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  Aerowyn

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Posts: 7969

1/24/13 6:14:20 PM#161
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  kadepsyson

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Joined: 5/15/06
Posts: 1965

The doctors say his chances are 50/50...but there's only a 10% chance of that.

1/24/13 6:22:12 PM#162
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

El Psy Congroo

  Aerowyn

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Joined: 2/20/12
Posts: 7969

1/24/13 6:25:55 PM#163
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

yea if there's to many people even with scaling it will just be too easy but that's pretty much standard for most MMOs in my experience

I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4694

GW2 socialist.

1/24/13 11:16:20 PM#164

So Neobahamut just chatted while he killed things, and while hitting 2 or 3?  Yeah ok, only that doesn't work on a lot of mobs who are programmed to go for you and not your pet, Arctodus for example.  *shakes head*  You would have to move or you'd take unnecessary damage and with veteran mobs, most likely die.  As others have pointed out, the inconsistencies in your posts leave me wondering if you really played the game at all.

Apart from that, if you were meaning to prove that all weapon skills are just different pixels, then you weren't just hitting 2 or 3 with the sword, or you'd actually be moving since 2 bounces you back and forth between your target, as opposed to the 2 skill on a longbow where you fire multiple arrows.

Sounds so similar.  You fraud.

  Dreamo84

Defender of Worlds

Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 2757

I actually still like MMORPGs

1/24/13 11:51:44 PM#165

First themepark MMO to really feel "massive". The way you are always grouped with every other player, it can be exciting. I actually feel like i'm part of a massive roleplaying game rather than just soloing my own quests and queueing for dungeons with random people.

For the people who say its like "playing next to others" that is what every other themepark MMO is like. You do your quests on your own and everyone else does the same. In GW2 you actually help each other. Its thrilling to have an NPC run up to me while i'm not expecting it and ask me for help. Then I rush to where the assistance is need to find other players flowing in, also to comabt this threat.

Yes, generally its not a social experience when you are doing DEs. but it is still more multiplayer than every other themepark. And i have often had social experiences when i reach out and speak to people they are receptive. I've even found people and asked for help and they come and help me. Then we've continued to adventure together. People want to be forced to talk and forced to group. But GW2 isnt going to do that.

  Dreamo84

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Posts: 2757

I actually still like MMORPGs

1/24/13 11:55:36 PM#166
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by neobahamut20

I only use 3 skills because its all I need to win the fight. My utility skills were sprints and anti-stun. My elite skill was only used against elite mobs, the soloable ones. I weapon switch for range, because it is a requirement for many fights in instances and against many event mobs where melee gets obliterated.

I dont find anything fun in varying a playstyle just as a change of pace especially when I died more often from falling than mobs on my way to 80. I also tried playing other classes, I do have 7 character slots. They were all the same shit so I stopped pretty quickly. I logged in the other day and had guildies begging for help to kill a dragon. That's when you realize no one cares about the game when dragons dont even attract enough people to kill it.

 

It's amazing how quickly a line of text can shatter your credibility. To think you're trying to sell us that a warrior plays like a mesmer plays like a necro plays like a ranger... dude. Just stop. No one is buying this guano. You're going up against reality and faring poorly.

Again, pretty pixels on a screen are only significant for a certain group of people. If that is all you need, then lucky you I guess, it'll keep you happy long time given the current trend. I, however, want something more, I want actual differences. Having to use a skill at a 1200 or 800 range is the same playstyle. Your guardian can be (actually still is I believe) more effective at range than a ranger. But hey, he doesnt have a drawing of a bear in front of him so it MUST be different.

Don't even pretend like you've actually played the game. Your posts only prove you have not. The actual differences in the weapon sets is vast within a single class even let alone seperate classes. Even you point out a warrior can be better at range. How can they be better if its just different pixels? lol you are just talking out your ass because you like another game that is failing i'm sure.

  User Deleted
1/25/13 2:38:50 AM#167
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

More people makes thing easier. Thats why people generally group. As i understand it most events (if not all) are only scalable 1-10 (group in like 5-10) people, think they said tehyre working on scaling for more people.

But somehow certain type of people started convincing everyone that more people makes things harder and requires better rewards lol

  Volkon

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Facts do not require fiction for balance.

1/25/13 7:38:59 AM#168
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

Interesting... since the Champion Giants I've seen tend to move and have large AoE attacks that can even hit you at range if you don't dodge or otherwise avoid them. Of course, if it moves out of range you'll stop attacking altogether. 

