Originally posted by Elandir90

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Elandir90

why use a G13 instead of a keyboard ?

 

i have a G110 and i fail to see why would anyone want a G13, i can see the use for a mouse with more buttons though.

 

You can have software help with your keyboard, if not the standard software you can download some macro maker for keyboards, works just the same. 

 

Buying a new hardware just for a thumbstick ? 

 

Thats all real, i'm not trolling or anything, I ask you, Why use it  and why its better than your overall keyboard ?

for me i dont use the thumbstick for movement but just the placement of my palm and how my fingers rest on the keys is a million times more comfortable than a regular keyboard for long gaming sesions. Being able to setup profiles for differen't games is just a bonus for me. Thumbstick works great for activiating skills though:)

So it comes down to comfort and the thumbstick. The profiles and other software based features you can have with any other keyboard pretty much. 

 

Comfort wise you can always have a good wrist rest, i guess it does the same. 

 

The only real "advantage" i can see is the thumbstick.

pretty much.. i wouldn't say its a "must-have" but i enjoy mine:)

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Elandir90

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Elandir90

why use a G13 instead of a keyboard ?

 

i have a G110 and i fail to see why would anyone want a G13, i can see the use for a mouse with more buttons though.

 

You can have software help with your keyboard, if not the standard software you can download some macro maker for keyboards, works just the same. 

 

Buying a new hardware just for a thumbstick ? 

 

Thats all real, i'm not trolling or anything, I ask you, Why use it  and why its better than your overall keyboard ?

for me i dont use the thumbstick for movement but just the placement of my palm and how my fingers rest on the keys is a million times more comfortable than a regular keyboard for long gaming sesions. Being able to setup profiles for differen't games is just a bonus for me. Thumbstick works great for activiating skills though:)

So it comes down to comfort and the thumbstick. The profiles and other software based features you can have with any other keyboard pretty much. 

 

Comfort wise you can always have a good wrist rest, i guess it does the same. 

 

The only real "advantage" i can see is the thumbstick.

pretty much.. i wouldn't say its a "must-have" but i enjoy mine:)

it seems a good piece of hardware for sure and logitech always does great stuff.

But i thought there were more to it... some "advantage" for the player as a mouse with loads of buttons does. 

Originally posted by Elandir90

it seems a good piece of hardware for sure and logitech always does great stuff.

 

But i thought there were more to it... some "advantage" for the player as a mouse with loads of buttons does. 

When I got my G13 I was trying to decide between that and a very good anti-ghosting keyboard. I also am a programmer and want an ergonomic keyboard. There really are no ergonomic gaming keyboards. Also for gaming I wouldn't be using the whole keyboard most of the time, just where my left hand is since my right hand will be on the mouse, and for comfort I didn't want my left hand straight on to my desk. So if I went keyboard, I would have to turn the whole keyboard to the side, where it would be half hanging off my desk.

So I pondered the stealth series keyboard that has the extra gaming keypad to the side that is angled for comfort. Then I realized that the G13 would allow me to place it anywhere for comfort, I could still have my ergo keyboard for when I am heavy coding, and I could have the thumbstick for movement. The best of all worlds for my personal use. I just was worried about comfort and if the thumbstick was practical for movement.

So anyway, that is why I went G13 instead of a full keyboard. for gaming.

Originally posted by Elandir90

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Elandir90

Originally posted by Aerowyn

Originally posted by Elandir90

why use a G13 instead of a keyboard ?

 

i have a G110 and i fail to see why would anyone want a G13, i can see the use for a mouse with more buttons though.

 

You can have software help with your keyboard, if not the standard software you can download some macro maker for keyboards, works just the same. 

 

Buying a new hardware just for a thumbstick ? 

 

Thats all real, i'm not trolling or anything, I ask you, Why use it  and why its better than your overall keyboard ?

for me i dont use the thumbstick for movement but just the placement of my palm and how my fingers rest on the keys is a million times more comfortable than a regular keyboard for long gaming sesions. Being able to setup profiles for differen't games is just a bonus for me. Thumbstick works great for activiating skills though:)

So it comes down to comfort and the thumbstick. The profiles and other software based features you can have with any other keyboard pretty much. 

 

Comfort wise you can always have a good wrist rest, i guess it does the same. 

 

The only real "advantage" i can see is the thumbstick.

pretty much.. i wouldn't say its a "must-have" but i enjoy mine:)

it seems a good piece of hardware for sure and logitech always does great stuff.

 

But i thought there were more to it... some "advantage" for the player as a mouse with loads of buttons does. 

