Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Regarding GvG on PvP servers: I am to understand you get points for GvG and that helps level your guild? There is a guild level video here on this forum. It states you get really nice gear from vendors when you have a high guild level.

That would be a purpose to PvP beyond the fun of OWPvP. Hasn't a lot of "PvP vs PvE" arguments mentioned that it stinks for PvPers to be forced into PvE to gear up? Well here you go, a way to gain gear by PvP. Now go fight something! :)

As far as we know the GvG doesn't give you point to help the guild level up. The points merely means that you win or lose a gvg.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
@Otacu

Marketing scam? How so?

I know that the option to PvP for Vanarch was taken out or postponed along with battlegrounds but I think you highly underestimate the want if people to have something exclusive. What guild leader wouldn't want to be a Vanarch if a province? It's exactly what it says it is. You vote, someone is elected and van make certain changes: Political System.

Now beyond that I would love to see it blossom to something better than it is and who's to say it won't? You certainly can't, neither can I. It seems to tie into other future content that has been speculated but not given a release date so I'll enjoy what it brings now.

That's not how you should "control" a region. And since BHS and Enmasse overhyped the political feature like it is some kind of Wonder now people think ther funniest things about this.  Very few people know how it really works and many like to dream about it.

In Korea it didn't blossom at all. And here in the west the system will be even more limited since one of the biggest decison (making a region pvp free or not) is not available for Vanarchs.

I hated this game in CBT3 (which is the first time I played it). I had no interest. I had totally written it off as another F2P game that was P2P. But after 40 MMO's I decided I'd give it another chance because I was so burnt on everything else and I'm blown away.

I'm so addicted, it's like I have an IV with TERA injected right into my veins. I've been loving the combat, I adore my guild and I've just been having a downright BLAST.

And even though they're having some technical difficulties at the moment, I sit here and wait patiently with a smile, because I know when it comes up I'll just keep enjoying the hell out of it.

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

LOL its better then GW2 in what way? All I seen in tera was gank fest 2012 so yeah I' don't agree with that at all. Also tera is nothing new or great, its the same old same old with FPS mechanics, that does not make a great new game sorry. Playing Aion with FPS mechanics just isn't all that great. I'll take GW2 over tera and thats why I'm not playing tera waiting on the better game.

and what is GW2?  A game that left me with a feeling of warhammer online but instead of quest givers I just automatically get the quest when I enter the area. Oh except warhammer was actually a real mmorpg and guild wars 2 has to shove people into zone instances making them unable to play together.  Oh warhammer also had at least some sense of direction in gw2 you just have to run around to run into various events...honestly I much prefer some quests that lead me to different areas of the maps.  The WvW was alright and ill probably play it on occasion so I guess its worth the 60 bucks being that theres no monthly fee but I would have much rather paid per month for a better game.

Sorry you had problems playing with friends. I only had that about two time as it put me on overflow. I pretty much ran with the five guys from my guild and it was a blast and I'm sure that will be fixed soon. Need to stress the servers and not flood them. It reminds me nothing of Warhammer and I'm not sure where you guys even get that from. Also I was just following my story quest and just happen to run into the DE's. The whole point of the game is to go out find things to do and not be stuck in a stagnant world which they did and did very well. The only time I was not moving was when I was crafting. The way they have it set up is perfect, it keeps you moving forword. I was so glad I didn't have to run back to npc's IT WAS GREAT. Try playing the game the way it was ment to be played and stop trying to compair it to games that hold no bearing on GW2.

Also GW2 is just a great game. Thats it, I like what they have done. Is it life changing no. Is it a diffrent way to play a mmo YES

Originally posted by otacu

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Regarding GvG on PvP servers: I am to understand you get points for GvG and that helps level your guild? There is a guild level video here on this forum. It states you get really nice gear from vendors when you have a high guild level.

That would be a purpose to PvP beyond the fun of OWPvP. Hasn't a lot of "PvP vs PvE" arguments mentioned that it stinks for PvPers to be forced into PvE to gear up? Well here you go, a way to gain gear by PvP. Now go fight something! :)

As far as we know the GvG doesn't give you point to help the guild level up. The points merely means that you win or lose a gvg.

 

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
@Otacu

Marketing scam? How so?

I know that the option to PvP for Vanarch was taken out or postponed along with battlegrounds but I think you highly underestimate the want if people to have something exclusive. What guild leader wouldn't want to be a Vanarch if a province? It's exactly what it says it is. You vote, someone is elected and van make certain changes: Political System.

Now beyond that I would love to see it blossom to something better than it is and who's to say it won't? You certainly can't, neither can I. It seems to tie into other future content that has been speculated but not given a release date so I'll enjoy what it brings now.