 

Oh wait... yep, this confirms it. My BS meter is spiking when I hold it near your post.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Gaia_Hunter

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Posts: 2555

1/25/13 8:05:39 AM#169
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

Interesting... since the Champion Giants I've seen tend to move and have large AoE attacks that can even hit you at range if you don't dodge or otherwise avoid them. Of course, if it moves out of range you'll stop attacking altogether. 

 

Oh wait... yep, this confirms it. My BS meter is spiking when I hold it near your post.

He probably was rezzed a few times. :)

Currently playing: GW2
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  botrytis

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Posts: 2445

1/25/13 8:17:41 AM#170
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

Interesting... since the Champion Giants I've seen tend to move and have large AoE attacks that can even hit you at range if you don't dodge or otherwise avoid them. Of course, if it moves out of range you'll stop attacking altogether. 

 

Oh wait... yep, this confirms it. My BS meter is spiking when I hold it near your post.

He probably was rezzed a few times. :)

Sorry - once you rez - you don't auto attack. He is just blowing smoke.

 

 

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  Paladrink

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Posts: 46

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

1/25/13 8:19:12 AM#171
Originally posted by Noxxumari
So I finally got the game, and it plays great on my mac. Its a HARD mmo to play.

Stopped reading there.

What we do in life, echoes in eternity.

  L0C0Man

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Posts: 919

1/25/13 8:30:09 AM#172
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

Interesting... since the Champion Giants I've seen tend to move and have large AoE attacks that can even hit you at range if you don't dodge or otherwise avoid them. Of course, if it moves out of range you'll stop attacking altogether. 

 

Oh wait... yep, this confirms it. My BS meter is spiking when I hold it near your post.

He probably was rezzed a few times. :)

Sorry - once you rez - you don't auto attack. He is just blowing smoke.

 

 

Well, I guess it can happen early in the game, champion mobs tend to be much simpler in the earlier levels (I'd say 30 and below). That said, sometimes the system that recognizes participation on events seems to be wonky sometimes, I've had times where I've joined an event relatively late (short before a champion mob dies, for example) but attack heavily during those last moments and not even get a bronze medal, and other times I've just run past an event, barely even noticing it and much less participating, and several minutes later I suddenly get a participation award for it.

What can men do against such reckless hate?

  botrytis

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Posts: 2445

1/25/13 8:32:59 AM#173
Originally posted by L0C0Man
Originally posted by botrytis
Originally posted by Gaia_Hunter
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn
Originally posted by kadepsyson
Originally posted by Aerowyn

lol i edited my post nice catch

In any event, yeah GW2 often found me dying when I was taken by surprise.  I was usually surprised because of a distraction or having just tried the game after something of a break.

It's one that can leave you in last stand wondering "How did that happen so fast?"  Not a bad thing.

one thing i found is the spawn rate in GW2 in many areas is really high as is the mob density.. for example we were doing a few group DEs last night and we were doing ok burning down the champion and would of been fine but mobs we had killed respawned and surprised us from the back.. this has happened to me countless times you really need to stay on your toes at all times on the harder events especially now when many aren't so oversaturated.

Yeah I definitely have felt rushed because of rapid respawns.  However, I remember fighing a champion Giant by autoattacking while I was in another room eating dinner because so many people were there picking at him and I was a ranged character.  Came back, cleared the gold medal notification off the screen, and went on my way.

Interesting... since the Champion Giants I've seen tend to move and have large AoE attacks that can even hit you at range if you don't dodge or otherwise avoid them. Of course, if it moves out of range you'll stop attacking altogether. 

 

Oh wait... yep, this confirms it. My BS meter is spiking when I hold it near your post.

He probably was rezzed a few times. :)

Sorry - once you rez - you don't auto attack. He is just blowing smoke.

 

 

Well, I guess it can happen early in the game, champion mobs tend to be much simpler in the earlier levels (I'd say 30 and below). That said, sometimes the system that recognizes participation on events seems to be wonky sometimes, I've had times where I've joined an event relatively late (short before a champion mob dies, for example) but attack heavily during those last moments and not even get a bronze medal, and other times I've just run past an event, barely even noticing it and much less participating, and several minutes later I suddenly get a participation award for it.

The only Giant Champion I found, in the early levels, is the one in the Charr area. HE IS NOT EASY - he has a fear AoE and a knockdown AoE. You need at least 10-15 people to take him down.

