Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Ranged classes don't just get to stand in one spot on the outside and nuke the bosses unmolested like they do in every other game.  They need to move for positioning.   Boss fights in this game are mobile and fluid.  If you are a ranged class and trying to play the game from one spot, you aren't playing your class correctly.  This goes for the healing classes as well.  The combat is about positioning, reaction time, and strategy.  The kind of combat it appears you're looking for you'd be able to find in a game like WoW, where you are allowed to pick a spot on the perimeter and chain nuke the target with little to no repercussions.  

Sorry you didn't enjoy the game.  

Positioning would be great and fun IF there wasn't that stupid pause to cast making it a pita.  Seriously, that pause has got to go.

That pause is about positioning. It's about "where you are and should you use your attack, defense at the time."

It's about choices and consequences. best thing they ever put in the game.

The combat challenges you to react at the right time.

Things would be to easy if your ability didn't root you for a small moment.

Timing and mobility is everything. Boss fights are awesome.

Originally posted by Omali

Originally posted by Painlezz

or a homosexual man elf chest 6-pac...

No one is going to take you seriously when you act like an immature bigoted child.

I see where your trying to go with that reply and i honestly think your the only one that cares so deeply about an internet opinion.

 

Regardless...the point was...theres no choice.

 

I agree with the origional comment, though would word it diffrently.  To each their own but, as is with most asian mmorpgs...theres only one way to go.  I could care less if people made a boyish thin rippling muscle charater with over syled hair...just give me the option to be a grizzled borish out of shape character....you get the point....these games are about picking the character you want, not being forced to pick out of several metro-boyish style characters with near naked armor (which i hate since id never want explosed skin in a fight).

 

 

Anyway....im semi interested in this game because of "diffrent" combat.  Everything ive heard about the diffrent combat is worded in a manner that completely turns me off from it...however i like to believe that its the diffrent that is throwing people off.

I dislike the close range sorc....i love this class when its a class that dies in a few hits and your play style is to kill before you get hit...using cc if you have to....being close range while being a magic caster would make me want to go melee for the advantages they bring to close quarter combat...being able to take some punishment....

The second point ties into the first....i want the options on play style as well, based on class.

 

Dont take this as a negative non-review...im not interested in warhammer 2.0 (GW2) and the overhype-turned-hater mafia that follows all the over hyped themeparks...ill miss that mess thank you.....im playing aion as a hold over untill TSW which i probably wont pick up untill after launch settles....point is im looking for something....$50 isnt a big deal.... any point of views that may address my concerns?

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Ranged classes don't just get to stand in one spot on the outside and nuke the bosses unmolested like they do in every other game.  They need to move for positioning.   Boss fights in this game are mobile and fluid.  If you are a ranged class and trying to play the game from one spot, you aren't playing your class correctly.  This goes for the healing classes as well.  The combat is about positioning, reaction time, and strategy.  The kind of combat it appears you're looking for you'd be able to find in a game like WoW, where you are allowed to pick a spot on the perimeter and chain nuke the target with little to no repercussions.  

Sorry you didn't enjoy the game.  

Positioning would be great and fun IF there wasn't that stupid pause to cast making it a pita.  Seriously, that pause has got to go.

No kidding.  I logged out and uninstalled after a couple of hours.  How people can tolerate the self rooting when you cast an instant is beyond me....absolutely game breaking.

Originally posted by jazz.be

The combat challenges you to react at the right time.

Things would be to easy if your ability didn't root you for a small moment.

Timing and mobility is everything. Boss fights are awesome.

I can't believe every other MMO prior to this missed this little tid bit o fun...self rooting (on an instant cast)!  Woot I've never had so much fun!!

Originally posted by Mardukk

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Ranged classes don't just get to stand in one spot on the outside and nuke the bosses unmolested like they do in every other game.  They need to move for positioning.   Boss fights in this game are mobile and fluid.  If you are a ranged class and trying to play the game from one spot, you aren't playing your class correctly.  This goes for the healing classes as well.  The combat is about positioning, reaction time, and strategy.  The kind of combat it appears you're looking for you'd be able to find in a game like WoW, where you are allowed to pick a spot on the perimeter and chain nuke the target with little to no repercussions.  

