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  User Deleted
2/01/13 3:14:51 AM#41
Originally posted by Eluldor

playing games that are like concentration camps

Funny thing is that all games that he mentions as "deeper" are/were 10 times worse in that respect lol

Nostalgia got a better of me when L2 went F2P so i gave it a go after quite a while, and man, i dont really want to play it again, didnt even make it to second class change (and its VERY fast now compared to before). Past things are better left in past, and  comparing those games with GW2 is like comparing Ford T with McLaren F1.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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There... are... four... lights!

2/01/13 5:19:15 AM#42

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

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  darkblight

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OP  2/01/13 6:53:54 AM#43
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

i had 5 max level characters in swtor ( game is also trash)

i max leveled the archer character in AOC ( game was trash)

max leveled / pvp rank a shaman in warhammer ( game was trash )

got to a competitive level in Darkfall ( game is trash )

leveled several characters in Dragons Nest ( trash)

Played to level 60 in diablo III ( trashhhh)

continued to play SWG after NGE ( trash)

yeah, i have played alot of bad games, like i said i give them a fair shot. 

 

there is nothing new about GW2.. world completions? you kidding me? --- thats your content?

 

we used to have worlds we could interact with, form alliances in build cities, loot players houses, be a good or bad character ( anti - pk, or theif/ pk)

 

fight over territory in the real game world, not a instance... have long super epic quest chains only a few on the server could complete for god like items ( eq2)

 

We used to have cool itemization ( diblo 2) and instead trade it in for gold farming and borring mlp farming ( d3)

 

Even guild wars 1 had a highly competitive pvp arena with well thought out teams battling for top in world slots.. and now we have a sloppy wvwvw with horrible collision mechanics that devolve into zergs we cannot even see on the screen.

 

you offer a opinion that is negative, you are a troll or have not played. 

 

you tell people you have played and challenge them to a fight to show you are a superior player, then you are a child. 

 

you show the fact you played the game, and went through the content, and suddenly you are not allowed to not like the game because you actually played it. 

 

most of the reviewers who played this game and rated it high prob leveled to maybe 20-30 and are wowed by some dynamic event (which is a rip off of warhammer and rift) that is really just a satic quest minue the exclimation points. 

i thought wow was bad for mmo's , but if people end up loving this trash then the format is truely dead. 

  Volkon

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2/01/13 7:05:51 AM#44
Originally posted by darkblight
Snippage..

Tell me there, Dark... any games that you do like? Any of them have a constantly changing and evolving world, with permanent, slowly introduced content that will, in all actuality, change the game forever? (I haven't played most of the games you listed, so I honestly don't know.)

 

Why are you comparing GW1 arena combat with WvW when you should be comparing it to the fledgling sPvP?

 

Yes, this game is different from older MMOs, vastly different. However, different doesn't equate to trash. This exceptional game is far from being trash, as are vastly different older games that I have no interest in playing.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  fiontar

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2/01/13 6:07:39 PM#45
Originally posted by FARGIN_WAR
Originally posted by Volkon
There should be a special practice forum for trolls so we don't have to wind up tolerating amateur attempts such as this. Twice-chewed and regurgigated talking points. Oy.

While I kinda agree with you, I fail to see how you group of regulars that jump into every one of these kind of threads every time anybody farts in GW2's general direction is any less of a waste of everyone's time. Including your own.

I don't think either faction is guiltless in wasting people's time filling up these forums with numerous posts rehashing the same old crap.

Actually, since not everyone who reads the posts in the GW2 forum have been doing so long enough to spot  inaccuracies in posts like the OP, it's productive for the record to be set straight before someone new to the game gets the wrong idea about what the game is actually like.

I don't see the point of "attack posts" vs. the game, which almost always clearly cross the line seperating opinion and deliberate lies, nor do I see the point of posts whining about how diligent the forum regulars are at correcting inaccuracies. I mean, realy, what does that add to any thread?

