I just looked at the EU servers is there a bug on the server status page or is there no one playing on them because they all say none as population?

People fail to realize NONE of these games really care about being game changers.  They give the mega hype and all but most games that come out 90% will purchase the box sale and quit the following month.  Doing this already gives the company a huge profit so all the remaining people to stay is just more milk added.

 

(cost me couple mils to make game?) box sales 500k-1mil? (40-$50 a box sale?) sup i just made 15+mil profit and will make smaller profit after plus eventually make it f2p

To certain posts I read: like, you should totally make your own MMO or finance one. You know SO much...

/sarcasm off
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Besides, I honestly doubt the reason some MMOs don't quite make it is because the makers were evil and set out to rob me of my moneyz.

I'm as excited as the next guy, for ArcheAge (and some other titles) but who knows down the road what'll happen?

Originally posted by Zezda
Let's face it, TERA was never going to be big.

TERA had, and still has a ton of potential.  Its just how they put it out there, was the problem. 

Originally posted by Kumapon

 

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Originally posted by AmbrosiaAmor
This was updated on the official forums, although the thread is now closed.

 

 

http://tera.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/tera_new/community/news/view.html?seq=35&ymd=20120809&page=1

 

Korean news is reporting that EME laid off 25% of its staff (20 out of 80 staff members) due to not hitting their target of 20 million dollars profit in NA. Speculation is that BHS is restructuring EME to make way for FTP. When asked a representative from BHS; their response was "No comment".

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I would be very very careful posting this news. I've talked to allot of people and anyone posting this info is getting a 30 day ban from EME, if they find out who did it. Saying it's malicious intent. EME doesn't want anyone to know the truth.

Actually, I have been very interested in that quote and it's aftermath because when the lock was done, the community manager who did it quoted "wrong transtalion." And ban for malicious intent would make sense if the persomn virally posting it over and over does so knowingly.

 

For my part I punched the quote from (http://tera.gamemeca.com/special/section/html_section/tera_new/community/news/view.html?seq=35&ymd=20120809&page=1) in Translate and came up with:

"The restructuring aenmaeseuui total staff, 20 of 80 people broke away. In terms of only the corresponding ratio range up to 25%. In the left corner of this restructuring in North America to be related to the performance of Terra geotyiran speculation is coming. Blue Hole Studios about it, "about three months after formal services for more than 20 million U.S. dollars earned. This reorganization is independent of the performance of Terra, "he dismissed."

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If we try to restructure it without adding or taking out words it seems to read "after 3 months after formal services were started and with over 20 million US dollars earned, this reorganization is independent of the performance of Tera."

That reads very different from "not reaching their target."

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Quote posted in the forums labeled as "incorrect translation." :

Korean news is reporting that EME laid off 25% of its staff (20 out of 80 staff members) due to not hitting their target of 20 million dollars profit in NA. Speculation is that BHS is restructuring EME to make way for FTP. When asked a representative from BHS; their response was "No comment".

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Anyhow.  If someone who knows Korean for a fact and is willing to put their name and reputation out there to clarify this translation (since the source material is still out there) a confirmation would help the discussion.  At least to me it would clarify the reasons for a ban.  Because trust me, it takes a LOT  like A LOT for people to get any form of bans there.

Fact seems pretty clear the layoffs were a direct result of the lawsuit settlement - and by extension - independent of tera's financial performance, which would not be too shabby at all if it was over 20 million in 3 months.

Might be because they have to pay NCsoft lawsuit?

TERA lawsuit settled, En Masse maintains innocence.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/08/10/tera-lawsuit-settled-en-masse-maintains-innocence/ 

Originally posted by lustbust

Originally posted by Chewychomp

Originally posted by dekou

Originally posted by pensseliseta

Originally posted by dekou
Strangely, they weren't the only ones. Back in spring, I saw a lot of people claiming TERA would threaten GW2, TSW and TOR.

TBH, looking at the state of TOR it is rivaling TOR.

Yeah, TOR flopped. TSW isn't doing great, either. Even GW2 can still flop in one way or another. However, it's pretty obvious TOR didn't flop because of TERA. TERA never threatened TOR. BioWare was what threatened and killed it.

Yeah Tor flopped hard, but thats what you get coming in the market with an unfinshed game preaching you are the WoW killer. TSW will be a niche game, will have its handful of hardcore fans and will do ok for a while. GW2 I believe will be fine, its buy to play and offers quite a bit more in content and will be significantly more finished and polished that most games we have seen in years, all the GW2 betas ran significantly smoother than games already launched and online for months/years. This is just my opinion though.

As far as Tera goes, if this game launched 5yrs(ish) ago it would hands down be my favorite game, when I play it every part of me screams I should love this game but I don't, besides the combat system the big awesome things you get to fight I am just bored of this game, its that been there done that 6598908058 times now feeling that kills it for me. IMO Tera is going to flop, and once GW2 launches that will be its first nail in the coffin, once Lineage 3 releases its will take Tera down for the kill.

Lineage 3??? You mean lineage eternal? Tera will be dead long before *lineage 3* ever exists.They dont need to wait for that most players in korea that left Tera went to Blade & Soul already.