Sorry you didn't enjoy the game.  

Positioning would be great and fun IF there wasn't that stupid pause to cast making it a pita.  Seriously, that pause has got to go.

No kidding.  I logged out and uninstalled after a couple of hours.  How people can tolerate the self rooting when you cast an instant is beyond me....absolutely game breaking.

Same here, except you lasted much longer than I did before I uninstalled.  Couldn't stand the combat or the stupid as hell anime races, esp. the little girl and pedo bear ones.

I'm really loving Tera I guess i'm totally opposite to the OP the Asian anime style art i really like...the colours....armors etc. 

 

The landscapes look fantastic and the music really immerses me.

 

I've pre-ordered but i'm also going to play GW2 a month after release ( when some more feedback comes back from players ) . I loved the beta weekend i was invited to play in.

I have time to play both games which is great.

 

Problem is sorry Blizzard I don't have time for a 3rd game so WOW is off my radar now.

 

Gamers are going to be spoilt for choice this year developers better shape up or suffer.

Originally posted by Fuggly
read just because it wasnt a GW2 thread.....................But yeah, Tera is terrable.........only thoise with very little gaming experience seem to like it imho. 

Haha nice.

I've been playing MMOs for about 14 years now, and I've pretty much played them all (seriously..i have a bit of a problem). TERA's combat is my favorite combat in any MMO ever. This game really hits its stride around lvl 22.

Your sweeping generalizations have no place here. Good day sir!

Originally posted by remyburke

Originally posted by Fuggly
read just because it wasnt a GW2 thread.....................But yeah, Tera is terrable.........only thoise with very little gaming experience seem to like it imho. 

Haha nice.

I've been playing MMOs for about 14 years now, and I've pretty much played them all (seriously..i have a bit of a problem). TERA's combat is my favorite combat in any MMO ever. This game really hits its stride around lvl 22.

Your sweeping generalizations have no place here. Good day sir!

Been playing MMOs that long myself and couldn't agree more. The combat in Tera is the most addictive MMO combat I have ever played, to me at least.  It has been explained in some detail why the combat has roots and how it actually adds to the skill and strategy of the game. I mean it's no different then some of the best selling action games ever made, It works for a reason.

P.S. Fought my first BAMs tonight and oh my god I didn't think I could enjoy the combat more...... I was wrong lol

Originally posted by nateslo

Originally posted by Tsuru

Originally posted by nateslo

Originally posted by mmorpgmaner

I logged in and out of TERA within 5 minutes. Worst combat ever

^Same. I hate to judge a game so quickly but I honeslty logged into the beta, ran around for a few minutes and logged out. Can't stand the gameplay. I agree with the previous statements about asian mmos. I hate to stereotype, but there is just something different about them that doesn't sit well with me. It's a shame tho, this game looked interesting. 

So you based your experience off graphics and looks rather then gameplay?

This is whats wrong with todays "gamers."

Gameplay > graphics.

notice where I said "Can't stand the gameplay." ....

yeah, kinda makes your statement invalid. 

then stick with your overated tab target crap system and dont break our balls

Originally posted by Mardukk

Originally posted by jazz.be

The combat challenges you to react at the right time.

Things would be to easy if your ability didn't root you for a small moment.

Timing and mobility is everything. Boss fights are awesome.

I can't believe every other MMO prior to this missed this little tid bit o fun...self rooting (on an instant cast)!  Woot I've never had so much fun!!

