^^^ This coming from someone who can't let go of the fact that people are anticipating a game, therefore all of their posts in the Tera forums are obviously in defense of that game and have nothing to do with the content they actually wrote.  Stop telling people to leave.

Originally posted by Eir_S

^^^ This coming from someone who can't let go of the fact that people are anticipating a game, therefore all of their posts in the Tera forums are obviously in defense of that game and have nothing to do with the content they actually wrote.  Stop telling people to leave.

I've been playing MMOs long enough to have dealt with this fanboy hype craze more than a handful of times. My question is, why do they feel the need to come into the TERA forums to 'defend' GW2? If it's such a solid game changer, does it really need the same 6 dorks bouncing from thread to thread 'defending' it?

But thanks for proving my point - You're not here to discuss, you're here to 'defend'. Fanboys...

I'm telling people to leave because the trolling has gotten old. Especially since you guys just use the same regurgitated BS every single thread. It's old. You can't even have a decent discussion without it turning into GW2 wars anymore. It's the same handful of guys (like you) that are hitting up every single thread in this forum. You're just looking for trolling attempts and it's highly unbecoming.

You also told me to leave a thread where I didn't even mention GW2.  Because I'm not a fan of Tera, I'm not allowed to respond to a ridiculous statement like people who don't enjoy Tera are "immature"?

You let your anti-GW2-fan blinders lead you around, yet you criticize others for being fanboys.  I'm not going to argue about it, but look at your own posts if you're going to be fair.

You actually BROUGHT GW2 into a non-GW2 discussion in that other thread.  Stop being defensive.  Whereas I was attempting to find out the reason behind the immaturity comment, all you said was "Get out GW2 troll".  Not very constructive, really.

Originally posted by helthros

Originally posted by Eir_S

^^^ This coming from someone who can't let go of the fact that people are anticipating a game, therefore all of their posts in the Tera forums are obviously in defense of that game and have nothing to do with the content they actually wrote.  Stop telling people to leave.

 

I've been playing MMOs long enough to have dealt with this fanboy hype craze more than a handful of times. My question is, why do they feel the need to come into the TERA forums to 'defend' GW2? If it's such a solid game changer, does it really need the same 6 dorks bouncing from thread to thread 'defending' it?

But thanks for proving my point - You're not here to discuss, you're here to 'defend'. Fanboys...

 

I'm telling people to leave because the trolling has gotten old. Especially since you guys just use the same regurgitated BS every single thread. It's old. You can't even have a decent discussion without it turning into GW2 wars anymore. It's the same handful of guys (like you) that are hitting up every single thread in this forum. You're just looking for trolling attempts and it's highly unbecoming.

you do realize that you troll gw2 forums too right? it is nteresting for me to see gw2 fanboys outnumber tera fanboys on their own forums eh? no offence though I'm just putting out facts

Originally posted by Eir_S

You also told me to leave a thread where I didn't even mention GW2.  Because I'm not a fan of Tera, I'm not allowed to respond to a ridiculous statement like people who don't enjoy Tera are "immature"?

You let your anti-GW2-fan blinders lead you around, yet you criticize others for being fanboys.  I'm not going to argue about it, but look at your own posts if you're going to be fair.

You actually BROUGHT GW2 into a non-GW2 discussion in that other thread.  Stop being defensive.  Whereas I was attempting to find out the reason behind the immaturity comment, all you said was "Get out GW2 troll".  Not very constructive, really.

lol so you fancy yourself constructive now? lol, just lol.

I don't have a problem with GW2, I have a problem with these zealot fanboys that feel like they have to defend and spread the gospel of GW2. It reminds of the crusades. This whole idea where you have convinced yourself that you need to go around defending GW2 is laughable.

I was really looking forward to GW2 - I played GW1 from release and loved every bit of it. However, unlike others, I'm waiting till the game is released to make a judgement. Having said that, playing TERA definitely made me rethink whether I was going to get GW2.

In telling you to leave, I don't actually expect you to leave. You'll also notice the 'shoo' portion - It's meant to be more of a joke. Again, you are entirely too sensitive and defensive over this game. I think it's time to take a step back and take a bike ride outside or something.

Originally posted by stayontarget

I have a question if you don't mind. 

What exactly do you think you will be doing in D3/GW2/Secret World?  Yeah I thought so.

