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Aika Forum » General Discussion » Whats the big hype on this game?

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  Firkrag

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Joined: 9/02/10
Posts: 14

10/12/10 12:57:46 PM#41
Originally posted by ElgrumPirate

One of 6 possible teenager's pran  personality is called sexy (or sassy or mature, depending of version), so those kind of pran's are called sexy, is not general name for all pran's. In fact, sexy pran's are rather rare sight in Aika (cause those personality is not easy to obtain).

 

Even if some purist or prudes may find some parts of game disturbing, it does not change my opinion. Aika is very good game to play for all, has some lacking points (even with quests leveling is too much grindy, very limited customization, gender locked classes,  too fast to reach end-game), but still has some nice or unique futures, lots of pvp activities, some funny and interesting areas (map looking like skull, penguins on desert ...) nice looking and very detailed gear, pran - cute and never boring companion. In global Aika you can add very good game support (gPotato lacked more in this area) and often game changes.

 See bub, these forums are not only about your or any other fanbois opinion alone. Anyone who wants to post their opinion about the game in its space can do so. When you fail to come up with even the most piss poorly acceptable response to the game's problem then you can do yourself a favour and stop trolling. And people like you call others narrow-minded?

Yes, it has been pointed out many times that this game got some mass PvP action, fast leveling, customizable armour, etc. Not like this is unique ONLY to AIKA, dozens of games atleast would have these features but whatever I guess, since you are trying to point out the reasons why this game should be played.

But what trolls or morons like you fail to understand, and I genuinely mean no offence by calling you such, but you have proved yourself already to be either a moron or a troll or both by simply not understanding why portraying child-like models into sexual themed roleplay is fundamentally wrong, so again what you fail to understand is that this game got no DIRECT TAG of including said child-like models into adult themed environments. Using children as sexual objects by itself is disgusting and criminal in nearly all parts of the world, whats worse is using child-like models with just enough restraint by means of innuendo so as to not be tagged as child pronography.

If there WAS any indication that this game would have semi naked female child pets, Yes in case your eyes are unable to see that or your mind goes into temporary denial mode let me repeat that I clearly meant semi naked female child pets, people would either steer well clear of this game or pedos (like you?) would nosedive into it just for that one reason alone. Not to mention the fanfare such a game would get if any notable reviewer brought it to the public attention that your child who might be playing AIKA has the option to run around with a semi naked female child pet, while being able to flirt with it in a constant questionnaire of sexual content would be enough to make these publishers on US soils run for the hills.

Now are you going to post something that actually responds to how this game is selling sex to minors as well as catering to pedophiles with borderline child pornography? But hold on here, your posts, as much as blatant trolling as they make look might have just given your Actual stand on this issue:

Originally posted by ElgrumPirate

 As i see from this thread, community generally very much likes mature/sexy prans.

Originally posted by ElgrumPirate

One of 6 possible teenager's pran  personality is called sexy (or sassy or mature, depending of version), so those kind of pran's are called sexy, is not general name for all pran's. In fact, sexy pran's are rather rare sight in Aika (cause those personality is not easy to obtain).

Originally posted by ElgrumPirate

 - horrible, let's ban all beaches, you can see there much more. Plus game contain female child pet, which is NEVER shown naked in game, NEVER shows any sexual behavior - horrible, lets shut down kindergartens and schools, there is lots of female children there.

Originally posted by ElgrumPirate

Nothing extraordinary for teenager girl (not mistake with child - on this link pran is showed in child form, while sounds comes from teenager form) to look more mature ('It is also the stage of life in which a child develops secondary sex characteristics (for example, a deeper voice and larger adam's apple in boys, and development of breasts and more curved and prominent hips in girls)') or talk in little erotic way, still very limited in Aika. 'Adolescents who have a good relationship with their parents are less likely to engage in various risk behaviors, such as smoking, drinking, fighting, and/or sexual intercourse.' - if teenage pran has erotic character - it must be from intentional choices of player, normally you will hardly get such pran.

 Yea Dr Ruth, you know so much about female anatomy of pixels. Fact that the prans here look like children dont matter, since your experience with pixilated children can give you the expertise to gauge their pixilated ages. And that part about where prans talk in little erotic way by virtue of teenage kicking in would imply that you mean pixels and set of pre-coded strings have endocrine systems by which pixilated hormones turn them into little floozies. As you have already agreed that AIKA uses teenaged child-like models that talk in little erotic way, noticeably your choice of word "erotic" means that the approach to children here(prans) is adult centered, right? Or if you dint mean it then why put it down in words and make yourself look like an utter and complete moron. So I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that you do have the least bit of intelligence and did indeed mean erotic / adult themed, when you used such said words.