 

 

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

  Jockan

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2/01/13 6:37:14 PM#46
Originally posted by darkblight
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

i had 5 max level characters in swtor ( game is also trash)

i max leveled the archer character in AOC ( game was trash)

max leveled / pvp rank a shaman in warhammer ( game was trash )

got to a competitive level in Darkfall ( game is trash )

leveled several characters in Dragons Nest ( trash)

Played to level 60 in diablo III ( trashhhh)

continued to play SWG after NGE ( trash)

yeah, i have played alot of bad games, like i said i give them a fair shot. 

 

there is nothing new about GW2.. world completions? you kidding me? --- thats your content?

 

we used to have worlds we could interact with, form alliances in build cities, loot players houses, be a good or bad character ( anti - pk, or theif/ pk)

 

fight over territory in the real game world, not a instance... have long super epic quest chains only a few on the server could complete for god like items ( eq2)

 

We used to have cool itemization ( diblo 2) and instead trade it in for gold farming and borring mlp farming ( d3)

 

Even guild wars 1 had a highly competitive pvp arena with well thought out teams battling for top in world slots.. and now we have a sloppy wvwvw with horrible collision mechanics that devolve into zergs we cannot even see on the screen.

 

you offer a opinion that is negative, you are a troll or have not played. 

 

you tell people you have played and challenge them to a fight to show you are a superior player, then you are a child. 

 

you show the fact you played the game, and went through the content, and suddenly you are not allowed to not like the game because you actually played it. 

 

most of the reviewers who played this game and rated it high prob leveled to maybe 20-30 and are wowed by some dynamic event (which is a rip off of warhammer and rift) that is really just a satic quest minue the exclimation points. 

i thought wow was bad for mmo's , but if people end up loving this trash then the format is truely dead. 

 

 

 

I feel your pain, trust me. Just hang in there a little while longer because like I have said over and over again real mmos are comming.

  Gaia_Hunter

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2/01/13 6:40:17 PM#47

I like how apparently a 1vs1 makes a player superior.

In GW2 1vs1 is not something people will experience loads since there is no duels so it needs to be setup via sPvP.

Second it would be easy to just post 3 screenshots of those level 80 players with a line "I'm this dude from MMORPG forums". and maybe add a /age in there.

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  Amjoco

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2/01/13 6:40:37 PM#48
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by darkblight
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

 

 

 

I feel your pain, trust me. Just hang in there a little while longer because like I have said over and over again real mmos are comming.

 I haven't posted in a couple weeks, and I didn't want to start trouble, but didn't you say that before Tera came out?  /shrug

edit: snip

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  Jockan

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2/01/13 6:45:09 PM#49
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by darkblight
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

 

 

 

I feel your pain, trust me. Just hang in there a little while longer because like I have said over and over again real mmos are comming.

 I haven't posted in a couple weeks, and I didn't want to start trouble, but didn't you say that before Tera came out?  /shrug

edit: snip

 

 

Probaly did because I have been saying it ever since I laid my eyes on ArcheAge.

  Amjoco

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Joined: 9/15/10
Posts: 3733

2/01/13 6:47:32 PM#50
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by darkblight
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard

So a guy comes, bashes the game, saying it is, I quote, "trash", and yet he admits he has 3 level 80 characters in that same game... doesn't that ring a bell? And alarm, even? Come on, guys, you aren't forum noobs, most of you are seasoned posters at least here.

Even someone who would never have played GW2 could tell what the OP is...

 

 

 

I feel your pain, trust me. Just hang in there a little while longer because like I have said over and over again real mmos are comming.

 I haven't posted in a couple weeks, and I didn't want to start trouble, but didn't you say that before Tera came out?  /shrug

edit: snip

 

 

Probaly did because I have been saying it ever since I laid my eyes on ArcheAge.

Hmm, ok I will give you that one! :)

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  Torvaldr

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2/01/13 6:57:18 PM#51
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by darkblight
Snippage..