D3 has almost nothing to do with mmo's its an hack and slash but you will kill 1000x instead 10x lol even more boring and limited.

GW2 you have dynamic events huge open worlds to explore and many many screts to discover alot pvp options also and playing with huge groups naturally no need for pary/raid just join with amazing friendly community where many will help and when you die they revive you also no dumb chat eather. Oh and beautifull graphics also. So no TERA at all.

TSW Boring waxmuseum with same kind of boring quests.

Originally posted by pacov

Originally posted by helthros

Originally posted by Eir_S

^^^ This coming from someone who can't let go of the fact that people are anticipating a game, therefore all of their posts in the Tera forums are obviously in defense of that game and have nothing to do with the content they actually wrote.  Stop telling people to leave.

 

I've been playing MMOs long enough to have dealt with this fanboy hype craze more than a handful of times. My question is, why do they feel the need to come into the TERA forums to 'defend' GW2? If it's such a solid game changer, does it really need the same 6 dorks bouncing from thread to thread 'defending' it?

But thanks for proving my point - You're not here to discuss, you're here to 'defend'. Fanboys...

 

I'm telling people to leave because the trolling has gotten old. Especially since you guys just use the same regurgitated BS every single thread. It's old. You can't even have a decent discussion without it turning into GW2 wars anymore. It's the same handful of guys (like you) that are hitting up every single thread in this forum. You're just looking for trolling attempts and it's highly unbecoming.

you do realize that you troll gw2 forums too right? it is nteresting for me to see gw2 fanboys outnumber tera fanboys on their own forums eh? no offence though I'm just putting out facts

No, I don't. The only discussion in the GW2 forums I really got into was when someone suggested a PvP server for GW2. That discussion was more about FFA PvP servers vs PvE servers. Very little of it had to do with GW2 since I understand why GW2 doesn't have open world PvP.

Oh and I might have recommended waiting for the game to release a couple of times.

If that's trolling then there must be some new ultra-trolling word that I'm unaware of to describe what GW2 fanboys do here.

All the outnumbering says is that TERA players are, oh I don't know, playing their game? While GW2 fans have nothing better to do than troll. I wouldn't be entirely smug about that.

Originally posted by helthros

/snip 

So this is "not responding to me anymore"?  I just wanted to know why you complain about GW2 fans yet you brought up GW2 in a thread where it wasn't being mentioned just to tell me to leave?  Seems if anyone's sensitive, it's you.  No one can have a mind of their own, they're just defending GW2 in stealth, right?  I'm putting you on block, I have no time for another hypocrite.

Originally posted by GroovyFlower

Originally posted by stayontarget

I have a question if you don't mind. 

What exactly do you think you will be doing in D3/GW2/Secret World?  Yeah I thought so.

D3 has almost nothing to do with mmo's its an hack and slash but you will kill 1000x instead 10x lol even more boring and limited.

GW2 you have dynamic events huge open worlds to explore and many many screts to discover alot pvp options also and playing with huge groups naturally no need for pary/raid just join with amazing friendly community where many will help and when you die they revive you also no dumb chat eather. Oh and beautifull graphics also. So no TERA at all.

TSW Boring waxmuseum with same kind of boring quests.

Does anyone know which world is bigger - TERA's or GW2's? A lot of PvP options? It looked like just the Alterav Valley-esque WvWvW. Please correct me if I'm wrong - But I digress.

I'm really curious about the red part. Don't let the beta community fool you about what the community may be like on release. Keep in mind that while the lack of sub is fantastic, it also allows lots of rotten kids to play the game.

I don't know if you played GW1, but I did. The community there was one of the worst I've seen. F2P and B2P communities tend to be quite rotten.

It seems like some people like the idea of grouping with no-chatting. I personally don't, but to each their own.

I think that's quite funny though considering what an uproar there was over WoW's dungeon matching system and how people would group together and never speak a word. When WoW does that they are ruining the community and dumbing down the game. When GW2 does, it's revolutionary :)

You TERA fans sure do like to talk about GW2 a lot.

It's time to sit back, relax and realize the TERA quest system is truly one of the most boring, sub-par systems in questing history. WoW's quests in Cataclysm are more interesting. 

Talk to this guy, now come back to me, now kill 400 trees, now talk to this girl, talk to this guy, come back and talk to me, go the the camp and talk to this girl.

And after all that walking back and forth, congratulations, the story sucks too!