Finally here you have said it yourself:  if teenage pran has erotic character - it must be from intentional choices of player.

So, You in your own words have said that if you want to make a sexy pran then the PLAYER, who might be a child of say 10 years or so, would need to respond to it with adult themed content. So this game would be making children playing this game reply to semi naked female child pets in a massively sexual approach to make them obtain a rare pran and prized just due to its rareness, and in your own words you put it as:  normally you will hardly get such pran /  In fact, sexy pran's are rather rare sight in Aika (cause those personality is not easy to obtain).

In midst of all those foot shifting and purposeful trolling you have personally agreed that this game sells sex to children while using child like models to do so. Do you have any comments other than trolling after agreeing to all this by your own words in that post?

 

If you want to reply then read the whole damn wall of post before saying something in reply. You seem to be having selective memory loss as well as the foot-in-mouth syndromes, but dont start giving showing signs of ADHD where you start trolling to posts without even reading them completely, ElgrumPirate.

  B1mble

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Joined: 10/04/10
Posts: 151

10/12/10 2:05:16 PM#42

"If there WAS any indication that this game would have semi naked female child pets, Yes in case your eyes are unable to see that or your mind goes into temporary denial mode let me repeat that I clearly meant semi naked female child pets, people would either steer well clear of this game or pedos (like you?) would nosedive into it just for that one reason alone."

 

Ya know I can see both sides of the argument and I guess it comes down to personal choice as to whether you play the game or protest and don't. 

Each to their own at the end of the day and everybody has a right to express their point of view hopefully in a mature way.   Your response I am afraid to say goes way way beyond the pale with regards to being vitriolic, venomous and just downright offensive, and as such does not warrant the courtesy of a coherent reply off myself or anybody else that decides to comment.

  Madimorga

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Posts: 2012

10/12/10 2:31:13 PM#43
Originally posted by B1mble

"If there WAS any indication that this game would have semi naked female child pets, Yes in case your eyes are unable to see that or your mind goes into temporary denial mode let me repeat that I clearly meant semi naked female child pets, people would either steer well clear of this game or pedos (like you?) would nosedive into it just for that one reason alone."

 

Ya know I can see both sides of the argument and I guess it comes down to personal choice as to whether you play the game or protest and don't. 

Each to their own at the end of the day and everybody has a right to express their point of view hopefully in a mature way.   Your response I am afraid to say goes way way beyond the pale with regards to being vitriolic, venomous and just downright offensive, and as such does not warrant the courtesy of a coherent reply off myself or anybody else that decides to comment.

 

 

No one said you couldn't post your opinion.  You want me to look at two sides, though?  Okay, how is this for two sides- if it weren't for the mature pran and the half-naked pran issue, I would probably still be playing this game.  It seemed pretty good except for that.  I can appreciate that the game has good elements.  But pedo elements, well, that's a deal breaker.  

 

I downloaded Aika and created an account over the summer, and it seemed pretty fun.  I ignored the lolita jokes because I assumed that the people making them were probably a bit oversensitive.  Surely no developers would risk a game being branded as a haven for pedophiles by putting semi-naked child pets who make sexual innuendos in their game!  That would be crazy!

 

Alas, my pran fairy showed up naked for her first day on the job.  Creepy, inappropriate, and definitely a reason to take a second look at the loli comments.  Maybe there was something to them after all.  So I went and did a bit of research, and sure enough, there is a type of teenage pran called the sexy or mature pran whose conversations are loaded with sexual innuendos.  And it isn't just the fairy who shows up half naked in the conversation icon.   

 

I was enjoying the game until I got my pran, despite the gender locked classes.  But I had to uninstall, and of course I let my kid know that Aika is one free to play game he won't be downloading.  

 

What a shame, it could have been a good game.  The developers should never have put those innuendos in the game, they should never have created the mature pran in the first place, and they should have put clothes on the pran conversation icon.  And, like Firkrag, I simply don't understand how anyone can defend these elements of the game.  

 

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  hardgames

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Joined: 9/24/10
Posts: 69

"Quiz time! <dances>" - Pran

10/12/10 11:03:05 PM#44

To firk and madi:

Let's start first with the more basic ones. I've read all the comments and I've seen the words semi-naked child pran and totally naked fairy pran. My simple answer to the first one would be, there are pran clothes available. In fact, there's a quest which gives you clothing for your child pran even before your fairy evolves to a child. My friend found it weird that they gave it that early and said "Huh? Why did they give me this clothes my pran isn't a child yet." Although now I realized because of this topic that the clothes was given early, probably so that you can dress her up as soon as she turns into a child. For the naked fairy, well maybe the developers may decide to dress them up as well? But they may opt not to. I mean, it's just a fairy. You won't see anything from her even if she's naked unless you really want to insert your own dirty mind into it.

