Originally posted by cinos

Originally posted by HorrorScope

I'm like the OP with my love for GW1 and decent surprise on how different GW2 is, it almost like they didn't like anything about GW1 other then teleporting. I personally loved the large, story based, unique PvE instances og GW1, not that GW2 wont be cool being more open world and dynamic, but I was shocked to see you are in the 20's before you run the first instanced dungeon. Not sure why you cannot have both very early on. But ok...

So I was in the last beta, I didn't pre-purchase over one reason, performance. I couldn't ultimately tell how well this game will be for me because of it. I'll keep an ear out and when everyone starts saying "The game is running great now" then I'll dive in. No reason for me to deal with what they are offering now.

But why I write, I'm almost wondering if they are cleaver like a devil. We can see we cannot choose they highest settings as they are not in the client on the GFX end yet. It isn't using multicore power, it's barely utilizing the GPU. It's as if they are simply testing some internal things they need to test and not giving us the full monty here, perhaps saving that for the release. I haven't seen that done yet, but this is the GW1 engine, how can it not support a CPU and GPU correctly since GW 1 does and this being 2012? It boggles me, so I think perhaps they don't want to give away the farm in beta and leave us awed a bit on release. That would take supreme confidence. But if they  presold enough, they do have some house money to play with.

 

 

 

 

It's been listed as a known issue on the testing forums that this game is currently very CPU heavy with little load going to the GPU. I didn't fully understand your last paragraph but there isn't a conspiracy (I think that's what you were getting at), just a need for optimisation. :)

 

Well I wasn't thinking conspiracy, more like planned. The point is this is the GW1 Engine modified and 2012. Who today makes a game that doesn't heavily rely on the CPU cores and the GPU? It's as if they are purposefully holding the game back. Perhaps if it was a brand new enging in beta, ok. But GW1 engine that ran damn near perfect day one beta way back when with cpu and gpu? This is fishy.

This game was never going to live up to the hype surrounding it. Truth is many members on here and elsewhere are hyping it up to be better than the second coming of Jesus... while I haven't played it, from people's opinions on here, I'd login and expect to be blown away in the same way WoW did initially.  I haven't played the game yet and refuse to pre-purchase something without a defined release date however I'm not actually naive enough to think for a second it's going to live up to the ridiculous level of hype surrounding it. 

I'm just gonna say this quick since I'll be back in game soon. To those say the combat is like WoW: Yeah, at first glance, it does feel really like WoW, but if you actually pay attention you'll notice that the attack animations have to actually connect to the enemy model(or hitboxes, to be exact) to do damage, instead of completely relying on RNG, like WoW. K, I'll be back in game, soon the game's everything I've expected. 60$ is an awesome bargain.

Originally posted by Senden
This game was never going to live up to the hype surrounding it. Truth is many members on here and elsewhere are hyping it up to be better than the second coming of Jesus... while I haven't played it, from people's opinions on here, I'd login and expect to be blown away in the same way WoW did initially.  I haven't played the game yet and refuse to pre-purchase something without a defined release date however I'm not actually naive enough to think for a second it's going to live up to the ridiculous level of hype surrounding it. 

I have to disagree. I still belive the hype of Tebow is indeed greater.

Originally posted by Mannish
An honest review of the game. Cant believe how these people are saying this game is good when it does nonthing new or better then any other game out there.

Well what was you expecting? They made some good steps in the right direction for MMOs, and all we hear is it isn't some magical revolutinary experience. Please. People dissapointed themselves by hyping it up to be something that its not. If you didn't enjoy the game do everyone a favor GTFO. Thanks :)

Originally posted by Aroich1

I'll start by saying that I love Guild Wars. I'm a big fan, if not the biggest.

 

After playing Guild Wars 2 this morning, i've come away from the game with dissapointment. This isn't revolutionary.

This is City of Heroes with a Guild Wars skin and some minor upgrades.

 

Cartoonish graphics that don't match the quality of Guild Wars. Awful interface. Instant crappy mob respawns. No actual effect from killing mobs other than a random event every so often. The animations look as though they allowed the work experince lad to make them.

 

The thing that annoys me the most is that when you watch the videos of the classes. They look amazing.

When you play them, they look nothing like the videos. Its a blatant lie and borders on false advertisement.

 

But hey.. at least we only need to pay once for City Of Guild Wars. So it's not all bad.

Did you ever leave the starting area or did you just run immediately to the forums to say hooooow dissappointed you are about the closed beta of a unreleased product?

I was in city of heroes since its first closed beta and gw2 is definately not like it.

The starting areas are having repeateable events so all "newbies" can do them, it was said for years now left and right.

The graphics are great and match the graphics of GW1 in style so  you are contradicting yourself when you say you are "the biggest fan of gw1", yet you are saying the graphics are "cartoonish" in gw2.

Did you even bothered to check your options and adjust the graphics quality?