The mouse and comfort are awesome but where it really shines is the two buttons next to the joystick. Those can be used more readily than the shift/ctr/alt on a keyboard. Having the that quick access means the keys that you rest your hands on are now 2-3 times more flexible. ie the 3 key is now an alt 3 or ctrl 3 depending on how you want to use it.

Keybinds can be setup with the software that it comes with for individual games. I don't have to change my EQ3 layout, the software will recognize I'm playing Rift now and change it automitically. These saves or profiles can be shared with others on the internet and it makes it really nice.

The joystick can be used for key functions as well, you don't have to use it to move. I have it setup for example; moving it West is M for map, East for Journal, North for bags...etc.

On top of all that you can setup macros. ie. GW2 douple tap for dodge can be made into a macro with one push and you dodge.

The hardware is very flexible and the keys can be setup anyway you want using the software! You don't have to mess with the ingame keymapping just set the keys in the software to match the game.

Originally posted by Amjoco

The mouse and comfort are awesome but where it really shines is the two buttons next to the joystick. Those can be used more readily than the shift/ctr/alt on a keyboard. Having the that quick access means the keys that you rest your hands on are now 2-3 times more flexible. ie the 3 key is now an alt 3 or ctrl 3 depending on how you want to use it.

Keybinds can be setup with the software that it comes with for individual games. I don't have to change my EQ3 layout, the software will recognize I'm playing Rift now and change it automitically. These saves or profiles can be shared with others on the internet and it makes it really nice.

The joystick can be used for key functions as well, you don't have to use it to move. I have it setup for example; moving it West is M for map, East for Journal, North for bags...etc.

On top of all that you can setup macros. ie. GW2 douple tap for dodge can be made into a macro with one push and you dodge.

The hardware is very flexible and the keys can be setup anyway you want using the software! You don't have to mess with the ingame keymapping just set the keys in the software to match the game.

Just a quick note that is almost off topic:

It works better if you assign dodge to a keypress, then map that to your g13. otherwise you would either a) always dodge one specific direction or b) have to macro 4 double taps. Mapping a key rocks, it will dodge you whatever direction you are moving (and backwards if you are not moving)

Originally posted by JesseBFox

Originally posted by Amjoco

The mouse and comfort are awesome but where it really shines is the two buttons next to the joystick. Those can be used more readily than the shift/ctr/alt on a keyboard. Having the that quick access means the keys that you rest your hands on are now 2-3 times more flexible. ie the 3 key is now an alt 3 or ctrl 3 depending on how you want to use it.

Keybinds can be setup with the software that it comes with for individual games. I don't have to change my EQ3 layout, the software will recognize I'm playing Rift now and change it automitically. These saves or profiles can be shared with others on the internet and it makes it really nice.

The joystick can be used for key functions as well, you don't have to use it to move. I have it setup for example; moving it West is M for map, East for Journal, North for bags...etc.

On top of all that you can setup macros. ie. GW2 douple tap for dodge can be made into a macro with one push and you dodge.

The hardware is very flexible and the keys can be setup anyway you want using the software! You don't have to mess with the ingame keymapping just set the keys in the software to match the game.

Just a quick note that is almost off topic:

It works better if you assign dodge to a keypress, then map that to your g13. otherwise you would either a) always dodge one specific direction or b) have to macro 4 double taps. Mapping a key rocks, it will dodge you whatever direction you are moving (and backwards if you are not moving)

Thanx! That is a good idea. I was kinda shooting from the hip I guess with my macro suggestion! :O

Originally posted by JesseBFox

Just a quick note that is almost off topic:

It works better if you assign dodge to a keypress, then map that to your g13. otherwise you would either a) always dodge one specific direction or b) have to macro 4 double taps. Mapping a key rocks, it will dodge you whatever direction you are moving (and backwards if you are not moving)

Totally, this is also where the G13 / Naga marriage works incredibly well. 

Dodge key on the mouse pad under the right thumb + 

Direction under the left thumb with G13 

=

Impossible to beat reaction time.

And you still have 4 free fingers on your left + 2 other ones on your right while operating. Could be useful for mouselooking while inputting the dodge, all while triggering a tab targetting or off-GCD cooldown.

Originally posted by k-damage

Originally posted by JesseBFox

Just a quick note that is almost off topic:

It works better if you assign dodge to a keypress, then map that to your g13. otherwise you would either a) always dodge one specific direction or b) have to macro 4 double taps. Mapping a key rocks, it will dodge you whatever direction you are moving (and backwards if you are not moving)

Totally, this is also where the G13 / Naga marriage works incredibly well. 

