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  botrytis

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12/22/12 9:56:58 PM#41
OP - you don't care - you want to complain that it is not going your way. Post on the official forum, not on another where you can get 'haters' to chime in.

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  Tiller

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12/22/12 11:01:22 PM#42
Originally posted by teotius
People just med because they cannot get legendaries in one week. U have to actually earn it through some hc grinding.

naw, a lot of the items are needed for general crafting, and with such small profit margins in crafted gear anyways, the low drop rates cause players to go to market for high priced mats that were set at unreasonably high prices, which cause the crafted itme to cost more to make then the profit off the item itself. This causes folks to just sell their items at these prices as well instead of crafting with them. It becomes a never ending cycle.


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  Pivotelite

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12/22/12 11:24:18 PM#43
Originally posted by botrytis
OP - you don't care - you want to complain that it is not going your way. Post on the official forum, not on another where you can get 'haters' to chime in.

 There used to be a lot of so called "haters" on the Anet forum but they left when every post that wasn't pro-GW2 was getting them temp banned.

 

People with constructive posts regarding actual problems are not haters, but they do bring out the problems with GW2 and to the GMs over at the official forums that's "hating" so we get slapped with the banhammer, honestly, it's part of the reason I quit.

 

Want to see how a moderator who actually cares about their game responds? The people working over on GW2 forums have no idea about their own game and don't care about it, they just work for their paycheck. 

 

http://i.imgur.com/eoZ4f.png

 

What do you think is more likely to get the message across, temp banning someone with no reason or that response? You would have to be a complete jerk to continue acting the way you did after receiving a message like the one I got from Minea.

 

I think the icing on the cake was that they implemented the fix to the problem I was complaining about in that thread Minea PMd me about in the following weekly patch.

  GrayGhost79

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12/22/12 11:31:41 PM#44
Originally posted by Pivotelite
Originally posted by botrytis
OP - you don't care - you want to complain that it is not going your way. Post on the official forum, not on another where you can get 'haters' to chime in.

 There used to be a lot of so called "haters" on the Anet forum but they left when every post that wasn't pro-GW2 was getting them temp banned.

 

People with constructive posts regarding actual problems are not haters, but they do bring out the problems with GW2 and to the GMs over at the official forums that's "hating" so we get slapped with the banhammer, honestly, it's part of the reason I quit.

 

Want to see how a moderator who actually cares about their game responds? The people working over on GW2 forums have no idea about their own game and don't care about it, they just work for their paycheck. 

 

http://i.imgur.com/eoZ4f.png

 

What do you think is more likely to get the message across, temp banning someone with no reason or that response? You would have to be a complete jerk to continue acting the way you did after receiving a message like the one I got from Minea.

 

I think the icing on the cake was that they implemented the change I was complaining about in the thread I made in the following patch note.

There are a lot of posts and threads that are about problems, issues, and concerns and presented in a constuctive manner. So since your statement can be proven false or simply found to be false by anyone with a couple of minutes on their hands what does that say?

 

Secondly are you saying the thread the OP linked is a pro GW2 thread with nothing but Pro GW2 comments?

 

  Pivotelite

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12/22/12 11:37:02 PM#45

Honestly, I have no idea how it is now, I left when they were super trigger happy about 2 months after release, i'll assume with the decline in playerbase they've become more lenient, who knows.

 

But I remember talking with people from our server about the WvW forums and we had all been banned before for simple complaints about problems with WvW.

 

The WvW forum was probably the worst place to be, constantly deleting the matchup thread, locking them, purging posts, locking for mass edits, banning people in waves.

  Silentstorm

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12/22/12 11:40:10 PM#46
Btw in WVW on a high pop map you can absolutely SUCK at pvp. And still get loot drops and gold on a massive scale.
  Ghavrigg

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12/22/12 11:45:36 PM#47
Originally posted by botrytis
OP - you don't care - you want to complain that it is not going your way. Post on the official forum, not on another where you can get 'haters' to chime in.

He was reposting what he posted on the official forums... a quick click of the link in the OP would have shown you that.

  neve1272

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12/23/12 8:42:41 AM#48

OP was on that thread on the forums with sevaral posts

weeks of good feed back was simply dismissed

  Rusque

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12/23/12 9:03:40 AM#49

"You and your company need to realize with whom you are dealing with.