Now for the more serious point, which is labeling the game for pedophiles. My question would be, how many of those people playing Aika are really pedophiles? Most likely, most of them, including myself, play the game because it is fun, and we didn't even notice those pedo issues you pointed out. We see our pran as a companion to help us when fighting monsters. A cute companion, that is :)

So it's really on how the players view it. Me, and most other Aika players, have clean minds and just enjoy the game. Perhaps there are pedos who just play the game because of those Prans? Then so be it. Leave them be in their own weird worlds. Most likely, the only ones who will notice this pedo issue are the pedophiles themselves, and some people who seem to be disturbed at something which a majority of people didn't even notice.

For firk, why don't you want your child to play it? Because perhaps he might notice what you noticed, which most of us, who are mature enough, didn't even notice? If so, then there's something wrong with your child if he noticed this pedo issue at such a young age instead of just viewing it as a fun game. And if he did, I think I know the reason why... (hint: the parent noticed it).

I really don't want to add that last paragraph but you seem to be attacking other people who are arguing against you. It's even forum rules that you shouldn't. I hope you stop attacking the person and present logical ideas instead. I believe I was able to properly address your concerns and answered it one by one.

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Currently playing: Aika Global, Atlantica Online
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  B1mble

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10/13/10 3:16:03 AM#45

@ Madmordiga

 

Please re-read my post.  I was not commenting on anybodies right to express an opinion.  I was commenting on the fact that someone went so far as to imply that another poster was a paedophile and by implication so was every other person that played Aika.

To my mind that went beyond simple flaming and entered the realms of the truly offensive.  As such it completely invalidated any comment said poster made.

 

As to the pran issue.... meh .....whatever.  I have more serious issues to waste mental energy on.  If Aika is fun then play it.  If it isn't or you find it sexualy offensive then don't. 

This whole thread reminds me of that sad pitifull minority that will watch a film all the way through, find it offensive, then write a strong letter to whatever newspaper will listen instead of just changing the channel.

  Madimorga

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Posts: 2012

10/13/10 8:06:18 PM#46

The pran is always shown without a shirt in the conversation icon, no matter what clothes she is wearing when you start conversing with her.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what the screenshots I've seen show.

 

But even so, I'm not calling anyone a pedo simply for playing this game.  I am very aware that many posters in the gpotato thread I posted preferred other pran to the mature pran and some even found the mature pran creepy.  Clearly they aren't even interested in having a 'sexy pran', so clearly there are players who aren't pedos.   I do not, however, understand why posters defend certain elements of the game.  

 

My problem with this game is twofold:  

 

1.  It does not have a mature rating.  It was me who mentioned having a son in a previous post, by the way.  And in case anyone was wondering, my kid is old enough to pick up on innuendos quite easily.  Sadly, his friends at school have filthy mouths.  There isn't much I can do about them.  

 

But that doesn't mean I want him playing a game which a.) has a female pet spouting sexual innuendos who is, even worse, clearly stated to be a child (i.e. under age 18) and b.) a game which may be a haven for pedophiles because of said pet.  The internet is unsafe and unsavory enough already.

 

2.  If the mature pran was an adult pran and if all of the underage pran wore clothing in their conversation icon and said and did nothing inappropriate until reaching adulthood, perhaps I would consider it an odd pet class, but I would not be disturbed by it.  I'm disturbed by the underage sexy pran because it makes me ask the question, why should anything that is represented to be a child in a game say or do anything of a sexual nature?  What purpose does that serve?

 

My fascination at this point is less with the game than with its defenders. 

 

The question still comes down to this:

 

Is it appropriate in a game that is not rated Adult Only to have a pet class who looks like a human child and who is represented to be a child and who makes sexual innuendos?

 

Is it appropriate in any game to have a pet class who looks like a human child and who is represented to be a child and who makes sexual innuendos? 

 

I answer both with a 'no' and therefore I do not play Aika.  How you answer is entirely up to you.  But if you answer yes to either or both, I would like to know why you think it is appropriate.

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  shysterclone

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Joined: 10/13/10
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10/13/10 9:08:29 PM#47

@Madimorga

 

Whether your pran is naked or not, I cannot quite remember, I quit after the update a while ago expanding the level limits, because it became too much of a grindfest.  However getting back to your point from what I remember your pran is naked but it only shows the head and upper shoulders nothing meaningful (again this is based off memory and could be wrong).  However even if your pran is ever fully naked, even if you do not have them wear clothes they are given a neglice, it never shows anythign meaningful, as in no sexual organs. 

As for the "sexy," "mature," or otherwise, those are mostly just how your pran talks, the voice over that it is given.  I never ended up gettting one of those my pran remained cute even after leveling up.  As such I cannot speak to the specific innuendos that those attitudes might have, but they are meant to give extra flavor to how you want to customize your character, or in this case your pran. 