Tell me there, Dark... any games that you do like? Any of them have a constantly changing and evolving world, with permanent, slowly introduced content that will, in all actuality, change the game forever? (I haven't played most of the games you listed, so I honestly don't know.)

Why are you comparing GW1 arena combat with WvW when you should be comparing it to the fledgling sPvP?

Yes, this game is different from older MMOs, vastly different. However, different doesn't equate to trash. This exceptional game is far from being trash, as are vastly different older games that I have no interest in playing.

I feel sort of bad for people who hate most every game or can only like a couple games from ancient history that gave them a special buzz for a bit.

Maybe it's because I'm a gamer and not just an mmo player, or maybe I'm just easily pleased, but I've liked or appreciated in some way most every game I've played.  I love trying new games.  I do think life is too short to waste time level capping several characters and then bitch about how horrible it was.  I can only think that life must sort of suck for those people.

I loved Lineage.  It was one of the best games I've ever played.  But I also loved LotRO, Guild Wars, Dungeon Runners, AoC and tons more.  I still love GW2, EQ2, TSW, Tera (that was a nice surprise), STO, and tons more.  I didn't like Ryzom, Vanguard (surprising because I love EQ2), or Tabula Rasa, but I don't think they're junk.  There was just other games I wanted to play.

I still think GW2 is one of the most brilliant game worlds out right now.  I can understand it's not for some people.  Guild Wars wasn't for a lot of people either.  That's just me though.

I think a mind wipe so people could play an mmo like it was their first time again, would be easier to build than a new mmo people here would actually like. - DamonVile

  dynamicipftw

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2/01/13 7:08:36 PM#52

I'm a PvPer so I'll talk about PvP.

it's a very beautiful game but it doesn't give players a purpose or a reason to play. GW2 fans might say that you play to have fun, but that isn't enough. 

For example in daoc you wanted to progress to 1) get as high PvP rank as possible and make your character all powerful. 2) help your realm "win" the 3 faction war by taking relics 2) build a reputation amongst your allies and enemies. Make them respect you and fear you. 4) help your guild become feared/respected etc.

In WoW you wanted to progress again for fame / power / reputation / arena ranking etc.

GW2 on the other hand doesn't have much of a power progression. You are playing with and against different players each day (since transferring servers was free and is still way too easy). You can't see your enemies guilds or names and they change every 2 weeks. There is no PvP progression, and 90% of the time the WvW matchup is already either won or lost and nothing you do will change the outcome. Colin Jonanson himself admitted that they need to make WvW more competitive and give players personal progression and a reason to go out and PvP even when the 2-week matchup is already lost. Hopefully they get it right this time because ESO is coming and it's promising a game built around world PvP.

 

 

I don't really care about sPvP (never liked instanced small scale PvP)

  jtcgs

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2/01/13 7:15:21 PM#53
Originally posted by darkblight

MIKAHR:

 

duel you for character deletion?

 

played it since release, 3 lvl 80's

 

the game is trash.

 

deeper game than GW2?  --  A Bunch of games thats been out for many years with tons of content added which I shall include to be fair.

 

love the you don't drink the kool aid you never played it argument.

 

 

bug again, as i care nothing for the account, duel me for character deletion.. unless you are scarred?

 Fixed that for you.

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  Pivotelite

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2/01/13 7:23:09 PM#54
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP claims to have three lvl 80's in a game that he has called trash...makes sense..............

  You know I believe him, I have a friend who started playing GW2, was consumed by the new MMO smell, bought gold, crafted up 4 80s, joined a heavy WvW guild on SBI, played for like a month non-stop, then came in vent one day, started raging the game is a piece of crap, un-installed it from his computer and started playing TERA again.

 

Some people are very interesting indeed.

  eyelolled

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2/01/13 7:28:55 PM#55
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP claims to have three lvl 80's in a game that he has called trash...makes sense..............

  You know I believe him, I have a friend who started playing GW2, was consumed by the new MMO smell, bought gold, crafted up 4 80s, joined a heavy WvW guild on SBI, played for like a month non-stop, then came in vent one day, started raging the game is a piece of crap, un-installed it from his computer and started playing TERA again.