From all the posts I read here I can surely affirm that in this thread have posted people with twice your age, with family and huge responsabilities, with professional careers that would pale the careers of all your staff put together and with effective and executive power in their everyday businesses that most of you can not even dream of."

 

Bwahahahaha, you did not seriously send that to them? You have to be a teenager or a 40 year living in his mom's basement, there's no way you're a working adult - let alone high powered executive. lol

  Scalpless

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12/23/12 9:28:00 AM#50
ANet's handling of this issue hasn't been ideal, but I honestly don't know what you're so upset about. The whole post sounds more than a bit childish TBH.
  VendettaDFA

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12/23/12 9:36:55 AM#51

The OP is a bit melodramatic , but ...... why would ANET reply in this way? They coded the patch, so they should definitively know that either they did or did not nerf loot drops. Unless they want to admit publicly that they haven't a clue how to program their own game. I doubt that is the case. More likely this is a stall while they review the results of the patch financially, comparing gem purchases,refund requests and increase or decrease in player activity across servers.

I got out long ago over other issues, but this is one more reason not to get back in. Very evasive response.

  Scalpless

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12/23/12 10:07:16 AM#52
Originally posted by VendettaDFA

The OP is a bit melodramatic , but ...... why would ANET reply in this way? They coded the patch, so they should definitively know that either they did or did not nerf loot drops. Unless they want to admit publicly that they haven't a clue how to program their own game. I doubt that is the case. More likely this is a stall while they review the results of the patch financially, comparing gem purchases,refund requests and increase or decrease in player activity across servers.

Or it could be just because bugs can be difficult to find. They checked if things work right, found out they are, but are still looking at this situation because of the amount of complaints.

It looks like a logical response, but of course the usual conspiracy theorists think everything ANet does is a money grab. I remeber the ridiculous forum rage during Halloween, when a couple of weapon skins were found only in cash shop, which is why the whole event was a cash grab according to some "gifted" individuals. Then again, I guess it's natural. We're getting lots of free updates, so the GW2 anti-hype brigade is running out of straws in their "F2P game is teh suxx" department and they've got no real complaints since they don't play the game.

  VendettaDFA

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12/23/12 11:15:28 AM#53
Originally posted by Scalpless
Originally posted by VendettaDFA

The OP is a bit melodramatic , but ...... why would ANET reply in this way? They coded the patch, so they should definitively know that either they did or did not nerf loot drops. Unless they want to admit publicly that they haven't a clue how to program their own game. I doubt that is the case. More likely this is a stall while they review the results of the patch financially, comparing gem purchases,refund requests and increase or decrease in player activity across servers.

Or it could be just because bugs can be difficult to find. They checked if things work right, found out they are, but are still looking at this situation because of the amount of complaints.

It looks like a logical response, but of course the usual conspiracy theorists think everything ANet does is a money grab. I remeber the ridiculous forum rage during Halloween, when a couple of weapon skins were found only in cash shop, which is why the whole event was a cash grab according to some "gifted" individuals. Then again, I guess it's natural. We're getting lots of free updates, so the GW2 anti-hype brigade is running out of straws in their "F2P game is teh suxx" department and they've got no real complaints since they don't play the game.

 And lots of bugs are even more difficult to correct. Conspiracy theories about conspiracy theories can sometimes dilute true data. Updates occur across the genre of sub,f2p and b2p games such as GW2. To me updates in themselves aren't the issue of the thread, the quality control aspect of the updates is. Addressing complaints as rage is somewhat melodramatic in the same regard as the OP was. There is a paper trail, or gem trail if you wish, on this conspiracy theory. Diminishing returns, a farm nerf for botters, is still there even though the botting issue is more or less resolved. No time limit on sell posts allows an overinflated price on the TP ,with no penalty to the seller beyond the initial fee, skews the proper price in relation to the current economy. The anti-farm code has impacted available income in that it takes longer to generate a set amount of gold than before the code.

It may all be conspiracy theory, but as I haven't heard of any restoration of income generation methods to pre-DR status, ANET will unfortunately reap the reputation it has sown.

Diablo 3 suffered the same symptoms with very negative results and I truly do hope ANET turns it around before they reach D3 status.

  GrayGhost79

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12/23/12 7:37:21 PM#54
Originally posted by VendettaDFA

The OP is a bit melodramatic , but ...... why would ANET reply in this way? They coded the patch, so they should definitively know that either they did or did not nerf loot drops. Unless they want to admit publicly that they haven't a clue how to program their own game. I doubt that is the case. More likely this is a stall while they review the results of the patch financially, comparing gem purchases,refund requests and increase or decrease in player activity across servers.