Fundamentally this is a cutlure problem.  To begin with whether seeing a naked, but organless person is bad or not is something people have to decide for themselves.  In america I would say it is less accepted, but in asia and Japan where this game was made I believe, the generic "saturday morning cartoons"  as we would call them often have transformation sequences which have the character in question becoming completely naked, again minus organs, and their target audience is children. 

Also the whole "Pran" system in general is not meant to be a pedophile thing, but rather an incorporation of a certain type of Japanese game.  I forget their exact name but basically they are dating sims, you interact with girls and try to get them to fall in love with you.  Again something conceptually wierd for americans, but hugely popular in Japan.  As for the pran itself, the third level was not implemented before I quit, but at each stage the pran grows older.  She starts as a ten or so year old girl, then at level two ages to about fourteen, fifteen, and at level three should end somewhere around sixteen or eighteen.  The whole idea that someone is a child when they are seventeen and three hundred and sixty four days, but an adult when they are one day older and eighteen is a totally arbitrary idea anyways.

Getting to your numbers problems (I do not have children and cannot imagine your specific worries about them, as such this may sound insensative or offense):

 

1.  People who rely on ratings when dealing with children are fools.  Just look at the history of the movie and tv rating system in america.  Back in the day even saying damn, or some minor kind of death (related to horror movies) would pretty much guarentee a movie a R rating.  Now a days anything short of the F word, and as long as there is no explict sexual content will pass as pg-13.  In regards to tv up until ten years ago you could barely swear at all, now if it is late enough 10pm you can get aways with saying the F world on cable tv. 

My point is that ratings, and the systems that govern them change so if you want control over what your kid sees or does, check it out yourself. 

As for innuendos I did not see how young you said your child was, but in my experience being ignorant of things generally causes more problems than being knowledgable about them.

As for the internet, if you believe that any part of the internet is safe and child appropriate I would say you have missed something along the way.  I would go on to argue that the more safe you think a place might be, as do not know you so this is only a guess,  such as typical childrens websites, like disney or whatever, will be even more likely to attract those undesierables.  The place were children congregate tends to be where pedophiles also gather, parks, schools, etc... On the other hand a game that is fundamentally for hardcore pvp'ing does not lend much time to trolling for school children.

 

2.  As I already mentioned above most of the conversation shots are shoulders and above.  And just to clarify things a Pran is technically a fairy, and as long as something is not human, regardless of how it may appear (for purposes of age) it should not matter.  Who knows how the internal structure of faries works?  Maybe by age ten they have equal intelligence and mental exeperience to a twenty five year old adult.  As for the purpose of a pran, rather than it being a "pet" it is more a companion that is always with you, cheering you on, helping you out.  As I said before this is at its core a culture difference the very fact that you assumed it was a pet, rather than a companion shows where you draw your lines.  By the way that was not ment to insult, but rather to point out the differences.

 

In closing I am not trying to convince you to play this game for yourself and your own enjoyment I understand that you seem to find it morally bankrupt.  However if you were thinking of letting your child play it, rather than basing you ideas and conclusions on other peoples ideas and conclusions play for yourself a bit, understand the game, the idea behind it, and judge for yourself what you think. 

 

As an aside when did it become okay for children to play games where death and killing has no consequence at all, but "sexual innuendos" are "oh my god" totally inappropriate.  I am not saying either way is correct just that all of your issues with this game were regarding something of little consequence, a companion who comes along with you and makes soloing less boring.  Rather than the giant realm versus realm battles that constantly engulf the game, and the dead bodies littering the high traffic battle areas, that are the dominate concept behind the game.

*Edited spelling errors

  Madimorga

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Joined: 5/26/10
Posts: 2012

10/13/10 9:39:45 PM#48
Originally posted by shysterclone

@Madimorga

 

Whether your pran is naked or not, I cannot quite remember, I quit after the update a while ago expanding the level limits, because it became too much of a grindfest.  However getting back to your point from what I remember your pran is naked but it only shows the head and upper shoulders nothing meaningful (again this is based off memory and could be wrong).  However even if your pran is ever fully naked, even if you do not have them wear clothes they are given a neglice, it never shows anythign meaningful, as in no sexual organs. 

 

You are correct, none of the conversation icons show anything meaningful, but the pran does appear to be naked, at least from the waist up, and the question is, why?  

 

As for the "sexy," "mature," or otherwise, those are mostly just how your pran talks, the voice over that it is given.  I never ended up gettting one of those my pran remained cute even after leveling up.  As such I cannot speak to the specific innuendos that those attitudes might have, but they are meant to give extra flavor to how you want to customize your character, or in this case your pran. 