Dodge key on the mouse pad under the right thumb + 

Direction under the left thumb with G13 

=

Impossible to beat reaction time.

And you still have 4 free fingers on your left + 2 other ones on your right while operating. Could be useful for mouselooking while inputting the dodge, all while triggering a tab targetting or off-GCD cooldown.

That is exactly what I use! G13 and Naga are a very good marriage.

sorry to bump this topic but now i found another gadget that with mod i think will feel better on my hand.

razer nostromo/ belkin N52te with analog stick mod: http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=7745.0

if i do the stick mod it will work like the logitech G13? anyone have try this mode?

Originally posted by p_c_sousa

sorry to bump this topic but now i found another gadget that with mod i think will feel better on my hand.

razer nostromo/ belkin N52te with analog stick mod: http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=7745.0

if i do the stick mod it will work like the logitech G13? anyone have try this mode?

I wanna see it in action! If it doesn't work on my computer games it looks like it will work in a hospital emergency room as some type of reuscitation device. :)

I really like the thumb stick and use it. I also like the screen for Vent, TS3, and stats on some games. I bought mine partly because I play on a laptop and dragging my gaming keyboard around with me is not quite as practical. It allows me to distance myself a bit from the laptop. The Xbox controller is tempting but I think I will stay with the G-13.

guys that belkin show on link is full of mods i just want to do the stick mod (if i buy the gadget), but as i say i need to have sure that will work like Logitech G13 stick because i want the stick for movement so i can have 4 fingers free to hit skills xD

Newegg has the G13 on sale for $63.99 down from $79.99(same price as the Logitech site) and it is a free shipping item as well.If you play Blacklight Retribution you also get some card for in game items too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126050&Tpk=g13%20logitech

Originally posted by Asheram

Newegg has the G13 on sale for $63.99 down from $79.99(same price as the Logitech site) and it is a free shipping item as well.If you play Blacklight Retribution you also get some card for in game items too.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823126050&Tpk=g13%20logitech

im from Portugal, doubt will be free ship to here  xD

I love my G13. At this point, I can't play any games without it. I didn't like the Nostromo, I can't remember why now as it's been so long, but I remember checking them both out and loving this darn thing.

I'd definitely get it again in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by Elandir90

why use a G13 instead of a keyboard ?

i have a G110 and i fail to see why would anyone want a G13, i can see the use for a mouse with more buttons though.

You can have software help with your keyboard, if not the standard software you can download some macro maker for keyboards, works just the same. 

Buying a new hardware just for a thumbstick ? 

Thats all real, i'm not trolling or anything, I ask you, Why use it  and why its better than your overall keyboard ?

If you're a seriously competitive gamer and have the money, I think the thumb stick alone would warrant the purchase.  To be able to consolidate 4 keys that require 3 fingers into 1 key that requires only 1 finger can be invaluable.  Not to mention the finger you'd use is your left thumb, which is essentially never used otherwise.  It's an advantage that simply cannot be gained through any other methods.  

it will be the logitech G13 xD

anyopne know where i can find a great price with cheap ship cost to Portugal? or a place i can find people sell this used and ship to Portugal? (on ebay im get no lucky ...)

I tried the G13 during stress test and used the stick for movement (forward/back, strafe left/right). I have a mouse with two thumb buttons, those I used as dodge and jump buttons.

Worked ok, but I am not 100 % happy with it. The problem I have is mostly with the form of the stick head. Forward,left, back are no problem. But because my thumb isn't positioned flat on stick head but at about 45 degrees, (don't know, maybe my hand is different ;) ) it didn't feel very comfortable to go to the right.

Is it possible to use/get another stick ? So far I couldn't find any. I think perfect would be a stick head formed lick a U.

Originally posted by Anthur

I tried the G13 during stress test and used the stick for movement (forward/back, strafe left/right). I have a mouse with two thumb buttons, those I used as dodge and jump buttons.

Worked ok, but I am not 100 % happy with it. The problem I have is mostly with the form of the stick head. Forward,left, back are no problem. But because my thumb isn't positioned flat on stick head but at about 45 degrees, (don't know, maybe my hand is different ;) ) it didn't feel very comfortable to go to the right.

Is it possible to use/get another stick ? So far I couldn't find any. I think perfect would be a stick head formed lick a U.

yes you can do the stick mod. http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?topic=1926.0

the xbox360 seem the best stick. you can buy one on ebay for +-1€.