What's the matter with Lineage Eternal? LE is the sequel to Lineage 1(200 years after L1). If you look at Korea, you'll see that Lineage 1 is the 3rd most played MMO there nowadays, currently behind Aion(2nd) and Blade&Soul(1st). Tera is in 6th, behind Lineage 2(4th) and WoW(5th). Sometimes Tera goes to 5th and WoW goes to 6th.

 

If the 14 years old Lineage 1 is still one of the kings of the eastern market, you can expect that Lineage Eternal, its sequel, will be the next king when it releases. 

Originally posted by lustbust

Originally posted by Chewychomp

Originally posted by dekou

Originally posted by pensseliseta

Originally posted by dekou
Strangely, they weren't the only ones. Back in spring, I saw a lot of people claiming TERA would threaten GW2, TSW and TOR.

TBH, looking at the state of TOR it is rivaling TOR.

Yeah, TOR flopped. TSW isn't doing great, either. Even GW2 can still flop in one way or another. However, it's pretty obvious TOR didn't flop because of TERA. TERA never threatened TOR. BioWare was what threatened and killed it.

Yeah Tor flopped hard, but thats what you get coming in the market with an unfinshed game preaching you are the WoW killer. TSW will be a niche game, will have its handful of hardcore fans and will do ok for a while. GW2 I believe will be fine, its buy to play and offers quite a bit more in content and will be significantly more finished and polished that most games we have seen in years, all the GW2 betas ran significantly smoother than games already launched and online for months/years. This is just my opinion though.

As far as Tera goes, if this game launched 5yrs(ish) ago it would hands down be my favorite game, when I play it every part of me screams I should love this game but I don't, besides the combat system the big awesome things you get to fight I am just bored of this game, its that been there done that 6598908058 times now feeling that kills it for me. IMO Tera is going to flop, and once GW2 launches that will be its first nail in the coffin, once Lineage 3 releases its will take Tera down for the kill.

Lineage 3??? You mean lineage eternal? Tera will be dead long before *lineage 3* ever exists.They dont need to wait for that most players in korea that left Tera went to Blade & Soul already.

Lineage 3 is NOT the same thing as Lineage Eternal. The Lineage games skip a generation in sequels. Lineage 2 is not a sequel of Lineage 1, they're very different games. Lineage Eternal IS a sequel, but to Lineage 1. Lineage 3 is still in production, and is a sequel of Lineage 2.

The timeline is like this: Lineage > Lineage 2 > Lineage Eternal > Lineage 3

                                                    \_________\_________/                         /

                                                                             \__________________/

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

Originally posted by lustbust

Originally posted by Chewychomp

Originally posted by dekou

Originally posted by pensseliseta

Originally posted by dekou
Strangely, they weren't the only ones. Back in spring, I saw a lot of people claiming TERA would threaten GW2, TSW and TOR.

TBH, looking at the state of TOR it is rivaling TOR.

Yeah, TOR flopped. TSW isn't doing great, either. Even GW2 can still flop in one way or another. However, it's pretty obvious TOR didn't flop because of TERA. TERA never threatened TOR. BioWare was what threatened and killed it.

Yeah Tor flopped hard, but thats what you get coming in the market with an unfinshed game preaching you are the WoW killer. TSW will be a niche game, will have its handful of hardcore fans and will do ok for a while. GW2 I believe will be fine, its buy to play and offers quite a bit more in content and will be significantly more finished and polished that most games we have seen in years, all the GW2 betas ran significantly smoother than games already launched and online for months/years. This is just my opinion though.

As far as Tera goes, if this game launched 5yrs(ish) ago it would hands down be my favorite game, when I play it every part of me screams I should love this game but I don't, besides the combat system the big awesome things you get to fight I am just bored of this game, its that been there done that 6598908058 times now feeling that kills it for me. IMO Tera is going to flop, and once GW2 launches that will be its first nail in the coffin, once Lineage 3 releases its will take Tera down for the kill.

Lineage 3??? You mean lineage eternal? Tera will be dead long before *lineage 3* ever exists.They dont need to wait for that most players in korea that left Tera went to Blade & Soul already.

Lineage 3 is NOT the same thing as Lineage Eternal. The Lineage games skip a generation in sequels. Lineage 2 is not a sequel of Lineage 1, they're very different games. Lineage Eternal IS a sequel, but to Lineage 1. Lineage 3 is still in production, and is a sequel of Lineage 2. The timeline is like this: Lineage > Lineage 2 > Lineage Eternal > Lineage 3

You're wrong, as I said in my last post, Lineage Eternal is the sequel to Lineage 1(200 years later), while L2 is a prequel to L1(150 years ago), chronologically:

 

Lineage 2 -> (150 years) -> Lineage 1 -> (200 years) -> Lineage Eternal.

So Lineage  Eternal is the most advanced Lineage in terms of lore so far.

 

I'm not saying that there won't be a "Lineage 3"(probably a sequel to Lineage Eternal), but it won't happen, at least, before 5 years after Eternal is released, because NCSoft doesn't want to compete with itself relasing 2 games of Lineage series almost at the same time. L2 was released 5 years after L1, so you can expect a "L3" being released at least 5 years after Eternal.

I wonder if those people they let go were the same ones that stole the code for Lineage 3 from NCSoft and used it to make TERA.....especially considering it happened the day after they agreed to settle out of court.