It goes very high you know? The art style was shown to us the whole time aswell and it is exactly as it was shown to us so if you had informed yourself by watching gameplay videos of players (not only the skill videos from ANet you obviously watched), you would had known how the gameplay is already.

If you didn't liked the game because it's not easy at some parts and dodge can't be spammed (I know I ended up dead several times already), then say so.

Blaming the game instead is a bad move on your part.

Originally posted by Mannish

Originally posted by just1opinion

Originally posted by Mannish
An honest review of the game. Cant believe how these people are saying this game is good when it does nonthing new or better then any other game out there.

 

And you know this how?  I thought you weren't buying this game? 

 

Oh, and....I disagree with you.  I have found the BWE to be a very refreshing experience and to closely reflect everything I had been seeing in YouTube videos from beta testers.  It feels very different from the "usual" MMO of today.  There are some little bugs that need to be worked out and the lag was, at times, ferocious.  Other than that....I've no complaints and am very happy with my pre-purchase.  I can't wait for the actual release.

 

 

Sorry but excuses like that are not flying anymore. It is beta and finally people are freely talking about the game and its not hard to watch live streams that are going on many sites. I watched a live stream for 2 hours last night on this site and we were asking questions and getting feedback. Just give it up already. Game is garbage and you know it.

 

Wow, when you're wrong you really go for the furthest EXTENT of wrong, don't you?  roflmao

 

It's you who should give up.  You're really transparent in these "comments" of yours.  Think whatever you like.  I have no investment in your emotional outbursts. lol

 

Hmm, I still don't see anything wrong with the actual game.  What I DO see, are people that were waiting to say I told you so, saying I told you so, even though the response has been positive (aside from login issues).  Let's face it, they would be saying it was a bad game even if it were getting good press from the media............ oh wait, it is.

Haters should reevaluate their priorities and start to have some fun, or they'll just be waiting for the next MMO to tear down, and that's a sad state of affairs.  

Originally posted by Aroich1

I'll start by saying that I love Guild Wars. I'm a big fan, if not the biggest.

 

After playing Guild Wars 2 this morning, i've come away from the game with dissapointment. This isn't revolutionary.

This is City of Heroes with a Guild Wars skin and some minor upgrades.

 

Cartoonish graphics that don't match the quality of Guild Wars. Awful interface. Instant crappy mob respawns. No actual effect from killing mobs other than a random event every so often. The animations look as though they allowed the work experince lad to make them.

 

The thing that annoys me the most is that when you watch the videos of the classes. They look amazing.

When you play them, they look nothing like the videos. Its a blatant lie and borders on false advertisement.

 

But hey.. at least we only need to pay once for City Of Guild Wars. So it's not all bad.

Sorry you were disappointed.  Guess I wont see you at launch.  What exactly were you expecting?  And what would you consider better?  Considering this was the first 'open' beta.

Originally posted by Eir_S

Hmm, I still don't see anything wrong with the actual game.  What I DO see, are people that were waiting to say I told you so, saying I told you so, even though the response has been positive (aside from login issues).  Let's face it, they would be saying it was a bad game even if it were getting good press from the media............ oh wait, it is.

Haters should reevaluate their priorities and start to have some fun, or they'll just be waiting for the next MMO to tear down, and that's a sad state of affairs.  

Swtor also got good press reviews look how that turned out *rollseyes*

 

I am happy that you guys like it but there are people who don't and people are just gonna have to accept that I mean everyone is entitled to there opinion.

I just don't get why people feel the need to defend the game people that wanna play it will and people that don't wont simple as that.

The truth is, all the hate is because they are lost!

They dont know what to do, they are so used to having thier hand held, and being led down a path, and so they are pissed, thinking the game is lacking direction, when really its them.

It kinda reminded me of EVE when I first played, I was like..... "what do I do now?!"

Ive been seeing it all day today and yesterday, people standing around in game asking, wheres the quests....LOL!

These kinds of players are looking for that CLEAR path to pwnage, they want to know exactly what the best gear is, how to get it, so they have some direction.

All I can say to those players is........   GOODBYE !!

Originally posted by Eir_S

Hmm, I still don't see anything wrong with the actual game.  What I DO see, are people that were waiting to say I told you so, saying I told you so, even though the response has been positive (aside from login issues).  Let's face it, they would be saying it was a bad game even if it were getting good press from the media............ oh wait, it is.

Haters should reevaluate their priorities and start to have some fun, or they'll just be waiting for the next MMO to tear down, and that's a sad state of affairs.  

It's hard to tell from my keyboard perspective what each persons motives are, so I ignore that. Does what they say hold water or not? If it does to a reasonable extent, then they have credit if their view is positive or negative, whatever.

For me I'm more then ok with praising and bashing, no silly game is above that and perhaps the genre should get it's fair share of lumps, many keep making the same game.

A lot of spin control going on these days.  I guess when you spend so much time on other forums trumping this game up to be the messiah, while talking down about every other game on the market, you need to convince yourself that you haven't been doing it all in vain.  

