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From mmocrunch.com:
Bluehole Studios, the newly formed developers of TERA are to compensate NCSoft for the sum of 2 billion Wons(approximately 1,721,836.820 USD) for plagiarizing Lineage 3’s source code. This decision was made by the Seoul Central District Court after they found the former development director of Lineage 3 guilty. According to Bluehole, they are not satisfied with the judgement, and will lodge an appeal immediately. It is still unknown whether this will affect the development of TERA, or the existence of Bluehole, and NCSoft have yet to make an official statement on the case. The reason behind the case is the fact that Mr. Kang and Mr. Yo, former developers for Lineage 3, used some of the technologies copyrighted by NCSoft after the project’s cancellation, in their latest game – TERA.
Also from mmosite.com:
In terms of Lineage 3's code disclosure lawsuit, the South Korean court has recently ruled that the 4 core developers of Lineage 3 (including the former development director) and their current employer Bluehole Studio should compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons.
This is the civil ruling, following the criminal one in which the core developers of Bluehole Studio were found guilty (on Jun. 26, 2009, the Seoul Central District Court sentenced the former development director of Lineage 3 - Mr. Park to a fixed-term imprisonment of one and a half years with a 2-year suspension of execution for malfeasance and disclosure of business secrets). According to Bluehole Studio, they're not satisfied with the judgement, and will lodge an appeal immediately.
On Jan. 28, the civil department of the Seoul Central District Court rendered a verdict and required the 4 involved defendants including Mr. Park to compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons. Meanwhile, the defendants were also ordered not to disclose NCsoft's business secrets to any others, but clear up all related data in hand.
Though at present, NCsoft wins the lawsuit no matter in the criminal judgement or in the civil one, it's still unknown if the MMORPG TERA under development by Bluehole Studio will be fatally affected.
Relevant EventMr. Park, formerly in charge of Lineage 3's development, got in touch with a Japanese company in 2006 with the aim of attracting investment, and disclosed certain plans related to Lineage 3. Mr. Bae, who was responsible for other projects at that time, was also involved in this matter. Moreover, the former developers of Lineage 3 including Mr. Kang and Mr. Yoswitched over to Bluehole Studio after the cancelation of Lineage 3, and applied certain technologies originally adopted in the development of Lineage 3 in Bluehole Studio's new project - Project S1 (currently named TERA).
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1/29/10 8:38:32 AM#2
lol!1.7 billion $!if that company as to pay that tera will never get released nobody in their right mind would release this and accept to pay it will be cheapper to build a new game.espacially since todays game need these 3 techno to be considered massive dx11 microsoft donnybrook 64 bit i doubt l3 code had any of those so its not worth 1.7 billion $ i do hope tho that korea stay very firm in this ruling since the offence them selves are very crippling for any game maker be it ncsoft or any other brand name.what those guys did WAS illegal and criminal always need to be punished way more severly then just the slap on the wrist korea court gave employe.the fine is ok .its the 1.5 year in prison that is too little since it take around 4 years to dev a game they should have been sentenced to 4 year in prison! |
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1/29/10 8:41:17 AM#3
NICE! I thought... how could a country let someone blatantly steal a games source code and make a new game for profit with it. Maybe NCSoft will buy up Tera and release it...
The thieves deserves everything coming to them.
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1/29/10 8:44:01 AM#4
Originally posted by drbaltazar
Balt, you seriously need to learn what those things mean before quoting them. [Mod edit] |
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1/29/10 8:47:56 AM#5
Originally posted by ProfRed
tera isnt worth anything for ncsoft!they would end up the way soe bacame once they baught vanguard ncsoft is better off making sure the blue company never ever publish any title again so they dont cripple other brand the way ncsoft is being crippled by having their lineage 3 program stolen because if blue get away with it ,it will scrap korean game making industry that is just starting to have a good reputation and reputation in that industry is very important. |
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1/29/10 8:49:02 AM#6
It is sad because Tera looked like it was coming along nicely.