Well of course a guild leader would like to be Vanarch. But save the brag rights what's in there to do? You move vendors around the region and other minor things.

That's not how you should "control" a region. And since BHS and Enmasse overhyped the political feature like it is some kind of Wonder now people think ther funniest things about this.  Very few people know how it really works and many like to dream about it.

In Korea it didn't blossom at all. And here in the west the system will be even more limited since one of the biggest decison (making a region pvp free or not) is not available for Vanarchs.

 

 

 

You make stuff to do after becoming a Vanarch. Especially if you can make your province PvP free for all and that province is a crucial travel point.....or contains the most of a particular resource...etc. Then charge road tariffs or paid writs that grant permission to travel throughout your lands. Yeah..you may not be touched by the Vanarchs guild...but others have no such restrictions ( of course the Vanarch may place a bounty on them for breaking his rule or send some men to deal with the bandits). One could always attain a guild guarded escort  on your journey or to gather. For a small fee or percentage of your crafted products of course... If it's done even half right it would be an interesting mechanic. It's the "being done" thing that I'm waiting to see. All of which is also  dependent on sustaining a decent population.

Originally posted by AliceKaye

I hated this game in CBT3 (which is the first time I played it). I had no interest. I had totally written it off as another F2P game that was P2P. But after 40 MMO's I decided I'd give it another chance because I was so burnt on everything else and I'm blown away.

I'm so addicted, it's like I have an IV with TERA injected right into my veins. I've been loving the combat, I adore my guild and I've just been having a downright BLAST.

And even though they're having some technical difficulties at the moment, I sit here and wait patiently with a smile, because I know when it comes up I'll just keep enjoying the hell out of it.

and thats the whole point of playing a game. To have fun. Good to here, hope they get it back up and running for you guys.

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

LOL its better then GW2 in what way? All I seen in tera was gank fest 2012 so yeah I' don't agree with that at all. Also tera is nothing new or great, its the same old same old with FPS mechanics, that does not make a great new game sorry. Playing Aion with FPS mechanics just isn't all that great. I'll take GW2 over tera and thats why I'm not playing tera waiting on the better game.

and what is GW2?  A game that left me with a feeling of warhammer online but instead of quest givers I just automatically get the quest when I enter the area. Oh except warhammer was actually a real mmorpg and guild wars 2 has to shove people into zone instances making them unable to play together.  Oh warhammer also had at least some sense of direction in gw2 you just have to run around to run into various events...honestly I much prefer some quests that lead me to different areas of the maps.  The WvW was alright and ill probably play it on occasion so I guess its worth the 60 bucks being that theres no monthly fee but I would have much rather paid per month for a better game.

What the heck are you talking about???

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

LOL its better then GW2 in what way? All I seen in tera was gank fest 2012 so yeah I' don't agree with that at all. Also tera is nothing new or great, its the same old same old with FPS mechanics, that does not make a great new game sorry. Playing Aion with FPS mechanics just isn't all that great. I'll take GW2 over tera and thats why I'm not playing tera waiting on the better game.

and what is GW2?  A game that left me with a feeling of warhammer online but instead of quest givers I just automatically get the quest when I enter the area. Oh except warhammer was actually a real mmorpg and guild wars 2 has to shove people into zone instances making them unable to play together.  Oh warhammer also had at least some sense of direction in gw2 you just have to run around to run into various events...honestly I much prefer some quests that lead me to different areas of the maps.  The WvW was alright and ill probably play it on occasion so I guess its worth the 60 bucks being that theres no monthly fee but I would have much rather paid per month for a better game.

What the heck are you talking about???

The first part about the zone instances?  GW 2 zones hold a limited amount of people the number can't be very high because there were many different "overflow servers" (fancy way to avoid saying instances) and as I ran around them I did not encounter many players my guess was less than 100.   Anyway so you are stuck in these instances of the zone and you can't play with your friends if they end up in a different instance (overflow).  Imagine guild wars 1 but instead of the outdoor zones being just you or a prebuilt party it holds more players.  I spent at least 95% of my time in game (when i wasnt pvping) in an overflow server.  Even if you end up in same area as a friend you can still get zoned into another as you switch areas.  

The second part there is no direction because there is no quests telling you where to go aside from the story quests.  You just run around for the most part.

Originally posted by ColdSun
I kind of wish I hadn't purchased GW2 now though.  My friends don't like it even though I do.

So play it and make new friends while doing so?

Originally posted by ColdSun
I kind of wish I hadn't purchased GW2 now though.  My friends don't like it even though I do.

