
Posts: 1027

1/08/13 4:18:38 AM#8

You get what you pay for.. with "Vindictus, the ultimate FREE fast action fighting massively multiplayer online game"

(emphasis theirs)

  AlBQuirky

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Joined: 1/24/05
Posts: 3191

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1/08/13 4:30:11 AM#9

I applaud your passion, but...


To:
Nexon America
I have played Vindictus since the start of Closed Beta and over the years the quality of the game servers have plummeted to various lows, and i am fed up with it.

But because i enjoy the game so much, i am not going to simply abandon it like others have.

Sincerely,
[Your name]


Can only closed beta testers sign this petition? That kind of limits those who can sign, doesn't it? Otherwise they are liars if they sign it.

If they cared, would this be a problem?
Are you paying them money or playing for free?
How about all the other signers?
What are you threatening them with if they don't comply with your demands of them?
What are you offering them if they do comply?
Do you think they are aware of the problems or not?

Nexon America is a business, not a Government agency that caters to special interest groups. Just like NCSoft (with the CoH closing petition), it does absolutely nothing. *You* have no say in the way they run their business, other than not playing their games. They don't answer to *you* or however many sign this. They answer to their board of directors and investors.

I have been in customer service for many years and know that customers that demand things from a business are the worst customers a business can have. They end up costing the business much more than they give back.

This reminds me of a "hot topic" awhile back in my community. Rush Limbaugh said something offensive. *gasp* Like that isn't to be expected. All these left wingnuts who never listen to the show, nor patronize his sponsors, threaten the local station that carries his show with what? To not listen and support the advertisers with their business that they don't even do now anyways?

Petitions have their place. And when used correctly, they can work wonders. Usually in letting the Government know that the populace so terribly represented by people they voted for is not happy. Petitions have NO place dictating to businesses how to run their show. None of them answer to *you* (general you, in this case).

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  MumboJumbo

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Joined: 7/18/10
Posts: 3174

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1/08/13 4:31:14 AM#10
Originally posted by Rayshe
The only way i could see this doing anything is if it came along with a kickstarter that says "here is your prize if you fix the servers"

I appreciate you're being flippant ;) but KS has rules which would not comply with this.

I'm honestly sceptical about a company offering a F2P mmorpg: Strikes me as very "disposable". Interested that SOE has proclaimed this is the future for their titles and to see how it works (same with PS2 and Red5's Firefall) - though for FPS-mmos maybe F2P is a better match?

  Dibdabs

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Joined: 5/29/08
Posts: 2454

1/08/13 5:36:51 AM#11
Your teeny-tiny petition will never even attract their attention.  You are utterly insignificant to them.  It's a FREE game, so  just delete it, forget it and move on.
  Cod_Eye

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1010

1/08/13 6:53:01 AM#12
Best way to voice your disaproval is not to play their game.
  itchmon

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1/08/13 6:57:26 AM#13
i cant speak of vindictus but i bet you'd get more signs if you included the main beefs of other nexon games.   for example the casino nature of atlantica's cash shop which is famous for driving people away from what is, at the core, a great game.

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  AtmaDarkwolf

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1/08/13 7:00:26 AM#14

LOL.

 

You really think what 10000, 100000 or even 1 million people say will influence how nexon does buisness?

 

U don't like how they treat thier customers, don't be a customer. Its simple as that.

 

NOTHING else will infuence them(And even thats HIGHLY unlikly) but at least as a non-customer, you will be free from thier bullshit.

  lizardbones

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Joined: 6/11/08
Posts: 10635

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1/08/13 7:35:28 AM#15

I get change.org emails on a regular basis. Here's a list of some petitions I have in my inbox right now:

* Women in the Democratic Republic of the Congo are routinely brutalized, ----ed and killed by the soldiers. The age of the women isn't relevant, they are all targets.

* Trying to get the FDA to approve a medication that allows children with a certain type of muscular dystrophy to walk, when it would otherwise be impossible.

* A horseback riding and therapy center for autistic children is trying to stop themselves from being shutdown because the bank sold the loan to a load company.

And then there's the petition in this thread.

If the game is bad, don't buy the game. That's the appropriate response in a free market economy.

For every large, complex problem, there is a simple, clear solution that also happens to be absolutely wrong.

  dinams

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Joined: 6/17/10
Posts: 1403

1/08/13 7:39:39 AM#16

Nexon america only fucks you now

Nexon america has been fucking me forever since their IP ban policy has went on air

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  Scalpless

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Joined: 3/22/07
Posts: 1301

1/08/13 7:44:48 AM#17
Doesn't Vindicus use peer2peer? Not that I've played it much or lately, but IIRC you only use Nexon's servers when you're in a town.
  Disdena

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Joined: 3/05/10
Posts: 1098

1/08/13 7:58:59 AM#18
Originally posted by AlBQuirky

I applaud your passion, but...


To:
Nexon America
I have played Vindictus since the start of Closed Beta and over the years the quality of the game servers have plummeted to various lows, and i am fed up with it.

But because i enjoy the game so much, i am not going to simply abandon it like others have.

Sincerely,
[Your name]


Can only closed beta testers sign this petition? That kind of limits those who can sign, doesn't it? Otherwise they are liars if they sign it.

If they cared, would this be a problem?
Are you paying them money or playing for free?
How about all the other signers?
What are you threatening them with if they don't comply with your demands of them?
What are you offering them if they do comply?
Do you think they are aware of the problems or not?

Nexon America is a business, not a Government agency that caters to special interest groups. Just like NCSoft (with the CoH closing petition), it does absolutely nothing. *You* have no say in the way they run their business, other than not playing their games. They don't answer to *you* or however many sign this. They answer to their board of directors and investors.

I have been in customer service for many years and know that customers that demand things from a business are the worst customers a business can have. They end up costing the business much more than they give back.

This reminds me of a "hot topic" awhile back in my community. Rush Limbaugh said something offensive. *gasp* Like that isn't to be expected. All these left wingnuts who never listen to the show, nor patronize his sponsors, threaten the local station that carries his show with what? To not listen and support the advertisers with their business that they don't even do now anyways?

Petitions have their place. And when used correctly, they can work wonders. Usually in letting the Government know that the populace so terribly represented by people they voted for is not happy. Petitions have NO place dictating to businesses how to run their show. None of them answer to *you* (general you, in this case).

I have quoted your post, and highlighted all the parts I agreed with in green.

  Warband

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Joined: 5/02/10
Posts: 735

1/10/13 8:28:21 AM#19
Originally posted by Scalpless
Doesn't Vindicus use peer2peer? Not that I've played it much or lately, but IIRC you only use Nexon's servers when you're in a town.

You use there servers in town and during royal raids, everything else you either host it yourself (which strains your internet) or use some elses (which strains theres). That means by it's very nature this will provide with you with an uneven lag though you an eliminate most of this by having a good internet connection and hosting stuff yourself.

 

However during times of high traffick (e.g new class or season), Nexon's match making system does crash preventing you from joining other peoples games or making your own.

  DukeDu

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Joined: 2/25/09
Posts: 71

1/15/13 8:11:04 PM#20
They IP block my country on top of that.
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