Questing is the weak part of TERA. The strong part is how nice the combat feels and works. Maybe instead of acting like a fanboy and questioning every person who criticizes the questing system in TERA, it is time to just admit how lame it is. 

Originally posted by colddog04

You TERA fans sure do like to talk about GW2 a lot.

 

It's time to sit back, relax and realize the TERA quest system is truly one of the most boring, sub-par systems in questing history. WoW's quests in Cataclysm are more interesting. 

 

Talk to this guy, now come back to me, now kill 400 trees, now talk to this girl, talk to this guy, come back and talk to me, go the the camp and talk to this girl.

 

And after all that walking back and forth, congratulations, the story sucks too!

 

Questing is the weak part of TERA. The strong part is how nice the combat feels and works. Maybe instead of acting like a fanboy and questioning every person who criticizes the questing system in TERA, it is time to just admit how lame it is. 

hmmm we have, for the past fucking 3 month people admit questing isn't Tera' strong suit, its you people who feel the need to bring it up ever single week for the past 3 month.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by colddog04

You TERA fans sure do like to talk about GW2 a lot.

 

It's time to sit back, relax and realize the TERA quest system is truly one of the most boring, sub-par systems in questing history. WoW's quests in Cataclysm are more interesting. 

 

Talk to this guy, now come back to me, now kill 400 trees, now talk to this girl, talk to this guy, come back and talk to me, go the the camp and talk to this girl.

 

And after all that walking back and forth, congratulations, the story sucks too!

 

Questing is the weak part of TERA. The strong part is how nice the combat feels and works. Maybe instead of acting like a fanboy and questioning every person who criticizes the questing system in TERA, it is time to just admit how lame it is. 

hmmm we have, for the past fucking 3 month people admit questing isn't Tera' strong suit, its you people who feel the need to bring it up ever single week for the past 3 month.

The problem is, alot of people have come to realize, Tera only offers a different combat, and thats it nothing else, zip, zero, nadda. Now alot of people, as I said would are starting to see the combat gets, meh after awhile. So they re now seeing the many shortcomings of Tera, and questing is one big blaring shortcoming. Not to worry, people soon will find something else like the vanarch system, will be a joke, and when BGs come, OWPvP is dead posts all over. 

Ladies and Gentlemen. The ultimate problem with TERA's everything-else-but-combat being average, is that it is charging you 15$ per month.

I repeat : 15$, per month.

Would you imagine paying 15$ per month on top of 60$ for being able to play Bayonetta ?

Originally posted by helthros

Originally posted by GroovyFlower

Originally posted by stayontarget

I have a question if you don't mind. 

What exactly do you think you will be doing in D3/GW2/Secret World?  Yeah I thought so.

D3 has almost nothing to do with mmo's its an hack and slash but you will kill 1000x instead 10x lol even more boring and limited.

GW2 you have dynamic events huge open worlds to explore and many many screts to discover alot pvp options also and playing with huge groups naturally no need for pary/raid just join with amazing friendly community where many will help and when you die they revive you also no dumb chat eather. Oh and beautifull graphics also. So no TERA at all.

TSW Boring waxmuseum with same kind of boring quests.

Does anyone know which world is bigger - TERA's or GW2's? A lot of PvP options? It looked like just the Alterav Valley-esque WvWvW. Please correct me if I'm wrong - But I digress.

 

I'm really curious about the red part. Don't let the beta community fool you about what the community may be like on release. Keep in mind that while the lack of sub is fantastic, it also allows lots of rotten kids to play the game.

 

I don't know if you played GW1, but I did. The community there was one of the worst I've seen. F2P and B2P communities tend to be quite rotten.

 

It seems like some people like the idea of grouping with no-chatting. I personally don't, but to each their own.

I think that's quite funny though considering what an uproar there was over WoW's dungeon matching system and how people would group together and never speak a word. When WoW does that they are ruining the community and dumbing down the game. When GW2 does, it's revolutionary :)

If you think WvW is like Alterac Valley then I don't think there is any help for you.  I obtained max reputation in AV pre-BC.  They are nothing alike.  Absolutely nothing.

Anyway why people are bothering about GW2 vs Tera is beyond me.  Its pointless argument.

Originally posted by jtcgs

Originally posted by UNH0LYEV1L

The guild wars 2 dynamic events were boring as hell in my opinion so to each his own.  I agree wthe the poster below you I think TSW is actually on to something their quests are hard, fun and actually make sense for what your doing.

