Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sythion
the consensus is the first 20 levels will be a grind no matter what.

Not true, if you enjoy it and its not a grind well i enjoyed all of lvl 1-32 so none of it was a grind to me. If i enjoy endless killing same monter for 3% ahr and its not a grind. So you can't state that because it be completely different for everyone.

I don't have problem with starting area but it seem many do which is what EME is working on fixing. I always hate start area, no matter how well made i'll always hate lower lvl content.

I'll ignore that you seem to be contradicting yourself here, and point out that consensus does not mean unanimity.

Originally posted by Sythion

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sythion
the consensus is the first 20 levels will be a grind no matter what.

Not true, if you enjoy it and its not a grind well i enjoyed all of lvl 1-32 so none of it was a grind to me. If i enjoy endless killing same monter for 3% ahr and its not a grind. So you can't state that because it be completely different for everyone.

I don't have problem with starting area but it seem many do which is what EME is working on fixing. I always hate start area, no matter how well made i'll always hate lower lvl content.

I'll ignore that you seem to be contradicting yourself here, and point out that consensus does not mean unanimity.

Depends on what you consider as grind,  as for my self I don't consider questing as grinding.  Killing mobs over and over for only .002 exp is what I consider as grinding, which tera does not have.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Sythion

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sythion
the consensus is the first 20 levels will be a grind no matter what.

Not true, if you enjoy it and its not a grind well i enjoyed all of lvl 1-32 so none of it was a grind to me. If i enjoy endless killing same monter for 3% ahr and its not a grind. So you can't state that because it be completely different for everyone.

I don't have problem with starting area but it seem many do which is what EME is working on fixing. I always hate start area, no matter how well made i'll always hate lower lvl content.

I'll ignore that you seem to be contradicting yourself here, and point out that consensus does not mean unanimity.

Depends on what you consider as grind,  as for my self I don't consider questing as grinding.  Killing mobs over and over for only .002 exp is what I consider as grinding, which tera does not have.

TERA's questing is just killing mobs over and over again.  

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
LOL Otacu do you have any basis for what you just posted? You forgot some PvP activities and do you have any sources for your time estimation? TERA on PvP servers is all about PvP. Well, unless you instanced PvP, that you need to look elsewhere for.

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 I did not forgot some pvp activities. duels, gvg, deathmatches etc. are all just owpvp

The time estimations are based on what we are getting right now in Korea.

They are working on Rifts right now. Late summer battlegrounds will be introduced so i can only guess a major update like server invasions will be up next year.

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Correction, I know Battlegrounds are quoted as "late summer" but do you have information for the Queen of Argon part 2, which is supposed to introduce Server vs. Server?

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 Link or it didn't happen.

The last time BHS mentioned server invasion was 1 year ago where it evaluated to have new battlegrounds and gvg by autumn 2011 and rifts by winter 2012. After that a fourth major city (Juras Ark) and invasions.
This was last year.
Considering how slow they are and how they are struggling just by copying simple features from other games i guess i'm pretty safe to say that the invasions won't go live until 2013. But that's just an estimate based on the updates speed

Originally posted by Yamota

I am contemplating buying this game but the know I hear of it, the more it sounds like this game is almost all PvE. I mean does it have any PvP content beside random open world PvP for no purpose?

It definately seemed so. And it has dynamic gameplay to support it. Unfortunately pvp servers are made to cater to ganking, with almost 0 risk to cowards. So if that is your kick, than yes. Otherwise, no

Originally posted by otacu

 

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
LOL Otacu do you have any basis for what you just posted? You forgot some PvP activities and do you have any sources for your time estimation? TERA on PvP servers is all about PvP. Well, unless you instanced PvP, that you need to look elsewhere for.

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 I did not forgot some pvp activities. duels, gvg, deathmatches etc. are all just owpvp

 Ah, so you're grouping them all up.  You can boil it down however you want they are still different activities.  One major way they will become inportant is if Outlaws have more restrictions put on them (no city admittance, etc.).  Then PvP will be a little more organized.

The time estimations are based on what we are getting right now in Korea.

This is kind of a gray area for us in NA since it looks like EME is getting us as much of current K-TERA as possible but exactly what is unknown.  We should be finding out this week.

They are working on Rifts right now. Late summer battlegrounds will be introduced so i can only guess a major update like server invasions will be up next year.

 It's speculation for sure.  I'm assuming they work on multiple things at the same time however.  We'll just have to wait and see.

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Correction, I know Battlegrounds are quoted as "late summer" but do you have information for the Queen of Argon part 2, which is supposed to introduce Server vs. Server?

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 Link or it didn't happen.