"In 50 years, when I talk to my grandchildren about these days, I'll make sure to mention what an accomplished MMO player I was. They are going to be so proud ..."
by Naqaj - 7/17/2013 MMORPG.com forum

  Volkon

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Posts: 3813

Facts do not require fiction for balance.

1/25/13 8:34:46 AM#174
Originally posted by L0C0Man

Well, I guess it can happen early in the game, champion mobs tend to be much simpler in the earlier levels (I'd say 30 and below). That said, sometimes the system that recognizes participation on events seems to be wonky sometimes, I've had times where I've joined an event relatively late (short before a champion mob dies, for example) but attack heavily during those last moments and not even get a bronze medal, and other times I've just run past an event, barely even noticing it and much less participating, and several minutes later I suddenly get a participation award for it.

The only low level Champion Giant I can recall at the moment is the one in the Charr area that keeps taking that town... that dude's brutal at level. If you're ranged, you need to hold right about at max range to be able to hit without his blasts ripping you a new one. He also moves, a lot, so being afk and attacking while surviving is highly improbable. 

 

The most likely scenario here, by Occam, is that he's simply making crap up in order to try and denigrate the game for reasons unknown. 

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Zorgo

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1/25/13 8:44:26 AM#175
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by Torgrim
Originally posted by jpnole
GW2 is really no different from any other MMO.

 

Can you please give me a link to a game that has not quest hubs, no mobs standing still waiting to be killed and with a pure DE mechanic for progression with different outcomes depends if you fail it or succeeds it.

Hearts are quests, anyone who denies that is delusional. Also yes the mobs stand around for you to kill them and the heart(quest) tells you how many to kill. But instead of a number you get a bar, which obviously represents a number you just don't know which one.

 

"Dem spiders here ruinin my trees, squish them so my trees are no more scare for me when pick apple", then you have to "fill your bar" by killing spiders, which is essentially just killing 10 of 10 spiders.

 

You know what's funny?

Hearts wasent even in the game back in beta because people felt lost and didn't know what to do.

Kinda funny now when they are in same people complain GW2 is same ol same ol.

You see heart quest were never intended from the beginning.

Like your example there, Queensdale lvl 8-9 heart quest range, you ever played past that?

You prolly say yes and you have a main who is 80 done everything so i spare a respons...I don't believe you.

It seems to me that GW2 does the same things as other mmo's in a different way.

Opinions seem to be determined by whether an individual puts more weight on the 'the same things' or on 'the different way'.

IMO, GW2 does what other mmo's do, making it the same ol' same ol'.

Yet they do it in a different way, making the 'same ol' same ol' feel refreshing.

That is if you can stand the dialogue. Which I can't.

  Dream_Chaser

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Posts: 1054

1/25/13 9:00:30 AM#176
Originally posted by Zorgo

It seems to me that GW2 does the same things as other mmo's in a different way.

Opinions seem to be determined by whether an individual puts more weight on the 'the same things' or on 'the different way'.

IMO, GW2 does what other mmo's do, making it the same ol' same ol'.

Yet they do it in a different way, making the 'same ol' same ol' feel refreshing.

That is if you can stand the dialogue. Which I can't.

This is exactly right. It's the same old stuff from WoW (with the same old RNG-based combat) that we've always had. A 'new lick of paint' doesn't really change that. Champions Online is way, way more innovative, to be honest, because it at least provides combat that doesn't turn RNG into a crazy fetish (I'm so sick of RNG-based combat).

See, Champions Online had public missions, just like GW2. And GW2's heart missions are just normal quests with the ! (pick-up) and ? (turn-in) parts removed. The problem is though is that by removing that, you also remove much of the story, so GW2 also takwas away from the illusion that you're not working/grinding, and the heart events feel way, way more like grinding than normal quests in GW2 or TERA do. That's depressing.

And dynamic events? CO and WAR had them. And just like in WAR (because WAR was bad at scaling, too), the dynamic event breaks if there aren't enough people around to do it, and considering that most servers are ghost towns between 20-30 and 80 these days, then there are never enough people around to do dynamic events.

Oh... and that damn combat? Barely any different than WoW. The dodge-roll is so vestigial and pointless that it's a joke. Calling GW2 action-based combat is like callilng a Final Fantasy game action-based combat. TERA and CO both come way, way closer to a true action-based combat MMORPG. And after playing something like ME3's multi-player, which is action-based and requires strategy/team tactics, I find GW2 just... wanting and dull.

