Originally posted by BigMango

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by BigMango

This is not your old school single tab targeting boring combat mmo. In Tera if you agro N mobs you hit them all with the same blow. It will take the same time to kill 1 mob or several mobs together.

Wait....what?

 

It takes the same time to kill 5 aggroed mobs than it takes to kill 1.

If you position the mobs properly, each blow hits them all for about the same damage.

This is easier if your class has AOE skills. With no AOE skill you need to work harder at lining them up.

 The damage is reduced a decent amount, unless you are a sorcerer and you can just nuke everything for ridiculous damage, regardless it's definitely much faster to pull multiple mobs and just swing your sword through them like a madman, that's for sure.

I agree with the OP.

Its a shame that the game has great combat but is so un imaginative in other areas.

Seems like a game either has great imagination and horrible combat, or vice versa.

I don't understand why a game can't bring both to the table.

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Originally posted by Kuinn

Originally posted by Amjoco

I'm to get my copy by mail today. You guys are suppose to pump me up and get me excited about it! This is not helping! 

To bad the combat style couldn't been added to Rift or even Vanguards enviroment. Oh well, I'm going to use my imagination and mobs will look different no matter what! 

 

 

Actually to my experience TERA has very variying monsters on new areas when comparing to the games the OP did. At least till lvl30 every area has got mostly new or highly variying mobs, the OP is basically lying, the proof is right there when you play the game :)

 

Ofcourse there's quite some copy pasting too on certain areas and with certain mobs, nothing unexpected there, it's only natural to see certain mobs in many areas unless the lore specifically says that these guys can live only in map X because magical invisible walls prevent them from moving anywhere else. /facepalm

"At least till lvl30".....well chum the OP is currently lvl 35. Level up some more before calling me a liar.

First of all chum, I said it because you never mentioned your level so you might aswell be those lvl5 players whining about stuff. I'll get back to you and tell after 5 more levels if there all of a sudden was a huge influx of cloned mobs.

I was actually afraid that you were really high level player and the cloning had gotten ugly towards the end, but I am relieved now, knowing you're basically the same level and talking about stuff I never experienced.

Originally posted by Amjoco

Originally posted by NBlitz

Can we please have some moderation in the TERA subforums!? Why must every topic get polluted with GW2 vs. TERA talk?

I agree. Some guy didn't like Tera so in defense the Tera fans must have drug GW2 into it. It doesn't ever make sense! 

Try any of the forums here right now. It isn't Tera vs. GW2, it is "All other mmo's" vs. GW2.

You can't have a discussion on this site atm without someone touting how GW2 is already, beyond a doubt the greatest mmo ever. And you don't even have to ever played it to know this is an imperical truth.

Honestly, I've never seen such a hostile takeover from an unreleased game before.

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On topic. Tera so far is a strange beast to me. While I don't like the quest structure, as it is a formula I've followed a million times before, I do find that the combat system makes it more fun than leveling in other games with the same structure.

My biggest beef against Tera right now is actually the innane 'Area' chat (at least at lower levels). It makes the barrens look like a mensa meeting. I'm giving the game to lvl 30. If the community is still a bunch of nerd ragers with a chip on their shoulders and an undeveloped sense of humor, I'm going elsewhere.

Originally posted by NBlitz

Can we please have some moderation in the TERA subforums!? Why must every topic get polluted with GW2 vs. TERA talk?

Because GW2 fanboys go out of their way to post about their game in other sub-forums. They don't have anything else to do while they wait for the next BWE..

Originally posted by Alucardlb

 

Second Quest, go kill 5 elder tree monsters......uninstall

Then you should unistall all your mmo's

Tera mght not have a strong questing but the combat and evrything else makes up for it with eaze

Originally posted by kanedaA

Originally posted by Alucardlb

 

Second Quest, go kill 5 elder tree monsters......uninstall

Then you should unistall all your mmo's

Tera mght not have a strong questing but the combat and evrything else makes up for it with eaze

I'm not sure what you mean by "everything else", and Tera is losing to GW2 in the combat dept. on these forums' polls.  Besides, you can't tell someone what they do or don't enjoy.  If he thought the lack of decent questing was worth uninstalling the game, good luck talking him out of it.