 

I posted a youtube link with the things the sexy pran says.  Her conversation is loaded with innuendos.  It's not merely the sound of her voice, it's what she says. 

 

Fundamentally this is a cutlure problem.  To begin with whether seeing a naked, but organless person is bad or not is something people have to decide for themselves.  In america I would say it is less accepted, but in asia and Japan where this game was made I believe, the generic "saturday morning cartoons"  as we would call them often have transformation sequences which have the character in question becoming completely naked, again minus organs, and their target audience is children. 

 

You are right, the nudity is partially a cultural issue.  One the devs/distributors were surely aware of before they brought this product to the west.  I'm puzzled that they risked criticism by failing to edit accordingly.

 

Also the whole "Pran" system in general is not meant to be a pedophile thing, but rather an incorporation of a certain type of Japanese game.  I forget their exact name but basically they are dating sims, you interact with girls and try to get them to fall in love with you.  Again something conceptually wierd for americans, but hugely popular in Japan.  As for the pran itself, the third level was not implemented before I quit, but at each stage the pran grows older.  She starts as a ten or so year old girl, then at level two ages to about fourteen, fifteen, and at level three should end somewhere around sixteen or eighteen.  The whole idea that someone is a child when they are seventeen and three hundred and sixty four days, but an adult when they are one day older and eighteen is a totally arbitrary idea anyways.

 

Again, I don't care what adults do with other consenting adults or with pixels of adults.  But these pixels represent children.  They look like children and for the most part they act like children.  And the developers decided to make a pran that looked and acted like a child but who also makes sexual innuendos.  And as far as I know from what I've read, no adult pran yet exists.  You mention Japanese culture, but you didn't mention lolicon.  Which is apparently all the rage in many Asian cultures at the moment.  Lolicon describes an attraction to underage girls.  And yes, I know the name derives from a western novel.  

 

Getting to your numbers problems (I do not have children and cannot imagine your specific worries about them, as such this may sound insensative or offense):

 

1.  People who rely on ratings when dealing with children are fools.  Just look at the history of the movie and tv rating system in america.  Back in the day even saying damn, or some minor kind of death (related to horror movies) would pretty much guarentee a movie a R rating.  Now a days anything short of the F word, and as long as there is no explict sexual content will pass as pg-13.  In regards to tv up until ten years ago you could barely swear at all, now if it is late enough 10pm you can get aways with saying the F world on cable tv. 

My point is that ratings, and the systems that govern them change so if you want control over what your kid sees or does, check it out yourself. 

As for innuendos I did not see how young you said your child was, but in my experience being ignorant of things generally causes more problems than being knowledgable about them.

As for the internet, if you believe that any part of the internet is safe and child appropriate I would say you have missed something along the way.  I would go on to argue that the more safe you think a place might be, as do not know you so this is only a guess,  such as typical childrens websites, like disney or whatever, will be even more likely to attract those undesierables.  The place were children congregate tends to be where pedophiles also gather, parks, schools, etc... On the other hand a game that is fundamentally for hardcore pvp'ing does not lend much time to trolling for school children.

 

The internet isn't safe, and ratings are not a complete guarantee of content, you are correct.  But ratings are better than nothing, and if Aika specifically draws pedos, then interaction with a pedo in the game becomes statistically more likely than in games that don't specifically draw pedos.

 

2.  As I already mentioned above most of the conversation shots are shoulders and above.  And just to clarify things a Pran is technically a fairy, and as long as something is not human, regardless of how it may appear (for purposes of age) it should not matter.  Who knows how the internal structure of faries works?  Maybe by age ten they have equal intelligence and mental exeperience to a twenty five year old adult.  As for the purpose of a pran, rather than it being a "pet" it is more a companion that is always with you, cheering you on, helping you out.  As I said before this is at its core a culture difference the very fact that you assumed it was a pet, rather than a companion shows where you draw your lines.  By the way that was not ment to insult, but rather to point out the differences.

 

If it looks like a human child and acts like a human child, it's a representation of a human child and should, in my opinion. be treated appropriately.  And 'pet' is the term I use because I'm familiar with it from other MMOs that have 'pet classes'.  

 

In closing I am not trying to convince you to play this game for yourself and your own enjoyment I understand that you seem to find it morally bankrupt.  However if you were thinking of letting your child play it, rather than basing you ideas and conclusions on other peoples ideas and conclusions play for yourself a bit, understand the game, the idea behind it, and judge for yourself what you think. 

 

I did play Aika for a bit, and I did decide it is not suitable for my child.  I also don't find it suitable for adults, and so I stopped playing.