 

Some people are very interesting indeed.

You know, I don't believe him, and I don't believe you either.  Make a difference? No.   So regardless of the potential for it to be valid, it still makes little sense.

All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

  SirFubar

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2/01/13 7:29:57 PM#56
Originally posted by darkblight

MIKAHR:

 

duel you for character deletion?

 

played it since release, 3 lvl 80's

 

the game is trash.

 

deeper game than GW2?  -- easy, path of exiles, Doac, SwG, UO, EQ2, Lineage 1/ 2, even runes of magic.

 

love the you don't drink the kool aid you never played it argument.

 

 

bug again, as i care nothing for the account, duel me for character deletion.. unless you are scarred?

I've stop reading after seeing he included those 2 games. Path of Exile and Runes of Magic have more depth?? LOL yeah maybe in the form of character specialisation but that's about it. And in case you didn't know, the most choices you gives for character specialisation, the more chances the game will be a lot more imbalance for PvP.

And WoW's arena better than GW2 sPvP?? Yeah like the arena's map were any good. Any devs can create a small square put a bridge or some pillars in the middle and call it a map... Itemization a joke? Sure it's may not have as much depth to it than most other games but to say that it does very little is completely false. Like the other guy metionned, "Itemization/build can COMPLETELY change how your class plays from glass cannon to bunker build."

  Pivotelite

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2/01/13 7:37:25 PM#57
Originally posted by eyelolled
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Mardukk

OP claims to have three lvl 80's in a game that he has called trash...makes sense..............

  You know I believe him, I have a friend who started playing GW2, was consumed by the new MMO smell, bought gold, crafted up 4 80s, joined a heavy WvW guild on SBI, played for like a month non-stop, then came in vent one day, started raging the game is a piece of crap, un-installed it from his computer and started playing TERA again.

 

Some people are very interesting indeed.

You know, I don't believe him, and I don't believe you either.  Make a difference? No.   So regardless of the potential for it to be valid, it still makes little sense.

 I know, but i'm dead serious about my friend, he's not the only one either, I have another one who leveled a few 80s even got a damn legendary then quit calling the game utter trash for casuals and he now plays DOTA.

 

I swear, people have issues and this is why no MMOs retain players. I had like 6-7 friends that never came back to TERA even though they only took a break to play GW2 but didn't play GW2 either then decided to go play other stuff. Felt bad man. 

  strangepowers

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2/01/13 7:57:25 PM#58


Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Icewhite

Originally posted by Mannish Its always good to just let it all out.
Always?    In tightly packed elevators? Silent but deadly, ftw.
If it's silent, those are the best places. 

Honestly if you are feeling ballsey, letting a loud one rip in the elevator is even better! Be loud, be proud!

The scary part is one day the world will be run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating.

  breadm1x

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2/06/13 10:42:57 PM#59

GW2 has large scale PVP ?

Must have been playing somthing else then the last 5 months.

maybe if they actualy made an engine that can handle large player groups but this engine cant.

And trust me it is never going to happen neither the engine just sucks.

Should have gone with eu3.5 or so that would work.

(even when its from 2004 it would look better to).

 

  User Deleted
2/06/13 11:03:40 PM#60

From OP:

This is a great game for a first time mmo player, to teach them the bare minimum a game can offer and be a mmo, but for any depth look elsewhere.

 

Well said.

 

Posted by mikahr

2. Its better than DAOC in more ways than its worse. Rose colored glasses bro

With this statement, you invalidate any credibility you have on anything you say in the future about MMOs. Seriously, educate yourself on our genre, I'm not going to be gentle about this in any way. There is no MMO out there currently that is even remotely close to the rvr/pvp quality of DAoC, NOTHING. GW2 can't even address simple graphics issues in WvWvW, and you want to say it's better? It's at the bottom of the pile of stinking refuse because of that issue alone!

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