1. You don't play WoW for the leveling experience, but for the endgame ditto.

2. You don't play GW2 for the endgame experience, but for the leveling ditto.

Apples and oranges are hard to directly compare. I know, cause I tried it once, and then I took a pill and was happy again.

WoWs quest in general with few handful of exceptions are shallow, mindnumbing and simply lackluster. Smashing 10 Basilik heads in different hues like any bot could do with ease is just one of countless examples.  Everyone knows that. Even those who enjoy and havent quit yet, though of course they would never want to admit it. We know that even when the WoW fanbois in denial rush after everyone who expresses their opinion and toughts about it.

GW2 events in general are vastly superior to you general WoW quest(chain). In design, gameplay value, longlivety, but also in polish. We know that. Everyone can see that with their bare eyes. They are visibly at least two steps ahead. We know that. Even when the WoW fanbois try to claim they are at the same level as their retarded games generic questgrind. Its obvious.

But who cares? GW2 wont become any less fun, whether anyone thinks or agrees WoWs quest are bad or denies it.  WoW is an irrelevant factor to this MMORPGs gameplay, like it is to almost any other. You think WoWs content design is cheap and shallow? Great you arent completely deluded and willfully ignroant like some other individuals.

But this is the GW2 forum. Go complain about WoW in the WoW forum.

Why bother what is wrong with another cheap game, when GW2 already offers a solution and is beyond the first steps to fix it. Arenanet already learned from the failure and by any rational means undeniably improved upon it. Why continue to bother about the failure? The learning effect is gone.

Oh look - another GW2 thread bashing WoW with one-sided arguments. 

You kids need to grow up.

Originally posted by Psychow

So you think every quest from 1 to 85 should be unique and no Kill X numbr fo y mobs?

 

Dream on kid. 

Yea I do.  a few kill tasks here and there are ok but the unoriginal quest hub (I prefer to call then task hub but thats a different debate).  Quests should be epic in nature and give you memories.  I played WoW for 6 years and I can only remember a few quests of any significance.  However in GW2 I can tell you verbatim every quest (just about) I completed in Queensdale (not counting heart "tasks").

Originally posted by The_Korrigan
 http://www.thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=163

haha epic comic and so apt.

WoW was released in 2004! In 2004! Hmm, now it is 2012. WoW was released in 2004. 2012-2004 = 8 years! Yes, WoW was released 8 years ago.

Do you know what you had to do in MMOs before WoW? You killed stuff. That was the only way to level. Kill stuff over and over and over again. You killed stuff at level 1, you killed stuff at level 100. WoW at least give you 3-4k quests to give you some background story and overall made it much more enjoyable. I am sure a lot of people here will disagree and will say that grinding for hours at ONE spot killing the SAME mobs OVER and OVER and OVER again was fun.

I am sure GW2 will make you do an epic quest at level 79.5 like picking up daisies cause killing is sooooooooooo level 1.

Originally posted by Xobdnas

and I just got a quest to kill 10 basilisks. Way to keep em hooked Blizz, way to evolve. I'm so moved and excited for this quest. I can't imagine what is next!

Good god GW2 is gonna but this lame horse down. Blizz should seriously feel shame when a player is 1 lvl away from max and full on kill 10 X quests.

Pretty sure you should be posting complaints about WoW on the WoW forums. I don't see the purpose of talking about that game in the GW2 forums.

Originally posted by galphar

Originally posted by denshing
GW2. At max level, you will be doing the same exact event quests that you did at level 5. I fail to see how this isn't more of the same.

The difference is that the events are "Dynamic". Meaning they change based on the number of people doing them and their levels.

They don't change really, they just get harder.

There are different path ways for the events but once you've done all the pathways (and there aren't many, like 2-3 per event) then people will just be as bored of dynamic events as normal quest text ones.

Questing/Dynamic stuff in GW2 isn't what people should be looking forward to, it's slightly more replayable than average quests, but after an alt or two you will have done all the pathways.

PvP is where GW2 shines, as long as people are excited for this then they will love GW2.

so the zone giving you a quest to kill to basilisks is going to be better than an npc giving you a quest to kill 10 basilisks .. how exactly?

Originally posted by Xobdnas

How is WOW an example of good quests? It should be noted that WOW couldn't even give a meaningful experience for 1 lvl of gameplay. I thought the last lvl might have something special, something unique, I guess asking WOW to do either of those things for just one lvl is asking too much. It has to be mindless kill X for X otherwise they might ask too much of their player base and lose a single sub.

Either you're lying or just straight up trolling. I hit 85 a week ago and there were some OUTSTANDING quests on the way. They're not all homeruns.... And guess what, they won't be in Gw2 either. Saying that there's nothing special or unique ever is an embarrassing fabrication. Look, I move on to other games also, it doesn't  mean you have to lie and trash wow. Just play gw2 on the 25th, (Ill be there as well...lol) and be happy... Not hatefull.