Originally posted by Jayaris

Originally posted by NBlitz

Can we please have some moderation in the TERA subforums!? Why must every topic get polluted with GW2 vs. TERA talk?

Because GW2 fanboys go out of their way to post about their game in other sub-forums. They don't have anything else to do while they wait for the next BWE..

pot calling the kettle black much?

Originally posted by kanedaA

Originally posted by Alucardlb

 

Second Quest, go kill 5 elder tree monsters......uninstall

Then you should unistall all your mmo's

Tera mght not have a strong questing but the combat and evrything else makes up for it with eaze

The combat in tera's not bad, but kill quest grinding is something most gamers & developers are trying to get away from. While most games do have some form of this, TERA makes absolutely no effort to try and hide this or do something clever with it. The combat can be fun, but it doesn't do anything to make the questing more enjoyable (which is the bulk of the game).

Originally posted by aesperus

Originally posted by Jayaris

Originally posted by NBlitz

Can we please have some moderation in the TERA subforums!? Why must every topic get polluted with GW2 vs. TERA talk?

Because GW2 fanboys go out of their way to post about their game in other sub-forums. They don't have anything else to do while they wait for the next BWE..

pot calling the kettle black much?

I'd say it's more like a chubby man calling a morbidly obese man overweight.

Originally posted by Eir_S

Originally posted by kanedaA

Originally posted by Alucardlb

 

Second Quest, go kill 5 elder tree monsters......uninstall

Then you should unistall all your mmo's

Tera mght not have a strong questing but the combat and evrything else makes up for it with eaze

I'm not sure what you mean by "everything else", and Tera is losing to GW2 in the combat dept. on these forums' polls.  Besides, you can't tell someone what they do or don't enjoy.  If he thought the lack of decent questing was worth uninstalling the game, good luck talking him out of it.

A forum where, people like you - Who don't even play TERA come onto this sub-forum simply to tell us how GW2 is superior? What exactly was the point of your post?

It's not at all relevant to the title matter, the guy doesn't even directly reference PvP on his post.

You've come here to what state that a poll on another threads says that GW2 combat is better?

So what? What sample quality checks were placed on the response pool? How accurate is the data? 

It's a forum poll.

Not worth talking about in another thread.

Honestly, you're pathetic lady.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I agree with the OP.

Its a shame that the game has great combat but is so un imaginative in other areas.

Seems like a game either has great imagination and horrible combat, or vice versa.

I don't understand why a game can't bring both to the table.

It cost a lot of money to done one right so you can only have one unless developer willing to risk so much money.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

I agree with the OP.

Its a shame that the game has great combat but is so un imaginative in other areas.

Seems like a game either has great imagination and horrible combat, or vice versa.

I don't understand why a game can't bring both to the table.

It cost a lot of money to done one right so you can only have one unless developer willing to risk so much money.

so whats swtor excuse for such boring and uninspired combat? looked like they had plently of money to throw around... really it comes down to the direction of the game and what the developers feel is most important to them

We have so many arm-chair developers on the web. Why don't we have a true second-coming MMO yet? Why do the developers of these newer MMOs always get something wrong?

We know better, right? If we take what we know and like, our MMO would be super popular.

Keep dreaming. 

Originally posted by NBlitz

We have so many arm-chair developers on the web. Why don't we have a true second-coming MMO yet? Why do the developers of these newer MMOs always get something wrong?

We know better, right? If we take what we know and like, our MMO would be super popular.

 

 

 

Keep dreaming. 

it has gotten pretty obvious as of now most MMO developers are in it for the money and nothing more.. games coming out are so uninspiried so generic it has gotten pretty sad.. so much of it nowadays feels like its all about the money and not anything about the game itself... luckily there are a few developers out there that seem to still make games that fell like they mean something to them other than just a paycheck

Originally posted by Sovrath

1, why are you strafing as a lancer? Lancers are a forward attacking class and have a very narrow bit in front of them to attack. YOu would do better strafign as a warrior.