Dont worry i will be your friend and play whith you..........

38 zerker here...i love this game by far it has better pvp than gw2 and many other mmo out there

nothing more lovely than mass aoe crit everyone near gates mouhahahaha

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

LOL its better then GW2 in what way? All I seen in tera was gank fest 2012 so yeah I' don't agree with that at all. Also tera is nothing new or great, its the same old same old with FPS mechanics, that does not make a great new game sorry. Playing Aion with FPS mechanics just isn't all that great. I'll take GW2 over tera and thats why I'm not playing tera waiting on the better game.

and what is GW2?  A game that left me with a feeling of warhammer online but instead of quest givers I just automatically get the quest when I enter the area. Oh except warhammer was actually a real mmorpg and guild wars 2 has to shove people into zone instances making them unable to play together.  Oh warhammer also had at least some sense of direction in gw2 you just have to run around to run into various events...honestly I much prefer some quests that lead me to different areas of the maps.  The WvW was alright and ill probably play it on occasion so I guess its worth the 60 bucks being that theres no monthly fee but I would have much rather paid per month for a better game.

What the heck are you talking about???

The first part about the zone instances?  GW 2 zones hold a limited amount of people the number can't be very high because there were many different "overflow servers" (fancy way to avoid saying instances) and as I ran around them I did not encounter many players my guess was less than 100.   Anyway so you are stuck in these instances of the zone and you can't play with your friends if they end up in a different instance (overflow).  Imagine guild wars 1 but instead of the outdoor zones being just you or a prebuilt party it holds more players.  I spent at least 95% of my time in game (when i wasnt pvping) in an overflow server.  Even if you end up in same area as a friend you can still get zoned into another as you switch areas.  

The second part there is no direction because there is no quests telling you where to go aside from the story quests.  You just run around for the most part.

Saying that shoving people into instances making them unable to play together is basically a false statement. This happened because its was a lot of people getting in at the same time. Just like in any other game's opening week you will have server queues. You don't see me saying Tera does not allow people to play together because they have these "servers" that don't allow people to play at all(cause there isn't even such a thing as an overflow server to wait while in queue). And they already said it wasn't working as intended in beta since it was not moving adding you to the queue all the time and they are supposed to keep parties together but it wasn't, lets call this beta 

Ok, I see you need to be directed, not going to judge. But just so you don't get lost there are scouts that mark events in your map. Basically the map is GW2's version of the quest log. Still its not a game for you, if you need that much direction stick to the standard quest log games. "J key" FTW! lol 

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by Kuppa

Originally posted by Ceromus

Originally posted by bestever

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

LOL its better then GW2 in what way? All I seen in tera was gank fest 2012 so yeah I' don't agree with that at all. Also tera is nothing new or great, its the same old same old with FPS mechanics, that does not make a great new game sorry. Playing Aion with FPS mechanics just isn't all that great. I'll take GW2 over tera and thats why I'm not playing tera waiting on the better game.

and what is GW2?  A game that left me with a feeling of warhammer online but instead of quest givers I just automatically get the quest when I enter the area. Oh except warhammer was actually a real mmorpg and guild wars 2 has to shove people into zone instances making them unable to play together.  Oh warhammer also had at least some sense of direction in gw2 you just have to run around to run into various events...honestly I much prefer some quests that lead me to different areas of the maps.  The WvW was alright and ill probably play it on occasion so I guess its worth the 60 bucks being that theres no monthly fee but I would have much rather paid per month for a better game.

What the heck are you talking about???

The first part about the zone instances?  GW 2 zones hold a limited amount of people the number can't be very high because there were many different "overflow servers" (fancy way to avoid saying instances) and as I ran around them I did not encounter many players my guess was less than 100.   Anyway so you are stuck in these instances of the zone and you can't play with your friends if they end up in a different instance (overflow).  Imagine guild wars 1 but instead of the outdoor zones being just you or a prebuilt party it holds more players.  I spent at least 95% of my time in game (when i wasnt pvping) in an overflow server.  Even if you end up in same area as a friend you can still get zoned into another as you switch areas.  

The second part there is no direction because there is no quests telling you where to go aside from the story quests.  You just run around for the most part.

