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TERA Forum » General Discussion » PREDICTION! TERA F2P 3mo after Gw2

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  Punk999

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2/27/12 2:36:33 PM#41

Why do people over hype GW2 so much lol

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  ChromeBallz

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2/27/12 2:44:44 PM#42

The amount of 'knowledge' in this thread is staggering.

I'll be bookmarking this thread and link to it in 2015 when everyone here is proven wrong ^^

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  Sagasaint

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2/27/12 3:07:14 PM#43

I see SWToR going F2P due to GW2 before TERA...

  Xasapis

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2/27/12 3:08:58 PM#44
Originally posted by ChromeBallz

The amount of 'knowledge' in this thread is staggering.

I'll be bookmarking this thread and link to it in 2015 when everyone here is proven wrong ^^

If we're alive by then, I'm sure we'll care.

  Laughing-man

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2/27/12 3:14:10 PM#45
Originally posted by Killsmallchi

TERA will go F2P 3 months after GW2. I put my buck on this bet and think it is pretty solid. DOes anyone see that this game will have a long and happy subscription life?

This is also fueled by the obvious beauty of TERA making it very well suited to sell costumes and make alot of money because of how pretty the game is.

So you base this off of what data, concepts, or info?

The game is still pay to play in Korea, which is actually very rare, so why do you think that in a more common place P2P market (NA / EU) it will go F2P first?

That makes no sense?

Also, why do we think that F2P is like a bad word or something, or a sign of failure?   F2P games have made more money and generate more money than P2P ones now... look at Farmville, its a F2P game.

TERA will probably go F2P when every other game in NA does, shortly after WoW does.  F2P is just  achange in pricing, it does not really change anything when it comes to quality, content, or game direction.

(If they do the right F2P model)

  grapevine

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2/27/12 3:16:09 PM#46

I'm interested in Tera, but I'm not sure about its success.  There seems to a fuss about how great the combat is, but to be honest from what I've seen (note: I've yet to get a hands on) its basically a copied SWG's NGE system.  I'm not sure it will go F2P so soon, but I'd expect it to perform on the same level as Rift.

  nycplayboy78

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2/27/12 3:22:53 PM#47
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Killsmallchi

TERA will go F2P 3 months after GW2. I put my buck on this bet and think it is pretty solid. DOes anyone see that this game will have a long and happy subscription life?

This is also fueled by the obvious beauty of TERA making it very well suited to sell costumes and make alot of money because of how pretty the game is.

So you base this off of what data, concepts, or info?

The game is still pay to play in Korea, which is actually very rare, so why do you think that in a more common place P2P market (NA / EU) it will go F2P first?

That makes no sense?

Also, why do we think that F2P is like a bad word or something, or a sign of failure?   F2P games have made more money and generate more money than P2P ones now... look at Farmville, its a F2P game.

TERA will probably go F2P when every other game in NA does, shortly after WoW does.  F2P is just  achange in pricing, it does not really change anything when it comes to quality, content, or game direction.

(If they do the right F2P model)

^^ Don't feed the trolls or argue with fools....You made you points quite cogently.....

  Herodes

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2/27/12 3:33:40 PM#48

OP: do you really believe, in these times more people play hyped game A three months after release than 1 month after release?

No, they don´t.
It won´t change with TERA and it won´t change with Guild Wars 2.

You don´t need a crystal ball and rocket science for this.

Sadly todays market = box sales at release > all

  Arcona

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2/27/12 3:39:46 PM#49

Best thing about Tera is the combat

here is Guild Wars 2 combat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

  emota

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2/27/12 3:42:38 PM#50
Originally posted by Arcona

Best thing about Tera is the combat

here is Guild Wars 2 combat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

Looking forward to play both at launch, have to say though GW2 combat aint nothing like TERA, its still a hotkey mmo. Its a fight that TERA wins hands down.

  rexzshadow

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2/27/12 3:49:45 PM#51
Originally posted by Sorrow

What boggles my mind is that its not F2P from the very beginning.

Tera is same design, same concept, same story, same everything that 1000 other korean made MMO's are that all release with the F2P model.

IMO all the hype behind Tera really shows just how little the average American gamer knows, and how few games they have actually played.

On the other side of the coin, I really am glad some people are enjoying it.

 

I just wish people would stop trying to over-hype the game, its an ok game, but it really isnt the end all be all some people have convinced themselves that it is.

 

 

Just because almost all f2p mmorpg are made in korean doesn't mean every Korean game has to be f2p. And what hype are you even talking about? All of us only came out because all the people constantly bashing the game. If you want hype look at GW2 and SWTOR, thats hype. Completely excitement for a game they never played, most Tera supporter here have played Tera. Ya to us its a good game, never said it was for everyone but seem like there so many people feel the need to make it seem like a worthless game.

Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Killsmallchi

TERA will go F2P 3 months after GW2. I put my buck on this bet and think it is pretty solid. DOes anyone see that this game will have a long and happy subscription life?

This is also fueled by the obvious beauty of TERA making it very well suited to sell costumes and make alot of money because of how pretty the game is.

So you base this off of what data, concepts, or info?

The game is still pay to play in Korea, which is actually very rare, so why do you think that in a more common place P2P market (NA / EU) it will go F2P first?

That makes no sense?

Also, why do we think that F2P is like a bad word or something, or a sign of failure?   F2P games have made more money and generate more money than P2P ones now... look at Farmville, its a F2P game.

TERA will probably go F2P when every other game in NA does, shortly after WoW does.  F2P is just  achange in pricing, it does not really change anything when it comes to quality, content, or game direction.

(If they do the right F2P model)

Problem with F2P is that so far almost no company has ever done it right, they all start out ok and after few year let greed get better of them and make the game P2W. I play fiesta, a korean f2p mmorpg when it came out in NA. The game was simple it was a grind bu t i love the graphic and simplity. Commuity was great. When cash shop was first released it only sold 1 costum and than later added other one. 2 year passes and cash shop sell cash shop pots that instant heals to full hp/mp with no cd, charms that boost dmg/def by 20% and 50% and can stack together for 70%. Enhancement before cash shop was possible to get to +9 (max) w/o any cash item and every patch the enhancement rate get lower so people have to buy cash item. End game +9 1 item cost 60-100, and by end game if you didn't have +9 you basically fail to even grind because the monster are so hard. Great game great community all went down the toliet coz of messed up cash shop. I'm sure many people here had similar experience. Why I finally switch to P2P coz 15 dollar a month is nothing compare to around mini of 30 dollar a month to keep a high lvl character running in some f2p games.

Originally posted by nationalcity

I'm just wondering why is Tera singled out what about all the other MMO's there not gonna go F2P also once the holy grail MMO comes out ??????

I'm going to enjoy all the GW2 fanboy cry over GW2 when it comes out. I'll say this now it won't meet up to more than half of the fanboy's expection because simply no game can. Whats sad is its not even Arena Nets's fault, they deliver what they promise but the fanboy make so much stuff up that they never promised or planed they just can't meet that. Make me look forward to GW2's release more than  Tera.

Originally posted by NBlitz
Originally posted by nationalcity

I'm just wondering why is Tera singled out what about all the other MMO's there not gonna go F2P also once the holy grail MMO comes out ??????

Some people have major beef with the latest South-Korean title to come out in the West: TERA.

 

Like, this one guy who's a game "journalist" was in one of the TERA beta weekends and he absolutely hated it. He had no fun.

He gets into the GW2 press beta and you know what he said the following week after the event ended?

"Wow! Combat was soooooo much fun. I could block stuff and dodge! So much fun!" He proceed to squeal like a little school girl some more. And there I was thinking: but, wtf? You played TERA before you played GW2 and NOW you get excited about being able to dodge stuff in real time?

I too want to play GW2 badly, but...come on. Give. me. a. break.

I laugh at everyone wh o tell me GW2 combat is better than Tera or more action based. I wonder if they even payed attention because all the vidoe i watched most skill are still lock on. Only difference is you can use skill w/o a target which do you no good at all beside showing off or its an aoe. All other skill have auto lock on which means you can't dodge for shit unless you use an dodge/parry/block skill. Its like an upgraded verison of tab target where you get more freedom and instead of tab target its auto target. Yet people try to run it off as more action combat than Tera, other reason why the game will never meet up to the overly hpyed expection.

Originally posted by Punk999

Why do people over hype GW2 so much lol

Same reason why SWTOR probably, they not really hyped over the game like most Tera players are, they are hyped over the name GW, just like people were hpyed by Star War rather than SWTOR as a game.

Originally posted by Arcona

Best thing about Tera is the combat

here is Guild Wars 2 combat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

No not even close, its still targeted combat with much more freedom in movement. if you notice you can move way in middle of attack and you can see the sword just hitting empty air yet ir still register as a hit. Just like most tab target mmorpg once the skill/attack goes off you can't dodge it unless you use a dodge skill. Tera there are hit boxes where if you don't reach teh hitbox its not a hit. GW2 is dynamic combat, a more polished up verison of tab target combat system you have, not where is it near the hack and slash of Tera's action combat. But if thats what you perfer than more power to you.