2, yes they do get faster. I was nothign that there are several mobs taht will attack you and immediately jump back, reposition, jump over you and attack again.

3, Waht do you mean by "guides you"? It is a theme park game, true, but my leveling bruoght me to different places than beta. I actually bypassed certain places that I levelled in at beta. additionally, the game sends yout to different areas before you've outlevelled an area so you can feasibly stay or move to a new area.

4, I would agree with you but what game really offers a lot of variation? Lotro? Certainly not Aoc. Certainly not EQ2. Not lineage 2. Not DDO.

5 sorry but I played Rift and the graphics in Tera are better. the art design is better as well. this has to be your video card.

 

 

1) I strafe because standing still and just hitting block when the mob attacks is pretty dull, I thought this game was about moving around alot?

2) Nice to know.

3) After playing more last night it is pretty much a hand holding game. But it's quest hub driven, so i'm not overly suprised.

4) I've gone through 6? different lances now, not really any sort of change, quite dissapointing.

5) Each to their own, Rift had far better graphics/backgrounds imho. Tera is a bit of a step up from ftps. Maybe it's just because i've played alot of the asian ftps i'm noticing it. If the only game you['ve ever played it wow then yes, i'm sure you think Tera is amazing graphical wise.

Originally posted by Teekay

1) I strafe because standing still and just hitting block when the mob attacks is pretty dull, I thought this game was about moving around alot?

Its hella lot harder than it sound at later lvl where boss attacks all push you around and your dps all do massive dmg where if all you do is block you loss aggro instantly. Trying to get in attacks to keep aggro and not taking dmg when monster hit fast, moves a lot, and take out 20%+ of you hp in 1 hit is not dull at all.

2) Nice to know.

3) After playing more last night it is pretty much a hand holding game. But it's quest hub driven, so i'm not overly suprised.

4) I've gone through 6? different lances now, not really any sort of change, quite dissapointing.

From what i seen if you just look from a distance there isn't much changes, well because lance and shield all hae the general overall shap but the details are very different.

5) Each to their own, Rift had far better graphics/backgrounds imho. Tera is a bit of a step up from ftps. Maybe it's just because i've played alot of the asian ftps i'm noticing it. If the only game you['ve ever played it wow then yes, i'm sure you think Tera is amazing graphical wise.

Tera graphically from a technical stand points is better period. If you perfer the style in rift thats different.

The reason for this copy paste (and yes, there is a ton of it) I think is the combat system. Just think about it, in a game with this kind of combat system, you cant have 500 different monsters, all of them with unique moves and animations because you simply wouldnt be able to remember when you are supposed to dodge/block, when to move away etc.

Originally posted by JudgeUK

Having played from eq through wow, gw, rift, aion, swtor, ffxiv. etc etc

Yes, I know that all mmo's repeat mobs at different levels to some degree. They do however add new ones or some different  mechanic to add a degree of interest.

Some even merge these into a storyline....

Not so Tera, this has got to be the most uninteresting levelling experience I've had, and that's saying something compared to Aion at original launch.

How many Jesters can they stick in the game? Looking exactly the same, doing exactly the same, with exactly the same adds. Talk about cut and paste programming.

No wonder this game bombed in Asia. It just goes to show that you have to have some indpendent thought in addition to getting yourself sued by NCsoft

I find the mobs no worse than any other MMO. However, that isn't a compliment. 

Also, Tera bombed in Asia? I didn't hear that before.

Originally posted by A_hi

The reason for this copy paste (and yes, there is a ton of it) I think is the combat system. Just think about it, in a game with this kind of combat system, you cant have 500 different monsters, all of them with unique moves and animations because you simply wouldnt be able to remember when you are supposed to dodge/block, when to move away etc.

 

 

I would actually like it that way!!! LOL