I dont understand why poeple complain about the animation locking. They dont use cast times on spells instead your character is stuck in place until the animation is finished. Its not any different that any other game. I mean in Wow you cast a heal or a frost bolt or shadow bolt or whatever and your dude has a cast time. Sure the animation is instant because you dont process it until the cast time is over. in TERA you cast the spell instantly but have to wait until the animation is finished to move again ie it acts as your cast bar. As you get higher level you can get equiptment to increase your speed which actually makes the animations faster and shortens your delay. People whine about stuff just to whine. TERA is a really fun game but you either like it or dont. I notice alot of poeple take one look at the combat and just refuse to learn something different and log off. I have one friend that whines about the animation locking on melee because he cant run around like an idiot all the time like in wow.... the other complained because the only pet class has crappy pets. At least his complaint makes sense since mystic pets do pretty much suck compared to like warlocks or hunters from Wow but I told him to try something else and he just whines about the combat as well. So basically the game is hit or miss with poeple. If you are able to adapt and enjoy the combat the game is alot of fun. If not then I feel sorry for you because more and more games in the future are going to a more action oriented route so the sooner you adapt to change the better.

Just to add a personal note I have been playing mmos for 14 years or so. The first one I played was The Realm then I moved to UO. This games combat is one of my favorites of all the games I have played. I just hope they release content fast enough to keep the player population around because the only downside to this game is leveling is to fast.

The combat system in Tera is much more refreshing than spending half your PVP time blowing off trinkets, cooldowns to prevent being stunlocked in WSG. WOW became a battle of macros rather than real skill which Tera offers.

Pet class would never work in Tera, whole point of action combat is for you to be invovled in the combat, doing stuff. Any pet class would take no skill because your pet AI is doing all the work.

Originally posted by Fuggly
read just because it wasnt a GW2 thread.....................But yeah, Tera is terrable.........only thoise with very little gaming experience seem to like it imho. 

Not true, us real gamers have good taste....

Originally posted by Painlezz

Not terribly upset about the wasted 50 bucks... 

 

But I've been trying to enjoy this game even a little and I can't!

 

The Asian influence is so beyond huge I almost can't stand it.  The actual class abilities are pretty boring.

"Ranged" classes aren't really ranged as just about every spell is either melee range or "Does less damage at longer range" and because every ability in game (almost) requires you to stop and wait for animations, melee will be up in your face after 1-2 attacks anyway!

The melee classes:  "Does damage and swords swing around a ton for a second or two"   next ability... "Does damage and swords swing around and you jump up in air"  

 

I've always enjoyed playing ranged classes in any RPG and they are flat out terrible in this game =(

 

In PvE fights against a boss, the two ranged classes end up fighting in almost melee range, stand at what I would consider a resonable RANGE from the boss and you'll likely find your abilities doing less damage or missing due to out of range issues!

 

Guess I was so beyond bored I figured i'd give it a shot, and I find myself bored and having zero fun right from the start.  At least AION kept my attention for a few days =(

 

I don't like the Anime art in Tera either, like you I get annoyed by the half naked high heels and evning gown dressed elf females and the Elins(soft porn style), I tried the game at beta weekends out of curiosity...And after playing abit (level 12 or so), I was convinced that Tera could be a very good game...

As for the artstyle..I try to ignore the half naked tweens running by me once in a while..The other more brute races are rather ok..and the bunnie race is well "cute" even for a man that is 45 :)

Trust me, the combat in the game is rather good, try some other classes..The Healer for example, the thing is that you wont get certain skills that makes the class shine until about 15-20..I didnt have any healing abilities to heal others until level (10-15?)

And yeah..The game puts you in lock position when activating abilities..Try thinking about it this way..In the later game when enemies actually does damage to you..It will be a game of "cat and mouse" and time your abilities right, you will just smack your abilities in and run out of danger..The thing is that all the enemies at the island are so "over" easy, it doesnt matter what you do "you wil eventually win anyways.. When understanding that, I took the time to practice my skills for later ..Practice my heals on players etc..and..well Tera is now a very good game..

Ohh and the level 20 intro ...doesnt really help much at all, because when entering a game with like 20 skills and no clue at all what they are etc..you will just hammer away..The reason why they put it there was to help a player see what was suppose to come..I'd say it has an opposite effect to that..

Give it a chance..You will be surprised..atleast I did..

