Originally posted by RhinoNZ

Originally posted by syntax42

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

considering you can't steal mobs in this game...

I don't really give a shit.

You should care about them ruining the game economy.  When one "person" can farm using several stolen accounts at once, they are effectively gaining resources at a faster rate than you.  Get enough people doing this and they can take over the economy and control prices.  It happens in almost every MMO.  I have only seen a few MMOs be proactive about preventing this kind of disruptive behavoir.

Have a look on http://www.gw2spidy.com/type/5

 

Select any T2 - T3 Material ( Small Venom Sacks are a great example ) 

10th September they were 1s 19 per

21st september a MASSIVE amount was dumped into the TP ( This goes for most other mats as well on this day )

Now they are only 30c per

I have been watching the TP & whats happening is that 1000's are placed on the market, the prices drop, then they are pulled & thousands more put in again at a much lower price.

IMO this is a co-ordinated TP attack, most likely by said bots & farmers to drive down the prices. They are buying up the Mats at the lowered buy prices, will then pull all the material off the market, driving the prices back up & they then sell the materials for a profit.

Thats my theory anyway.

They will then sell the gold they earn from this to the players that buy Gold Sellers Gold.

 

Honestly I hope you're sending screenies to the CS of what you're seeing. I don't play GW2, but I've seen people looking to make real money off of in game currency kill games by f'ing with the economy, so it would be good to let the GM's or CS know if you're not already. 

I'm more worried about the economy as a whole of the game (which already seems screwed up) than bots stealing my kills.

Originally posted by spacebot

Bot's really arn't an issue. They cant steal your kills, your mat node, in fact all they can do is look stupid. The money they farm may effect the economy, but that can be good or bad depending on what your doing. And they do get banned.  

Also welcome to mmo's in 2012.

Troll harder.

And how by chance are you suppose to compete with those bots in your area,  are you saying you can tag a mob faster than a bot.  Guess again my friend,  all you can do is try to find a spot with no bots in the area.

Originally posted by spacebot

Bot's really arn't an issue. They cant steal your kills, your mat node, in fact all they can do is look stupid. The money they farm may effect the economy, but that can be good or bad depending on what your doing. And they do get banned.  

Also welcome to mmo's in 2012.

Troll harder.

Bots ruin games.  The ruin a games economy.   Seen it happen in to many games - including EVE Online for one - and anyone that defends the notion that bots are not bad for a game is probably a botter themselves.

Originally posted by spacebot

 

Troll harder...

Troll harder....

Troll harder.

 

So was your post just a knee jerk reaction to someone saying something bad about "YOUR" game or were you actually trying to troll others?

 

Even most of the hardcore rabid fanboys of Any game hate botters because of how they give rise to account hacking or rape the economy or steal kills or just generally piss people off.

 

For you to say that botters do good to the economy puts you in very bad light, you either run bot scripts yourself, hence the justification of botting that you need to make out of guilt, or (no offence) you are one the worst kind of gamers. 

Or would you start caring if some china farmer hacked your account and started botting with it? Welcome to MMOs in 2012, and when you get hacked other rabids will Always blame you for having "weak security" and malware on your PC while putting absolutely no blame of the game house, yes welcome indeed.

 

EDIT: space"bot"...? I see what you did there you cheeky fellow!

Well, if you're so sure it's a bot, then report it. Easy enough, click on the character Rightclick and report IIRC, never did it before myself.

If you can't beat them, join them.

There wouldnt be ant bots if players wouldnt buy from them ! I think they shouild have a server all to their own so anybody who wants to cheat can go there and have a blast. But dont dumb down the game for the rest of us saw 2 rangers last night teloporting all over the place from one end of the braod the other and  evem wrost was no cooldown at all .  Ive got spam with those adds too  and ya some of them are selling full hack codes !!!  Then you are know longer playing a game but ruining it for others .Its starting to really turn me off from wanting to play what was once becomming a great game to who gives a s***  that A-hole is cheating too!

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Originally posted by CujoSWAoA
considering you can't steal mobs in this game...

I don't really give a shit.

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Oh yeah, who cares about stealing the mob.

Nevermind that, you should start caring about the game's economy.

Originally posted by JoeyMMO
Well, if you're so sure it's a bot, then report it. Easy enough, click on the character Rightclick and report IIRC, never did it before myself.

Reported multiple botters t-porting around. What happened? The next day I saw some of the same names doing the same thing in the next higher tier zone. Reported them again. A week+ later now and just saw one of the names I knew, still t-porting around.

 

Everyone hates bots, I know. Me just as much as the other guy & I know it can be frustrating seeing the same guy/s in the same spots for a few weeks at a time.

But........

Think of it like this guys.

If you tell a police officer you see someone on the street selling drugs, they are more than likely just a small time dealer, part of a much larger & sinister group.

If the information you provide about Mr Small Time is acted on straight away...yes, it gets the small time dealer off the street corner, but then 2 more arrive the next day selling the same products to the same people.

Nothing is resolved & the problem continues.

They are instead put under surveillance, watched, followed & their movements/conversations & dealings are tracked.

This takes time & you dont always see all the work in behind the scenes thats going on.

 

Then all of a sudden, a little bit down the track after the police have got quality info from the unsuspecting mole the information gathered is used, they swoop down in a massive raid and shut down  the ENTIRE network all at once, including all the other dealers in the neighbourhood and the Big Boss dealer.

I always think of it like that when I report a botter or farmer.

Yes.... they may be there in the same spot for a few days > a week.... oh but they & their kind will get there dues.

I have every confidence in ArenaNet that the bot issue & the market instability will be resolved.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

considering you can't steal mobs in this game...

I don't really give a shit.

REALLY! if they don't stop their infestation the game starts to feel like crap, anyway i 'm still loving the game , but i hate gold farmers and xiting people.

that's the problem with PvE servers. whereas if FFA pvp servers existed, these bots would have been very much dead all the time.