 

The last time BHS mentioned server invasion was 1 year ago where it evaluated to have new battlegrounds and gvg by autumn 2011 and rifts by winter 2012. After that a fourth major city (Agaia) and invasions.
This was last year.
Considering how slow they are and how they are struggling just by copying simple features from other games i guess i'm pretty safe to say that the invasions won't go live until 2013. But that's just an estimate based on the updates speed

 EnMasse mentioned it at PAX back in August:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/27/pax-2011-tera-producers-reveal-server-vs-server-endgame-conten/

You could be right about 2013, no one knows.  Be watching EnMasses' Open Beta notes though, that will give you an idea of what is already completed and what they can focus on.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by otacu

 

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
LOL Otacu do you have any basis for what you just posted? You forgot some PvP activities and do you have any sources for your time estimation? TERA on PvP servers is all about PvP. Well, unless you instanced PvP, that you need to look elsewhere for.

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 I did not forgot some pvp activities. duels, gvg, deathmatches etc. are all just owpvp

 Ah, so you're grouping them all up.  You can boil it down however you want they are still different activities.  One major way they will become inportant is if Outlaws have more restrictions put on them (no city admittance, etc.).  Then PvP will be a little more organized.

The time estimations are based on what we are getting right now in Korea.

This is kind of a gray area for us in NA since it looks like EME is getting us as much of current K-TERA as possible but exactly what is unknown.  We should be finding out this week.

They are working on Rifts right now. Late summer battlegrounds will be introduced so i can only guess a major update like server invasions will be up next year.

 It's speculation for sure.  I'm assuming they work on multiple things at the same time however.  We'll just have to wait and see.

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Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Correction, I know Battlegrounds are quoted as "late summer" but do you have information for the Queen of Argon part 2, which is supposed to introduce Server vs. Server?

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 Link or it didn't happen.

 

The last time BHS mentioned server invasion was 1 year ago where it evaluated to have new battlegrounds and gvg by autumn 2011 and rifts by winter 2012. After that a fourth major city (Agaia) and invasions.
This was last year.
Considering how slow they are and how they are struggling just by copying simple features from other games i guess i'm pretty safe to say that the invasions won't go live until 2013. But that's just an estimate based on the updates speed

 EnMasse mentioned it at PAX back in August:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/27/pax-2011-tera-producers-reveal-server-vs-server-endgame-conten/

You could be right about 2013, no one knows.  Be watching EnMasses' Open Beta notes though, that will give you an idea of what is already completed and what they can focus on.

I know... but that's old VERY OLD news.

And they were reporting what Bluehole studios were planning last year.

I don't need to remind you that :

rifts were supposed to be live t3 2011 (they went live t1 2012 laggy as hell they are still fixing it)

Agaia and Juras Ark live in t3 2011 (no news about that.... MIA)

New battlegrounds in t3 2011 (maybe, MAYBE they will go live at the end of t3 2012)

Server vs Server was meant for t4 2011 (no news about that ... MIA)

That's what it's happening in Korea. I expect to have at least a 3 month "lag" for Western Tera.

And the same time they promised a new class, new Vanarch power, new continent..... promises, promises, promises.

They are falling behind and don't follow their own schedule.

Originally posted by EvilestTwin

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by Sythion

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sythion
the consensus is the first 20 levels will be a grind no matter what.

Not true, if you enjoy it and its not a grind well i enjoyed all of lvl 1-32 so none of it was a grind to me. If i enjoy endless killing same monter for 3% ahr and its not a grind. So you can't state that because it be completely different for everyone.

I don't have problem with starting area but it seem many do which is what EME is working on fixing. I always hate start area, no matter how well made i'll always hate lower lvl content.

I'll ignore that you seem to be contradicting yourself here, and point out that consensus does not mean unanimity.

Depends on what you consider as grind,  as for my self I don't consider questing as grinding.  Killing mobs over and over for only .002 exp is what I consider as grinding, which tera does not have.

TERA's questing is just killing mobs over and over again.  

Tera and every other MMO.   questing is basically that,  go kill mobs, collect things, etc,  find the thief who stole your mother's eggs and kill it.  kill the king's assasin's , find the cook who stole the chickens,  then kill it?

the only MMO that diden't have that, are the ones with no quests,  Pre Wow old school MMO.  but back then, all you did was grinding killing mobs without a quest to tell you to do it.

Originally posted by otacu

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I know... but that's old VERY OLD news.

And they were reporting what Bluehole studios were planning last year.