Originally posted by RebelScum99

Ranged classes don't just get to stand in one spot on the outside and nuke the bosses unmolested like they do in every other game.  They need to move for positioning.   Boss fights in this game are mobile and fluid.  If you are a ranged class and trying to play the game from one spot, you aren't playing your class correctly.  This goes for the healing classes as well.  The combat is about positioning, reaction time, and strategy.  The kind of combat it appears you're looking for you'd be able to find in a game like WoW, where you are allowed to pick a spot on the perimeter and chain nuke the target with little to no repercussions.  

Sorry you didn't enjoy the game.  

What he said.   I love the fighting mechanics.  As an Archer, I can actually miss the target if I am not paying attention.  It takes skill to fight in this game not just button pushing.

Granted, you do have to get kinda close here and there, but you have a jump back move for every class to get out of the way.

Knowing when to use them is the key to surviving.  It is an FPS/mmorpg which I love.  At first, I had a hard time getting used to the UI, but being able to customize your layout any way you like is a big plus for me.

I used to have the same opinion about the level 20 intro until I saw it this way - then I thought it was brilliant:

 

A quick way to sample a class a higher level in what is essentially a 5-10 minute prologue.  I got a taste of the aiming and locking technique for priests, of how different races animate a dodge, etc.  I found it useful for choosing a race/class combo that suited me in terms of animations and types of skill without having to leavel every class to 20.

Otherwise yeah all those buttons are overwhelming when barely learning to walk.  But the above redeeemed it for me real quick.

Also, once you do it once you can choose to bypass it altogether on future toons.

Why do people even respond to threads like this?  It's clear the OP and a few others are here to troll and poop all over TERA.  "I played for 5 minutes and logged out."  LOL  How absurd is that.  That's like playing WoW at release, killing 10 boars, and saying the game sucks.  The combat in this game is totally unlike any other MMO I have played, and it's more like Skyrim/Witcher/Reckoning style than the typical MMO combat.  I don't want to mention the graphics because everyone knows they are ridiculous, but the PvP, the dungeons, the BAMs, and even some parts of crafting (i.e. enchanting) are really well done.  Loving it so far.

Originally posted by Vaelgard
Why do people even respond to threads like this?  It's clear the OP and a few others are here to troll and poop all over TERA.  "I played for 5 minutes and logged out."  LOL  How absurd is that.  That's like playing WoW at release, killing 10 boars, and saying the game sucks.  The combat in this game is totally unlike any other MMO I have played, and it's more like Skyrim/Witcher/Reckoning style than the typical MMO combat.  I don't want to mention the graphics because everyone knows they are ridiculous, but the PvP, the dungeons, the BAMs, and even some parts of crafting (i.e. enchanting) are really well done.  Loving it so far.

c'mon now, i actually like the graphic and art style very much :D

i find it interesting with amount of ppl having issue with "half naked high elf with high heel", nothing wrong with bit of eye candy~ but i still have doubt on elin. i dont mind them, but i wouldnt play them :P

Originally posted by Painlezz

Not terribly upset about the wasted 50 bucks... 

 

But I've been trying to enjoy this game even a little and I can't!

 

The Asian influence is so beyond huge I almost can't stand it.  The actual class abilities are pretty boring.

"Ranged" classes aren't really ranged as just about every spell is either melee range or "Does less damage at longer range" and because every ability in game (almost) requires you to stop and wait for animations, melee will be up in your face after 1-2 attacks anyway!

The melee classes:  "Does damage and swords swing around a ton for a second or two"   next ability... "Does damage and swords swing around and you jump up in air"  

 

I've always enjoyed playing ranged classes in any RPG and they are flat out terrible in this game =(

 

In PvE fights against a boss, the two ranged classes end up fighting in almost melee range, stand at what I would consider a resonable RANGE from the boss and you'll likely find your abilities doing less damage or missing due to out of range issues!

 

Guess I was so beyond bored I figured i'd give it a shot, and I find myself bored and having zero fun right from the start.  At least AION kept my attention for a few days =(

Troll?  Makes me wonder if you played the game at all and if you did are you sure you weren't playing some other game?