  Sector13

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2/27/12 4:12:26 PM#52
Originally posted by rexzshadow
Originally posted by Arcona

Best thing about Tera is the combat

here is Guild Wars 2 combat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

No not even close, its still targeted combat with much more freedom in movement. if you notice you can move way in middle of attack and you can see the sword just hitting empty air yet ir still register as a hit. Just like most tab target mmorpg once the skill/attack goes off you can't dodge it unless you use a dodge skill. Tera there are hit boxes where if you don't reach teh hitbox its not a hit. GW2 is dynamic combat, a more polished up verison of tab target combat system you have, not where is it near the hack and slash of Tera's action combat. But if thats what you perfer than more power to you.

There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

  Sagasaint

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2/27/12 5:54:10 PM#53
Originally posted by rexzshadow
Problem with F2P is that so far almost no company has ever done it right, they all start out ok and after few year let greed get better of them and make the game P2W. 

and you still hasnt realized why's that?

 

the F2P model is inherently cannibalistic. players can hop at the drop of a hat to try the new kid on the block constantly. there is simply no way to stop them since the entry level fees dont exist.

the more free games release, the more cutthroating the market becomes, and the most they have to monetize their players in order to survive.

and funny enough, the more y

ou try to monetize your playerbase, the most people leaves because "the game went pay to win", and they will hop to the new free game that just released, which in 6mo/1year will find itself in the same situation and will have to start "forcing" their players to spend to get some profits.

rinse, repeat. 

 

the F2P model is a bubble worse than the housing bubble, and its getting closer and closer to burst as days go by and more games turn to F2P.

  Xasapis

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2/27/12 6:10:39 PM#54
Originally posted by Sector13
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There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

Regarding combat speed, are you talking from experience?

From what I've seen from videos, the combat of GW2 and TSW seem very similar. Tera's combat is something entirely different to the MMOs released so far. It's not just the tab-less system, it's mainly because they managed to get my eyes off the quicbar and the healthbars (when I'm a healer) and directly into the action. No MMORPG has managed to do that until now. The best they could managed was me spamming the key so it fires off the moment it was off cooldown.

I'm hopeful that GW2 has managed to capture the same feeling regarding combat, allowing me to direct my abilities by just looking at the action. I do reserve the right for an opinion though until after I played the game, unlike all those hopeful people who try real hard to convince us about the validity of their argument, without having any personal experience.

  rexzshadow

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2/27/12 8:07:18 PM#55
Originally posted by Sector13
Originally posted by rexzshadow
Originally posted by Arcona

Best thing about Tera is the combat

here is Guild Wars 2 combat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4

Looks like Guild wars 2 gives Tera a close fight in that area :)

No not even close, its still targeted combat with much more freedom in movement. if you notice you can move way in middle of attack and you can see the sword just hitting empty air yet ir still register as a hit. Just like most tab target mmorpg once the skill/attack goes off you can't dodge it unless you use a dodge skill. Tera there are hit boxes where if you don't reach teh hitbox its not a hit. GW2 is dynamic combat, a more polished up verison of tab target combat system you have, not where is it near the hack and slash of Tera's action combat. But if thats what you perfer than more power to you.

There are clearly parts of the video where the attack will miss just by being a little out of the way, so there is some type of hitbox in the game. Also, there were hits where it hit multiple enemies while only one was targetted, another sign of hitboxes. I personally prefer GW2s combat over TERA cause GW2s combat is at least of a decent speed. TERA combat is more like for new players to action games.

GW2 combat

This video clearly show an auto lock on for ranged class. But since almost no one has played GW2 yet we will see once Beta comes out, but from what i see its not remotely close to any action games.

  Xirik

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2/27/12 10:17:41 PM#56

I don't know why this thread isn't locked yet.

All its turned into is gw2 fanboys showing videos about how "awesome" a game that they haven't played. I do believe they have there own forum for that?

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  stayontarget

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2/28/12 1:40:07 AM#57

If only all games could run this good:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3pnSpgLNE&feature=related  Not bad for an open world, free aim, collision detection game.

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  Sector13

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2/28/12 8:40:18 AM#58
Originally posted by stayontarget

If only all games could run this good:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3pnSpgLNE&feature=related  Not bad for an open world, free aim, collision detection game.

People used to show off how great mass PvP was in Warhammer then 2 months after release it became worthless. People will complain that people are overhyping GW2, which is true, but it's not like TERA is any different. Just because there is no tab targetting and uses hit boxes doesn't always mean the combat is better in the long run or that people wont get bored of it.

  synn

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3/01/12 5:09:22 AM#59

i seriously doubt tera will go f2p within the first year of release. I do think that the region bans will be lifted within the first three months though since the only numbers that matter from a business standpoint is the amount of paid subscribers they have and with region bans implemented they are probably losing a hefty amount of possible subscribers that consist of military, DoD employees, contractors, civilians that work or go to achool in those areas, and of course their family members.

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