And the desperation of the people defending it? Too desperate. They're running around the boards like lone rangers trying to hold up the dignity of their poor, wounded corporations. Where as if they were really having fun, they'd be in the game and playing it rather than haunting these boards and attacking anyone who has even a slightly dissenting opinion.

There are better games out there, there are better MMOs out there, and going by the waning population of the game I think people are starting to realise this. GW2 was a new lick of paint, yes, but the paint is tacky, gaudy, and flakes away quickly to reveal the same old crap we've been doing since WoW.

It'll be highly entertaining if TES:O is the last nail in GW2's coffin. Not saying it will be, but it would be funny if it were.

  Volkon

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Posts: 3813

Facts do not require fiction for balance.

1/25/13 9:15:10 AM#177
Originally posted by Dream_Chaser

This is exactly right. It's the same old stuff from WoW (with the same old RNG-based combat) that we've always had. A 'new lick of paint' doesn't really change that. Champions Online is way, way more innovative, to be honest, because it at least provides combat that doesn't turn RNG into a crazy fetish (I'm so sick of RNG-based combat).

See, Champions Online had public missions, just like GW2. And GW2's heart missions are just normal quests with the ! (pick-up) and ? (turn-in) parts removed. The problem is though is that by removing that, you also remove much of the story, so GW2 also takwas away from the illusion that you're not working/grinding, and the heart events feel way, way more like grinding than normal quests in GW2 or TERA do. That's depressing.

And dynamic events? CO and WAR had them. And just like in WAR (because WAR was bad at scaling, too), the dynamic event breaks if there aren't enough people around to do it, and considering that most servers are ghost towns between 20-30 and 80 these days, then there are never enough people around to do dynamic events.

Oh... and that damn combat? Barely any different than WoW. The dodge-roll is so vestigial and pointless that it's a joke. Calling GW2 action-based combat is like callilng a Final Fantasy game action-based combat. TERA and CO both come way, way closer to a true action-based combat MMORPG. And after playing something like ME3's multi-player, which is action-based and requires strategy/team tactics, I find GW2 just... wanting and dull.

And the desperation of the people defending it? Too desperate. They're running around the boards like lone rangers trying to hold up the dignity of their poor, wounded corporations. Where as if they were really having fun, they'd be in the game and playing it rather than haunting these boards and attacking anyone who has even a slightly dissenting opinion.

There are better games out there, there are better MMOs out there, and going by the waning population of the game I think people are starting to realise this. GW2 was a new lick of paint, yes, but the paint is tacky, gaudy, and flakes away quickly to reveal the same old crap we've been doing since WoW.

It'll be highly entertaining if TES:O is the last nail in GW2's coffin. Not saying it will be, but it would be funny if it were.

 

You're trying way, way too hard. At least base trolling somewhat in facts to give the illusion you know what you're talking about. Comparing the combat as being WoW-like is a joke, they're markedly different, even including the dodging (which I use as an offensive weapon on my mesmer). The lie about most DEs breaking without enough people... most are scaled down to one person with spefically the ones labeled "Group Event" requiring more. But I look through and see the same regurgitated and rebuked lies I've seen before, then I see you call the "people defending it" desperate... it makes one wonder why you're so desperately trying to denigrate a game you apparently don't even play nor have a working knowledge of.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  Torgrim

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Posts: 2125

1/25/13 9:39:09 AM#178
Originally posted by Dream_Chaser
Originally posted by Zorgo

It seems to me that GW2 does the same things as other mmo's in a different way.

Opinions seem to be determined by whether an individual puts more weight on the 'the same things' or on 'the different way'.

IMO, GW2 does what other mmo's do, making it the same ol' same ol'.

Yet they do it in a different way, making the 'same ol' same ol' feel refreshing.

That is if you can stand the dialogue. Which I can't.


And the desperation of the people defending it? Too desperate. They're running around the boards like lone rangers trying to hold up the dignity of their poor, wounded corporations.

 

And what's makes you then, The Crusader of light bringer to blind fanbois?

If it's not broken, you are not innovating.

  neobahamut20

Hard Core Member

Joined: 4/03/12
Posts: 351

We can only show them the path, but they have to be the ones to take it.

1/25/13 11:54:13 AM#179
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by neobahamut20

I only use 3 skills because its all I need to win the fight. My utility skills were sprints and anti-stun. My elite skill was only used against elite mobs, the soloable ones. I weapon switch for range, because it is a requirement for many fights in instances and against many event mobs where melee gets obliterated.