 

As an aside when did it become okay for children to play games where death and killing has no consequence at all, but "sexual innuendos" are "oh my god" totally inappropriate.  I am not saying either way is correct just that all of your issues with this game were regarding something of little consequence, a companion who comes along with you and makes soloing less boring.  Rather than the giant realm versus realm battles that constantly engulf the game, and the dead bodies littering the high traffic battle areas, that are the dominate concept behind the game.

 

I already acknowledged the American hypocrisy in regards to violence in games in another thread.  I'm guilty of it.  However, I don't consider a pet class in a game that looks and acts like a child and is represented as a child and who makes sexual innuendos to be 'of little consequence'.  I find it quite disturbing and a serious matter worthy of serious discussion, which you have provided, and I thank you.

*Edited spelling errors

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  hardgames

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"Quiz time! <dances>" - Pran

10/13/10 10:52:17 PM#49

I think this discussion will not end unless someone ends it. I can still argue with what you presented, and you weren't able to address many of the points that I mentioned earlier, either.

However, I don't think anyone will be convinced to believe the side of the other. So let's just finish this discussion as is. If there are people who believe that Aika is for pedophiles, or should have a mature rating, or whatever complaints, then fine. To those people like us who just play the game because it's fun and who are mature enough to not put dirty thoughts in any of the contents in Aika, then let's just play and enjoy the game.

Bottom line, we all have our own opinions. Some may be right, some may be wrong. But if it's really impossible to correct things or convince one side, then we should just end the discussion since it may result to flaming and attacking people. Peace out! :)

Played: Runescape, Adventure Quest
Currently playing: Aika Global, Atlantica Online
Waiting for: Cardmon Hero, Dynasty Warriors Online

  Madimorga

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10/14/10 10:08:54 AM#50
Originally posted by hardgames

 

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To those people like us who just play the game because it's fun and who are mature enough to not put dirty thoughts in any of the contents in Aika, then let's just play and enjoy the game.

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The devs put the sexual innuendos into the conversations of the mature teen pran.  It's not fair to blame players for picking up on those innuendos and making judgments about the game based on them.  How each of us does judge the game by that content is indeed up to each of us.  

 

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  Flyingbottle

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Where is it? Where is the thump-thump?

10/15/10 2:04:07 AM#51

It depends really on how one understands it. Don't play it or don't recommend it if you think there's something wrong with the pet system. PVP environment feels great though. I can't argue with that :)

"The world's still the same - there's just less in it."

  Daitengu

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10/15/10 2:15:59 AM#52

Loli pet faeries are amusing to me. Yet, the combat is pretty classic, limited customization, locked sexes to particular classes. The grind is pretty obvious.  it's only really afloat because of the fairy gimic.

  Firkrag

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10/15/10 4:48:01 PM#53
Originally posted by B1mble

Ya know I can see both sides of the argument and I guess it comes down to personal choice as to whether you play the game or protest and don't. 

Each to their own at the end of the day and everybody has a right to express their point of view hopefully in a mature way.   Your response I am afraid to say goes way way beyond the pale with regards to being vitriolic, venomous and just downright offensive, and as such does not warrant the courtesy of a coherent reply off myself or anybody else that decides to comment.

 Yes, I am totally aware of the fact that I wrote that post in a very uncivilized manner, for that I must apologize to those civilized people who took offence to it. The only reason why I would have constructed that post in such an offensive manner is because of anything short of being right down to the point is taken pot shots at and ridiculed by people who might not have the patience to read beyond two lines when their current game of interest comes under heat, the people I am talking about are commonly referred to as fanbois over these forums.

If you started reading this thread at page 5 and thought the highlight of my post was to imply that every other person who played AIKA was a pedophile, then your point couldnt have been more moot to begin with. I have already commented on how this game might be good for the Realm VS Realm fights (among other things) which is much like the wars in DAoC, the reason why I and a good deal of people I knew in game tried this game for anyway. It wasnt the PRANs and any such BS, most of us did not even know of such things when we went on to try this game out at OB.

"If there WAS any indication that this game would have.."

IF there was any description in the ads or on the gamesite that this game was purposefully built with a child like model throwing out sexual content, if these remarks were made by the developers or the publishers, do you think anyone in their right frame of mind would play this game? If they did play it would be only curiosity to see what this sexual content was like or there would be people who would play it for this reason alone. Either way, both can be considered pedophiles, there is no other milder way to put it. Not to mention any game with such a tag would be nailed by activists if they launched in any country, since most have very stringent laws against child pornography. You better learn to read please before jumping to conclusions based on one paragraph alone. Just so you dont start misunderstanding this paragraph, I dont mean to attack you but I politely urge you to read before letting your self righteousness get the better part of you.