Don't fret though guys. This game won't just die off. It will be sold, or finished, and it will release. Just maybe not with bluehole. |
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1/29/10 8:51:38 AM#7
Originally posted by ProfRed
Its entirely probable that NCsoft will take control of the game in leue of payment, unless of course, they actually have the money their being fined.... |
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1/29/10 8:51:51 AM#8
Originally posted by drbaltazar
You need to take a closer look at the op. It says $1.7 million not billion. Mr. Bagguns |
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1/29/10 8:52:21 AM#9
Yeah hope the game still gets released and blue hole should have tried negotiating with ncsoft for the stolen codes maybe they would of gotten with less money lost but oh well we can only hope and pray for now lol. |
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1/29/10 8:53:13 AM#10
Originally posted by Bagguns
You need to take a closer look at the op. It says $1.7 million not billion.
still, as amounts go, it might as well be a billion.... as i dont think they have 1.7 million either, and i can't see them getting a loan |
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1/29/10 8:55:44 AM#11
?what part of dx11 ,donnybrook,and 64 bit ?was there something you didnt understand ,i ll explain my view of it dx11 for the bandwith(this means no tessalation!) 64 bit same thing bandwith,it wouldnt rise fps true.but it would permit you to play at higher graphic setting microsoft donnybrook.basicly it makes you control a bot so you get very little data trough the internet.only the actual coordinate and various other info.so instead of needing to send 500 kb/s of data with donnybrook you would probably send only 75 kb/s of data .
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1/29/10 9:01:09 AM#12
too bad l3 was just killed and not re started. l2 was fun for a time.
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1/29/10 9:01:27 AM#13
Originally posted by Baggs
You obviously don't know how the world works. Those guys who got fired from NCsoft were PAID to develop that code, they never owned it therefore they had no right to use it. You think that it is outrageous for criminals to be punished? Mr. Bagguns |
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1/29/10 9:01:51 AM#14
Wow this is pretty big news. Wonder what will become of Tera. They might of been fired and to be a bastard I would of done the same too and took the code too no way I would leave the company with my work. However, they probably signed something saying that NCSoft owns everything they did. Hopefully, the appeal will go thru. 1.8 Million US isn't too bad. Even though the judge ruled agaisnt them, wonder if that will mean for them to stop the production of the game. |
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1/29/10 9:03:19 AM#15
Originally posted by drbaltazar that fails on so many points i really dont know where to begin.... honestly, unless your intending to take several courses on IP and programming, just for a starter.. i'd stay away from trying to understand the technical side of things. |
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1/29/10 9:04:18 AM#16
Originally posted by Bagguns
You obviously don't know how the world works. Those guys who got fired from NCsoft were PAID to develop that code, they never owned it therefore they had no right to use it. You think that it is outrageous for criminals to be punished? This. Developers working for software companies rarely have any rights on what they produce, it's all clear when you get hired, your work goes for the company, that's what you get paid for, lines of code. |
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1/29/10 9:07:25 AM#17
Originally posted by EricDanie This. Developers working for software companies rarely have any rights on what they produce, it's all clear when you get hired, your work goes for the company, that's what you get paid for, lines of code. /nod and if they're like me.. you had to sign something before you started basically saying you wouldn't do this same thing. |
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1/29/10 9:07:52 AM#18
those guys when they were employed signed sheet ton of them ,basicly saying what happens in ncsoft STAYS in ncsoft! it didnt stay in ncsoft so they stole ncsoft !if they wanted to start their own firm they should have done so before going to get hired to another firm lol when you make processor at intel factory do you get to sell secret from intel to ibm or amd of caurse not you can be suied and go to prison for a long while like you !you want to do a game to compete against ncsoft,no problem do it with your own money dont go get hired by ncsoft then after that try to sell that to a small company lol.whatever he think as soon as he use program from ncsoft it is called stealing and for ncsoft very easy to prove. its not like there are no other ways to do game lol.but its way faster and easier to use stuff your not allowed to since it would take years to start from scratch.and they would probably be fired again because of poor result i do hope they go to prison for the same amount of time it took them at ncsoft to make l3 code that what they deserve .
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Kyleran
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1/29/10 9:07:58 AM#19
Originally posted by drbaltazar
You post this same thing in every forum on this site. Do you know of any games in development and scheduled for release in the next two years using any of those technologies? I'm just wondering which ones you might consider restricting your comments to. Glad to see people get slapped for stealing someones assets, and I would guess this could be a fatal blow to TERA. .
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1/29/10 9:07:58 AM#20
I guess TERA will never see release. It's a shame because it was looking great. |
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