I dont find anything fun in varying a playstyle just as a change of pace especially when I died more often from falling than mobs on my way to 80. I also tried playing other classes, I do have 7 character slots. They were all the same shit so I stopped pretty quickly. I logged in the other day and had guildies begging for help to kill a dragon. That's when you realize no one cares about the game when dragons dont even attract enough people to kill it.

 

It's amazing how quickly a line of text can shatter your credibility. To think you're trying to sell us that a warrior plays like a mesmer plays like a necro plays like a ranger... dude. Just stop. No one is buying this guano. You're going up against reality and faring poorly.

Again, pretty pixels on a screen are only significant for a certain group of people. If that is all you need, then lucky you I guess, it'll keep you happy long time given the current trend. I, however, want something more, I want actual differences. Having to use a skill at a 1200 or 800 range is the same playstyle. Your guardian can be (actually still is I believe) more effective at range than a ranger. But hey, he doesnt have a drawing of a bear in front of him so it MUST be different.

OK... now you're babbling. By your alleged attempt at a definition, all games are the same being "pixels", so why are you even here? If you can't see the differences in the skills in GW2 then you simply haven't looked and refudse to do so. It's the secondary and tertiary effects of the skills that make them stand out, and the varying playstyles of each profession that that results in. A mesmer, for example, is about confusing the enemy and their targeting getting them to spread their damage uselessly through confusion. It's about having enough control over their actions that you can get them to kill or severly damage themselves. It's about being there while you're not there unless you are there instead of here, or neither.

 

You are not ready.

Do you even know what a RPG is? That's why I'm here.

Obviously, by this and some other posts of yours you either are a very incompetant player for finding anything in this game even remotely challenging or a troll acting like a noob. The problem with you is I dont know if its trolling or just plain stupidity. Nice job repeating the sales pitch for the mesmer though, I really needed that...

Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.

  Gaia_Hunter

Elite Member

Joined: 5/04/12
Posts: 2555

1/25/13 12:11:09 PM#180
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by neobahamut20
Originally posted by Volkon
Originally posted by neobahamut20

I only use 3 skills because its all I need to win the fight. My utility skills were sprints and anti-stun. My elite skill was only used against elite mobs, the soloable ones. I weapon switch for range, because it is a requirement for many fights in instances and against many event mobs where melee gets obliterated.

I dont find anything fun in varying a playstyle just as a change of pace especially when I died more often from falling than mobs on my way to 80. I also tried playing other classes, I do have 7 character slots. They were all the same shit so I stopped pretty quickly. I logged in the other day and had guildies begging for help to kill a dragon. That's when you realize no one cares about the game when dragons dont even attract enough people to kill it.

 

It's amazing how quickly a line of text can shatter your credibility. To think you're trying to sell us that a warrior plays like a mesmer plays like a necro plays like a ranger... dude. Just stop. No one is buying this guano. You're going up against reality and faring poorly.

Again, pretty pixels on a screen are only significant for a certain group of people. If that is all you need, then lucky you I guess, it'll keep you happy long time given the current trend. I, however, want something more, I want actual differences. Having to use a skill at a 1200 or 800 range is the same playstyle. Your guardian can be (actually still is I believe) more effective at range than a ranger. But hey, he doesnt have a drawing of a bear in front of him so it MUST be different.

OK... now you're babbling. By your alleged attempt at a definition, all games are the same being "pixels", so why are you even here? If you can't see the differences in the skills in GW2 then you simply haven't looked and refudse to do so. It's the secondary and tertiary effects of the skills that make them stand out, and the varying playstyles of each profession that that results in. A mesmer, for example, is about confusing the enemy and their targeting getting them to spread their damage uselessly through confusion. It's about having enough control over their actions that you can get them to kill or severly damage themselves. It's about being there while you're not there unless you are there instead of here, or neither.

 

You are not ready.

Do you even know what a RPG is? That's why I'm here.

Obviously, by this and some other posts of yours you either are a very incompetant player for finding anything in this game even remotely challenging or a troll acting like a noob. The problem with you is I dont know if its trolling or just plain stupidity. Nice job repeating the sales pitch for the mesmer though, I really needed that...

Which RPG, the original ones that put a player in control of a character in a fantasy storyline that would take decisions or the more oriented statistical games videogames that degenerated (in my opinion) from it?

Currently playing: GW2
Cooperative (semi cooperative)board games you should check: Pandemic, Sentinels of the Multiverse, Eldritch Horror, Descent 2.0,Level 7 Omega Protocol, Last Night on Earth

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