Not once have I implied ONLY pedophiles play AIKA, stop putting words into my mouth. But the poster to whom my post was directed at, constantly and zealously defended anything and everything that showed this game to be tailored to such deviant people that it did beg a thought about what were the reasons he plays this game. Moreover by the terminology of HIS words and not mine does it show his casual stance on the topic concerning this paraphila. You could forever keep trying to decipher my post for whatever I might have implied and much much more of what I never once in a single post intended. But how on earth did you miss out on what the other poster was trying to say in his own words? Who are you trying to fool with this gimmick? I am not attacking you for trying to see what you Want to see, but I only ask you to read the previous four pages and find out at where the personal attacks and name calling begins and by whom it is done and the generalization of tagging anyone who disagrees with AIKA being anything less than a wholemeal family game to being a prude. You might wanna read up a bit before starting to play the role of a defender of forum chastity or somesuch. Otherwise your post seems too self righteous for its own good.

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Finally, I came here to post what I did because of not my children going gaga over this game. But because my colleague's ten year old son asked him to help him a new online game because he was dying a lot there. When my colleague had a look at what was going on, he was shocked to find his son running around with a naked priest, without any armour on. So mobs had the higher hand in deciding who lives through a normal mob fight. Reason why he had taken off her armour, the starter ones, was because he liked the way the priest looked without anything on. And yes, the game he was playing wasnt some sleazebag M tagged timewaster, but AIKA.

Its not like my colleague's son is a trouble child or got any personality issues, he is just an ordinary 10 year old boy who spends a little bit of time playing games before heading to bed. But the shock to have found him behaving in such a way without even realizing that he is being drawn into something totally out of his age bracket is awful. How did his son come to know what lay underneath the armour? I dont know. Why did the boy take a liking to the semi naked priest character, I dont know that either. But the fact that this game got such a massive load of sexual innuendos enough to make a normal 10 year old behave in such a manner was what made me post about it on this forum.

I played this game for less than a month after Gpotato's OB started; I did not care enough to post about it back then when I quit. But recently when my collegue expressed his concern over his son and this game did I come and post about my personal experience while playing this game and not any lies or stories to make this game look bad. And after receiving a good bit of ridicule by people blind enough not to see the innuendos on one end of the moral spectrum and then people who try to shun my determined opinion calling it immature or vile without trying to read up on what it takes to make a person resort to stop beating the dead horse on saying the same thing over and over again on the other end of the spectrum, I have to take my leave here. I made my point and said what I wanted to, so whether anyone wants to attack me for it or ridicule me, I am least concerned. I am done posting in this thread that has gone bad to worse, you can only beat a horse so much.

As for being harsh about pedophiles; You must be an utter imbecile to go soft on such people. Mere possession of child pornography is enough to get you locked up till your nails rot. And as for this game which is banking on selling subliminal child pornography fluff shouldnt be spared in the least bit from getting the short end if it ever slips up in masking this disguisting load of subliminal BS.

For the record, yes you can ignore everything sexually intended in this game. Just like me, I dint give two shits for this game after I quit playing it since I wasnt going to take some korean company and its overseas publisher to court over something that cannont be proved in a court of law. This matter is more concerning a moral outlook than something judicial. So I stopped this game with a single post regarding this on the game forum and never looked back at this till posted here.

 But what about when something truly vile and offensive like this game turns your son, brother, relative, friend or anyone you have the least bit of concern about into a failure of a human being, would you still have the same "Dont Look, Dont Tell" attitude? It might affect just one person, among the thousands who have played this game, just like a single grain of sand in a vast desert. But when its someone who you might be personally acquianted to, would you still not care when their life might be ruined? Think about it.

  B1mble

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10/16/10 5:35:36 AM#54

"If there WAS any indication that this game would have semi naked female child pets, Yes in case your eyes are unable to see that or your mind goes into temporary denial mode let me repeat that I clearly meant semi naked female child pets, people would either steer well clear of this game or pedos (like you?) would nosedive into it just for that one reason alone."

 

Sorry but you did imply that a) people would steer clear of it and that b) pedos would nosedive into it.  Although it was an unwarranted personal attack on another poster, this statement DOES imply that only pedo's play this game.

 

Finally as my final reply to you.  You have nothing important to say that is of any relevence to someone who doesn't share your offensive zealotry.  By all means feel free to continue with your foaming at the mouth rants but dont expect anyone to give them any attention or credence.  

If you dont like the game dont play it.  Its is as simple as that.

  Madimorga

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10/16/10 9:17:02 AM#55
Originally posted by B1mble

"If there WAS any indication that this game would have semi naked female child pets, Yes in case your eyes are unable to see that or your mind goes into temporary denial mode let me repeat that I clearly meant semi naked female child pets, people would either steer well clear of this game or pedos (like you?) would nosedive into it just for that one reason alone."