I got out long ago over other issues, but this is one more reason not to get back in. Very evasive response.

lol... 

Anet coded the patch, yes. Does that mean the patch is guranteed to work as intended? No. 

They clearly said that the mechanic had not been changed, they are open to the idea of a possible bug but have yet to find one durring the testing that was initiated due to the thread and other reports. 

 

You are welcome to continue with the conspiracy theory as most will likely find it as entertaining as I have, but don't try and put so much spin on it. 

 

"We’ve seen reports from players questioning the randomness of the drop mechanisms in GW2 and in particular asking if it’s been changed recently. This is not the case and we don’t think that the randomness mechanism is misbehaving, but we’re running some data to be sure there isn’t anything unexpected going on. So far nothing shows anything suspicious but we’ll keep gathering data and analyzing it. We’ve also created a thread where players can share with us their concrete data about any perceived strange drop behavior they encounter:"

See by spin, I mean you tried to make this out to be an evasive reply when in reality it's pretty straight forward and does address the concern as well as explain what they are duing to determine if an issue truly exists. 

  PaRoXiTiC

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12/24/12 3:35:59 PM#55

Two weeks ago I made 58 gold in 4 days.

There is not a damn thing wrong with the drop rate. You are just a lazy ass player.

  Mothanos

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12/24/12 3:50:58 PM#56

I have stopped playing it also for the time being.
I was hooked on WvW for 700 hours in the meantime server hopping ripped appart whole communities.
WvW became jump to the next Winning server or get left behind on a death pvp server.

Closed and Open beta made WvW look good, server pride above all, nothing remains of that with server transfers.
So you dont log in for 2 weeks and come back to find all your friends hoped on to the next server and each week its the same story.

WvW also gives me a realy arcade feeling, if you cap Stonemist today it doesnt give you that heroic feeling of capping the most prestige castle made in WvW.
The combat is stale with only a few spells ( i had hope it was more like GW1) but damn i was wrong.

Many posts on the GW2 forums get merged and lost in walls and walls of text no1 can ever read trough.
Changes are not made fast enough and many guild / people leave or go venture to other games.

What good have been a new WoW became just another mmo with nothing special for pvp players.


I had not expected this from Anet, i tought those guys where on the ball, in touch with their playerbase, listened to critic posts and acted to care to impove the game faster then other studio's.
In the end iam just disapointed.
Like i have been with all themepark mmo of the last 7 years.


I dont have any hope for Elders scroll online, if Anet disapoints like this then iam very sceptical about any other studio out there creating themepark #23425452.

OP made a good post, your guys are horrible to attacking him.
This guy speaks the truth.
But then again this is the interwebz where all the coolguys hang out.

  Zolb

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12/24/12 4:07:25 PM#57
Originally posted by Rusque

"You and your company need to realize with whom you are dealing with.

From all the posts I read here I can surely affirm that in this thread have posted people with twice your age, with family and huge responsabilities, with professional careers that would pale the careers of all your staff put together and with effective and executive power in their everyday businesses that most of you can not even dream of."

 

Bwahahahaha, you did not seriously send that to them? You have to be a teenager or a 40 year living in his mom's basement, there's no way you're a working adult - let alone high powered executive. lol

This.

 

If you have played any other MMO in the last 10 years or so for any lenght of time you would know that Anet are a pretty good company and at least talk to there player base, just just post things on their forums through moderators to try and keep the peace. (I'm looking at you SOE!)

On a personal note i dont think the drop rates are to bad, and i hardly have any +magic find items.

  ESSKA

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12/24/12 10:07:44 PM#58
More usless whine. Arena net can't win at all. Some of you are looking for Arena Net to bow down and admit to something that never happend. The bots got banned and some items on the TP went up in price. Thats usually what happens after bots get banned in game. T6 mats always had crappy drop rates.  It's not hard to make gold in GW2 at all if you are willing to put in a little bit of time. I mean hell its easier than the last mmo ive played which was Aion. And that game's entire pve system is based on RNG.
  mayito7777

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12/27/12 8:58:36 AM#59
I am with you OP, I know the pain and how it feels. I just stopped playing GW2, the lack of respect from that person speaks volumes of what the company thinks about thier base players.
  NaughtyP

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12/27/12 12:55:01 PM#60

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