My favrorite part of this is the "just a beta" excuse.  Sorry, but I don't recall any recent games failing a stress test this miserably, particularly for a game that's been beta tested for quite a while now already.  Stress tests shouldn't be this bad.  So far, this game is making SWTOR and its shitty hero engine look like  well-oiled machine in terms of optimization, since they didn't have anywhere near the issues that GW2 has had.

 

Originally posted by Adalwulff

The truth is, all the hate is because they are lost!

They dont know what to do, they are so used to having thier hand held, and being led down a path, and so they are pissed, thinking the game is lacking direction, when really its them.

It kinda reminded me of EVE when I first played, I was like..... "what do I do now?!"

Ive been seeing it all day today and yesterday, people standing around in game asking, wheres the quests....LOL!

These kinds of players are looking for that CLEAR path to pwnage, they want to know exactly what the best gear is, how to get it, so they have some direction.

All I can say to those players is........   GOODBYE !!

This is not fair and it's untrue you really have no clue what your talking about....

I don't like the game and it's not for any of the reasons you have stated....

 

You do remember what making assumptions turns you into right?

Adal - TBH this game may be the most casual friendly game of all time and to call it hardcore and to hard for people is laughable.

1. Instant travel to anywhere from min map check

2. No real raids check

3. No real gear check

4 no dungeon until 20?

Look I played the game and wont buy it purely because it does nothing new.

Originally posted by RebelScum99

A lot of spin control going on these days.  I guess when you spend so much time on other forums trumping this game up to be the messiah, while talking down about every other game on the market, you need to convince yourself that you haven't been doing it all in vain.  

My favrorite part of this is the "just a beta" excuse.  Sorry, but I don't recall any recent games failing a stress test this miserably, particularly for a game that's been beta tested for quite a while now already.  Stress tests shouldn't be this bad.  So far, this game is making SWTOR and its shitty hero engine look like  well-oiled machine in terms of optimization, since they didn't have anywhere near the issues that GW2 has had.

 

 

Actually, WoW had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM AT LAUNCH.

There were thousands of people who could not connect, I was one of them, it was some network issue. Much like what we are seeing with GW2.

I was one of those people at WoW launch, and I kept crashing and getting network errors. I couldnt play the game for a month, waiting for them to fix it.

So basically, you are completly wrong, and inexperienced when it comes to MMOs.

Originally posted by Miotoss03

Adal - TBH this game may be the most casual friendly game of all time and to call it hardcore and to hard for people is laughable.

1. Instant travel to anywhere from min map check

2. No real raids check

3. No real gear check

4 no dungeon until 20?

Look I played the game and wont buy it purely because it does nothing new.

 

See what I mean, look at the BS you guys are spewing. I NEVER said it was hardcore. I said it was NOT linear.

Many players want GW2 for the very reasons you stated, we dont want raids, we dont want gear grinds.

Go back to WoW, we wont miss you.

I pre-purchased the game and im glad i did, but the game does take so time getting used to it really doesn't play like other mmo's.  the atmosphere in the world is very immersive and the fast paced combat takes alot to get the hang of, but it really lets skilled players excell, you cant just mash the buttons and hope for success, you really have to use all that your class has to be successful in pvp. pve is fun, an npc will come up to you and say they need help and then you'll find your self in the middle of one of many dynamic events. you can actually do quests just be listening to npc talk, i heard two npc talkiing about some guy they were after, one said he escaped down the sewers to the other, so i went down the sewer and there he was. felt a bit like skyrim listening to gossip.

Originally posted by Miotoss03

Adal - TBH this game may be the most casual friendly game of all time and to call it hardcore and to hard for people is laughable.

1. Instant travel to anywhere from min map check

2. No real raids check

3. No real gear check

4 no dungeon until 20?

Look I played the game and wont buy it purely because it does nothing new.

you say its nothing new but complain that it doesn't have raids and other standard mmo features  seems like thats something new to me.

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by RebelScum99

A lot of spin control going on these days.  I guess when you spend so much time on other forums trumping this game up to be the messiah, while talking down about every other game on the market, you need to convince yourself that you haven't been doing it all in vain.  

My favrorite part of this is the "just a beta" excuse.  Sorry, but I don't recall any recent games failing a stress test this miserably, particularly for a game that's been beta tested for quite a while now already.  Stress tests shouldn't be this bad.  So far, this game is making SWTOR and its shitty hero engine look like  well-oiled machine in terms of optimization, since they didn't have anywhere near the issues that GW2 has had.

 

 

Actually, WoW had the EXACT SAME PROBLEM AT LAUNCH.

There were thousands of people who could not connect, I was one of them, it was some network issue. Much like what we are seeing with GW2.

I was one of those people at WoW launch, and I kept crashing and getting network errors. I couldnt play the game for a month, waiting for them to fix it.

So basically, you are completly wrong, and inexperienced when it comes to MMOs.

Re-read my post.  I said RECENT games.  You're comparing this to a game that was released in 2004.  That should tell you something.