 

Sorry but you did imply that a) people would steer clear of it and that b) pedos would nosedive into it.  Although it was an unwarranted personal attack on another poster, this statement DOES imply that only pedo's play this game.

 

Finally as my final reply to you.  You have nothing important to say that is of any relevence to someone who doesn't share your offensive zealotry.  By all means feel free to continue with your foaming at the mouth rants but dont expect anyone to give them any attention or credence.  

If you dont like the game dont play it.  Its is as simple as that.

 

I think he meant, if the game had been marketed as having semi naked female child pets who spout sexual innuendo, then the only people who would have been interested in playing it would have been pedophiles.  And I think that's true.  Everyone else would have steered well clear of Aika.  And the outrage and probably the ban hammer would have come down pretty quickly in many countries.  But the game wasn't marketed that way.  And, as many have pointed out, it's even difficult to get the innuendo spouting pran.  And so lots of perfectly ordinary people play, and the game has no rating at all.  

 

There's only one reason I'm not raising a fuss to get an Adult Only rating slapped on this game and to get the sexy teen pran completely removed from the game.  Sadly, the type of people in my country I would need to speak with about Aika are not to be trusted with the ban hammer.  They are mostly rightwing Christians, and they would love to be able to ban any game, for anyone, for any reason.  It is because of these zealots who wish to dictate what is wrong and what is right for adults to see and do that your game is safe from the likes of me.     

I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.

~Albert Einstein

  Daitengu

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10/16/10 9:40:27 AM#56

You guys are amusing. I personally didn't like the gameplay, which is why I quit. But the pedo thing is just hysterical. I mean hell, there's half naked orc kids runnin around in the barrens in WoW. Seriously though, the pran is a damn fairy, It's the largest fairy in any game or movie that I've seen, but what ever. The sexual innuendo part comes in only after the fairy hits teenage(listen to teens talk, they talk like adults). The fairy version talks like a 5  yr old, the child version talks like a 11 yr old, the teen version talks like a damn teen. More amusing is that in RL I have a 5 foot nothin' Vietnamese American friend(girl) who's 31, but she looks like she's 13. That school girl costume she wore 3 years ago def made me feel like a pedo though lol

 

To the guy who's colleague has a 10 yr old boy: There's less clothing on the non geared female characters in WoW, EQ, D&D and even Guild wars as examples. I thought the priest's underwear was conservative in comparison, if not nice in it's own right as it was more than just panties and a bra. Hell that priest had more clothing naked than Cheetara in thundercats lol.

  Logos1326

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10/17/10 3:11:25 PM#57

for real.. dude has serious issues and needs to take a break from gaming for a while. Seems like every game I try has someone streaking around a town in their underwear, convos in chat far worse than anything one of these fairies would say, and old farts that play as very young looking females, among other things. Guy really needs to talk to his colleague if it bothers him so much. It is after all his colleague's kid, not his... or talk to a politician, I'm sure he could find one somewhere in favor of more censorship.

Anyways, to get back on topic, Aika was fun. I left when it started feeling like a grind. Of course I don't pvp much and that's where Aika is supposed to shine. The pran pet did keep me into the game for a while. Had nothing to do with sex either, what was cool was having a fairy pet that has attitude changes according to how you treat it, can't think of another mmo that has a similar pet growth system. For an Asian mmo, Aika ran pretty smooth, had decent english translation, and was easy to get into.

  valglan

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11/01/10 10:34:19 AM#58

Well from reading some of the more intersting post, I can definatly tell this game needs more Nipple luv, I mean come one, maybe we can tie bows to them or something, I am not opposed to little leashes maybe, then again we could just as well have all the men running arround nude as well, that would better suite me, I dont understand wny people have such a hard time with the human form, we have all seen it, we all have it, to some degree or another, so why not embrace it.  Perversion is one thing, seeing things as they are is another.  Get over yourselves, maybe if you where so worried about teaching everone that its something to be ashamed of we would be better off....

Oh yes the game, have to say I love it, great graphics, its got some balancing  issues and game mechanics that are in need of tweeks but .... what do you expect, its not even a year old.

  sorrysoldout

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11/04/10 3:19:59 AM#59

yes, the game isn't even a year old. embrace the human form! :))

you're a has been that never was

  Vyeth

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11/06/10 2:00:26 AM#60

Gender lock = fail.. Point blank and simple.. It's an old concept that not even most newer F2P's follow anymore and now that we are in an age where the F2P market is increasingly being blended in with the P2P quality, Gender locks are simply unacceptable.. It's a lazy way to avoid having to make 2 sets of armors (M,F) and forcing people to run around as a scantly clad female (while tasteful to your average campus bachelor) is  a pretty severe case of "lacking customization".

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