Saying that shoving people into instances making them unable to play together is basically a false statement. This happened because its was a lot of people getting in at the same time. Just like in any other game's opening week you will have server queues. You don't see me saying Tera does not allow people to play together because they have these "servers" that don't allow people to play at all(cause there isn't even such a thing as an overflow server to wait while in queue). And they already said it wasn't working as intended in beta since it was not moving adding you to the queue all the time and they are supposed to keep parties together but it wasn't, lets call this beta 

Ok, I see you need to be directed, not going to judge. But just so you don't get lost there are scouts that mark events in your map. Basically the map is GW2's version of the quest log. Still its not a game for you, if you need that much direction stick to the standard quest log games. "J key" FTW! lol 

Yes that can really be compared...waiting in queue for 30mins then being able to play as long as you want with ur friends vs being online for hours and rarely getting to play with your friends? They said multiple times true mmorpg.  its not a true mmorpg is you can only fit a hundred people in a zone assuming its even that many.

Yes, I played UO and AC because i needed to be directed.  I don't need direction I am simply not a carebear like yourself that enjoys running around exploring the lands.  If I can level up quickly doing objectives while being shown the world then super I prefer it.

Originally posted by xposeidon

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

 This post would have been better if you explained why you liked it amongst other things, instead you compare it to GW2 to gain attention and start another TERA vs GW2 argument? Yes it is in better shape, It was released about a year ago in Korea.

To say the PvP is more meaningful than GW2 is out of line though, even on GW2's first BWE the PvP is far more meaningful than what TERA has.

Yes I've played both games.

GW2 pvp sucks end of story

just another 1-2-3-4 spam skills with an evasion skill big deal..hated it...same boring pvp  like most mmo's

tera crush gw2 pvp easily 

just that it is free aim for EVERY SINGLE THING is just enough...unlike gw2 wich its still tab target overated system

Originally posted by kanedaA

Originally posted by xposeidon

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

 This post would have been better if you explained why you liked it amongst other things, instead you compare it to GW2 to gain attention and start another TERA vs GW2 argument? Yes it is in better shape, It was released about a year ago in Korea.

To say the PvP is more meaningful than GW2 is out of line though, even on GW2's first BWE the PvP is far more meaningful than what TERA has.

Yes I've played both games.

GW2 pvp sucks end of story

just another 1-2-3-4 spam skills with an evasion skill big deal..hated it...same boring pvp  like most mmo's

tera crush gw2 pvp easily 

just that it is free aim for EVERY SINGLE THING is just enough...unlike gw2 wich its still tab target overated system

You know its better if you try that again with some actual arguments rathen than rants...just saying 

Originally posted by TheDubanat0r
there are plans to bring battlegrounds

BG are already confirmed

its coming  this summer

Originally posted by kanedaA

Originally posted by xposeidon

Originally posted by Betaguy

Game is great, caught me off gaurd, I actually bought it and subbed.... Heh.

Game is in much better shape than GW2 and has way more meaningful PvP than GW2.

 This post would have been better if you explained why you liked it amongst other things, instead you compare it to GW2 to gain attention and start another TERA vs GW2 argument? Yes it is in better shape, It was released about a year ago in Korea.

To say the PvP is more meaningful than GW2 is out of line though, even on GW2's first BWE the PvP is far more meaningful than what TERA has.

Yes I've played both games.

GW2 pvp sucks end of story

just another 1-2-3-4 spam skills with an evasion skill big deal..hated it...same boring pvp  like most mmo's

tera crush gw2 pvp easily 

just that it is free aim for EVERY SINGLE THING is just enough...unlike gw2 wich its still tab target overated system

You forgot the awkward F1-F4 keys its a good thing they let you rebind it to shift+1-4...oh...wait...thats right you can't

I actually thought Tera would be a decent game, but the game is an absolute snorefest.  Same old game as every other with a new paint job.  They need to raise the difficulty level on the game exponentially, it's just not challenging unless you aggro multiple mobs. And the combat is soooooo slooooooow, do they need to give a 3 second tell to alert people they should dodge?  

It's unfortunate that the one part of the game that they are suppose to have improved so much, is really the biggest failure.

Originally posted by Terrorizor

I actually thought Tera would be a decent game, but the game is an absolute snorefest.  Same old game as every other with a new paint job. 

Those are my thoughts as well.

[Mod Edit - Stay on topic.]

Originally posted by Terrorizor

I actually thought Tera would be a decent game, but the game is an absolute snorefest.  Same old game as every other with a new paint job.  They need to raise the difficulty level on the game exponentially, it's just not challenging unless you aggro multiple mobs. And the combat is soooooo slooooooow, do they need to give a 3 second tell to alert people they should dodge?  

It's unfortunate that the one part of the game that they are suppose to have improved so much, is really the biggest failure.

This sounds like it came from someone who played til lvl 11.  The game ramps up quite substantially fighting massive monsters with groups of people both in dungeons and for world quests/BAM hunting.  The group combat is simply unmatched.  Sorry you didn't give it a chance though.