I don't need to remind you that :

rifts were supposed to be live t3 2011 (they went live t1 2012 laggy as hell they are still fixing it)

Agaia and Juras Ark live in t3 2011 (no news about that.... MIA)

New battlegrounds in t3 2011 (maybe, MAYBE they will go live at the end of t3 2012)

Server vs Server was meant for t4 2011 (no news about that ... MIA)

That's what it's happening in Korea. I expect to have at least a 3 month "lag" for Western Tera.

 

And the same time they promised a new class, new Vanarch power, new continent..... promises, promises, promises.

They are falling behind and don't follow their own schedule.

 Because updates are never behind schedule? Take it easy and be happy we have a company like EME that is getting us the KTERA content way before we should.  Who knows that they are working on and when those things listed above will come about.  The only thing mentioned so far has been Nexus and Battlegrounds.

My point is that your comment about TERA being a PvE focused game is wrong.  It mightnot have the organized PvP you personally like but that doesn't make it a PvE focused game.

For me it is , but then again it depends on your definition of pvp , while I enjoy BG and instanced pvp at times, it was a breath of fresh air to see world pvp actually occurring regularly in the upper levels this weekend. 

From "gank squads" to anti pk guilds and just random battles going on all across the zones I went through in the late teens on it was enjoyable.

Personally , I'm sick of the standing around and queueing for some instanced glorified group duel.

World pvp was actually going on on a pvp server , and it was obvious there were people that should have rolled on a pve server from the qq'ing going on from being killed.

There are plenty of instanced group dueling pvp option games out there , but I'm enjoying seeing world pvp for a chance here.

Originally posted by Yamota

I am contemplating buying this game but the know I hear of it, the more it sounds like this game is almost all PvE. I mean does it have any PvP content beside random open world PvP for no purpose?

Strictly Solo Friendly PvE based game and doubly so if you intend to play a melee since the self rooting animation on ability use is astoundingly gamebreaking for balance and empowers ranged classes way to much.

Truthfully I have a great time open world pvping in tera!  I'm sick of all these games that only have bg grinding w/o any real open world pvping going on....  The guild v guild is alot of fun once you declare war on like 5 different guilds pvp is poping off everywhere!  

I think this game is going to be more PvE boasting the action group dungeon deal. I would hold off on getting the game at release if PvP is the drive of your gaming.

On the other hand, I would recommend getting EVE for your PvP/Sandbox fix and getting TERA for your carrot-on-a-stick dungeon crawling fix. Seems like such a good mix - I can't wait.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Yamota

I am contemplating buying this game but the know I hear of it, the more it sounds like this game is almost all PvE. I mean does it have any PvP content beside random open world PvP for no purpose?

Strictly Solo Friendly PvE based game and doubly so if you intend to play a melee since the self rooting animation on ability use is astoundingly gamebreaking for balance and empowers ranged classes way to much.

lol you just enjoy bouncing around these threads trolling every single one. The melee rooting is for balance purposes so you can't just jump around WoW styles doing circles around your opponents - You actually have to choose the right opportunity to attack instead of just mashing buttons when they come off cooldown - Oh nossss

Strictly solo is horribly wrong and I wonder if you even made it past lvl 5. The game will be mostly group PvE focused if you ask me with emphasis on dungeon crawling. I'm looking forward to this because the first dungeon I did was one of the funnest PvE experiences I've had in years. Going around with a group farming BAMs and world bosses was also quite a blast. These fights are pretty epic and they're a lot of fun.

Hey look its zylaxx, i swear he has the "rooted animations" script typed in notepad so he can go into every single tera thread and copy/paste it.

@OP, Tricky asnwered most of your questions(though BGs are getting revamped from the original versoin that was in korea, so they are not in at launch).

Originally posted by Zylaxx

Originally posted by Yamota

I am contemplating buying this game but the know I hear of it, the more it sounds like this game is almost all PvE. I mean does it have any PvP content beside random open world PvP for no purpose?

Strictly Solo Friendly PvE based game and doubly so if you intend to play a melee since the self rooting animation on ability use is astoundingly gamebreaking for balance and empowers ranged classes way to much.

Can you not make stupid assumptions w/o playing the game? So far i have yet to experience any issue against range classes. And i'm a lancer, a good melee also manage to keep range class close by. And its honestly not hard to close in when they have to stop to attack as well.

And gl soloing past 30+ you can lvl at about 2-3x slower than people who group.

Originally posted by Cinge

Hey look its zylaxx, i swear he has the "rooted animations" script typed in notepad so he can go into every single tera thread and copy/paste it.

@OP, Tricky asnwered most of your questions(though BGs are getting revamped from the original versoin that was in korea, so they are not in at launch).

 

Lol let me put "instant cast in middle of casting skill" script in a notepad and copy it ot every GW2 thread =P