Example:  Town is overrun by zombies, everyone is taking shelter in a police station. Cop asks you to get supplies, wood for baracade, food to eat, ammo etc.  So how do you do this?  It has to find phone books which you use to look up addresses of stores, figure out where on the map that is then you go out there and fight your way to the stores to get the stuff.

Pretty simple and nothing to ground breaking its a gather X amount of stuff quest, but it makes sense and so you actually don't mind doing it because its how you would probably do it in real life.

That is only removing quest markers and making you find the quest location. Thats the only difference. Its the same quests as in other games...collect X at location Y.

In GW2 the only difference in the quests is that the location is either pointed out on the map or it doesnt even start unless you are at the location already...either way, the collection quests make sense and fit in with the area. Heck as stupid as the quest was, going through  piles of poop for berries so you can breathe underwater made sense in WoW.

The berries are the type that COULD be eaten and passed undigested by the animals in the area...well heck, if only they removed the quest marker...oh wait, at the time that epac was released there were no quest markers in WoW, you had to read the quest text to know WTF to do. Guess WoWs quests were on par with TSW then. Oh wait...no phone book to go find to read...doh!

I don't really want to give a long explanation about another game in a Tera thread.  So suffice it to say.  You are not anywhere close to correct.

Originally posted by k-damage

Ladies and Gentlemen. The ultimate problem with TERA's everything-else-but-combat being average, is that it is charging you 15$ per month.

I repeat : 15$, per month.

Would you imagine paying 15$ per month on top of 60$ for being able to play Bayonetta ?

Is Bayonetta a mmo? does it get constant content update?

Originally posted by Leucent

The problem is, alot of people have come to realize, Tera only offers a different combat, and thats it nothing else, zip, zero, nadda. Now alot of people, as I said would are starting to see the combat gets, meh after awhile. So they re now seeing the many shortcomings of Tera, and questing is one big blaring shortcoming. Not to worry, people soon will find something else like the vanarch system, will be a joke, and when BGs come, OWPvP is dead posts all over. 

I can stay that for every game, if you decide the thing that makes it different and say its boring everything becomes boring. I can make example with almost every single mmorpg out there. But sinice this is the Tera forum and we pretty much went off track with other game too much i'll reframe. Sorry you can't read the future so until it happens shut it.

TERA has a FUN combat system.  I played the GW2 beta... and it's not even close.  TERA wins by a lot.

Having said that... as best i can tell GW2 will trounce TERA in just about every other area... TERA does have some nice aesthetcis - but I don't think I've ever played an MMO where the environment felt less interactive (though some have been close).

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by k-damage

Ladies and Gentlemen. The ultimate problem with TERA's everything-else-but-combat being average, is that it is charging you 15$ per month.

I repeat : 15$, per month.

Would you imagine paying 15$ per month on top of 60$ for being able to play Bayonetta ?

Is Bayonetta a mmo? does it get constant content update?

Being multiplayer doesn't justify 15$ per month on its own.

And about the content update :

1) Tera doesn't even have the base content of other subscription based mmos (bgs, raids, endgame activities other than dungeon farming). 

2) Does Tera give constant update too ? Plus, I've yet to see a real content update until end of summer (battlegrounds, which are not really a content upgrade as they already existed). 

p.s : this post is not a declaration of war against Tera fans. It's just an answer to the question. Put that gun down.

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by stayontarget

I have a question if you don't mind. 

What exactly do you think you will be doing in D3/GW2/Secret World?  Yeah I thought so.

WRONG!  On so many levels.  After tomorrow, I will be able to defend my point with examples from TSW.  D3, ok yeah, but that's the nature of that game and it's NOT an MMORPG.  Not sure why you included that.  GW2, rofl, the combat is more tactical then Tera and questing isn't hub to hub, it's free form and flows with the world and exploration is ten times a factor.  Tera is like MMO for babies in comparison.  

OP is right though, Tera could have just given one long massive epic quest from level 1 to 60 and said kill XXXX of each creature per zone, here's a piece or 2 of gear for doing that thanks, now move to next zone and kill XXXXX.  Why even have quest hubs, just have a massive clump of mobs from zone to zone, a la Dynasty Warriors where you just go off on creatures spamming attack buttons.  The game is THAT simple.

 what mmo isnt anymore