Originally posted by azmundai

so the zone giving you a quest to kill to basilisks is going to be better than an npc giving you a quest to kill 10 basilisks .. how exactly?

the videos in my sig they explain why in good detail

this one is a good start MMOHut DE Walkthrough then this is decent Hearts, Dynamic Events & Their Positive Impact on Leveling

I'm calling bullshit on this while post...lol. After reading this guys previous post, it OBVIOUS he doesn't play WoW... It is also obvious he hates WoW and blizzard. That would make this post pure and untamed trolling at its finest. 

He even says: "Poor WOW players, they aren't just sad enough to pay 15 a month for hot garbage, but they overpay for the pac too."

Doesn't sound like somene about to hit 85.... Sounds like someone bored and waiting for Gw2 flaming to me...

Originally posted by Xobdnas

and I just got a quest to kill 10 basilisks. Way to keep em hooked Blizz, way to evolve. I'm so moved and excited for this quest. I can't imagine what is next!

Good god GW2 is gonna but this lame horse down. Blizz should seriously feel shame when a player is 1 lvl away from max and full on kill 10 X quests.

and you didn't notice that there is no fixed way to reach max lvl?

you can do instances, bgs, quests on all continents, craft, complete events that happen in the meantime...

and you thought they'd give you a special "you will reach max lvl soon!" quest? why exactly?

there ARE story quests, alot.

maybe you should have chosen one of those to hit max ^^

Originally posted by Xobdnas

and I just got a quest to kill 10 basilisks. Way to keep em hooked Blizz, way to evolve. I'm so moved and excited for this quest. I can't imagine what is next!

Good god GW2 is gonna but this lame horse down. Blizz should seriously feel shame when a player is 1 lvl away from max and full on kill 10 X quests.

Is this satiric post? If it is, way to make fun out of GW2 

Originally posted by Praetalus

I'm calling bullshit on this while post...lol. After reading this guys previous post, it OBVIOUS he doesn't play WoW... It is also obvious he hates WoW and blizzard. That would make this post pure and untamed trolling at its finest. 

He even says: "Poor WOW players, they aren't just sad enough to pay 15 a month for hot garbage, but they overpay for the pac too."

 

Doesn't sound like somene about to hit 85.... Sounds like someone bored and waiting for Gw2 flaming to me...

Except he also isn't someone waiting for GW2 either necessarily I don't think, as you can see if you look at some of his other posts or even just read his profile.  Although he tends to be more favorable towards GW2, he mostly just seems unhappy with the genre as a whole right now.

He's just stirring the pot, trying to pit one community against another.

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Originally posted by Aerowyn

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Originally posted by azmundai so the zone giving you a quest to kill to basilisks is going to be better than an npc giving you a quest to kill 10 basilisks .. how exactly?

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the videos in my sig they explain why in good detail

this one is a good start MMOHut DE Walkthrough then this is decent Hearts, Dynamic Events & Their Positive Impact on Leveling

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yea that's super awesome .. guy didn't even take a single point of damage fighting the super awesome dynamic bear event.

as i've said plenty of times, it is a step in the right directions, but posts like the OP here are just delusional.

Originally posted by Jagarid

I don't know about anyone else, but actually watching the story behind the event play out around me rather than just reading it when I click a ! or ? makes a HUGE difference for me.

When a child ran up to my character and cried for me to come help, I didn't even stop to wonder what they needed help with (or what my reward would be for helping)...I followed that kid to help.    

Every event is like this, in some way or another, where the stuff is "just happening" and you decide what you ought to do based on what you see and hear.    That alone is a major difference from "kill X of creature Y" quests, as far as I am concerned...even if what I end up actually doing is killing X of creature Y.

Yep, its all about presentation.  No desire to get GW2, but that is what I saw in the dynamic events.  The presentation is more enjoyable and that then leads to the notion that your doing something more important than go kill X of Y even though that is the reality of the quest.  Thats the same notion of TOR and TSW with the storyline, although its more of the same does that get you hooked or not.

Originally posted by azmundai

 

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Originally posted by Aerowyn

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Originally posted by azmundai so the zone giving you a quest to kill to basilisks is going to be better than an npc giving you a quest to kill 10 basilisks .. how exactly?

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the videos in my sig they explain why in good detail

 

this one is a good start MMOHut DE Walkthrough then this is decent Hearts, Dynamic Events & Their Positive Impact on Leveling

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yea that's super awesome .. guy didn't even take a single point of damage fighting the super awesome dynamic bear event.

as i've said plenty of times, it is a step in the right directions, but posts like the OP here are just delusional.

that was a easier event you can see plenty with more of a challenge but that's another discussion .. the whole point was you asked how they differ and those two videos give you examples