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ColdSun  1/25/04 6:44:35 PM

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War does not decide who is right, only who is left.

Good point, Yamota. 

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Djin  1/25/04 6:47:17 PM

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"Shall we play a game?"

It's a valid point, but not one of the best.  I believe there should be an option to PvP but have it all on a certain server... what if I wanted to PvE and then PvP later but couldn't because my server is all about carebearing...  that's no fun.

 


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Rad_Roofer  1/25/04 7:06:51 PM

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Well...I'm gonna go against that.  For those who absolulutely don't want any PvP...go elsewhere!  Find a different game.  That is what I say.

Open PvP is the only way to play.  Of course, restrictions and penalties are necessary.

I want to use DAOC as an example.  I'm not sure what everyone else's experiences were like, but on the PvP server, people were just killing each other non-stop.  Over and over and over again.  There seemed to be no point to it.  They died, so what.  They just respawn.  That to me is NOT a good PvP game!!!!!!!!!  I know, they were killing each other to gain those beloved kill points.  DUMB!!!

Now, we get to the concept of this game.  You kill another person because they are of opposition to you.  Of course there are those few who PK for fun.  But those are to be expected, and it wouldn't be the same if they weren't there!

IMO, having seperate servers doesn't seperate those who are into PvP, it pretty much seperates those who want to play a FPS and those who want to play a RPG!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

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Djin  1/25/04 7:11:51 PM

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"Shall we play a game?"

One of the things I hate about open PvP is this... I'll use Shadowbane for a great example...

I'm out with a group of people... and next thing there's these super high uber level people and they just come, kill our kills and then kill us in a few shots... what's the point of that?  Every time you go out and try to hunt, you would get killed unless you where bigger and badder then them...

SB was and still is very broken.  Now UO!  That was an all out PvP gore fest and it worked very well too! :)


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Yamota  1/26/04 5:34:14 PM

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Open PvP opens possibilites that other PvM servers with PvP can never do. It lets the players, not artifical rules, decide the politics of the server. Who gets to level where and when is decided by whatever guild/alliance is currently controlling the area. It gives more sense and purpose that other light PvP servers will never have because the rules prohibit the players to totally control a server.

It has nothing to do with FPS and has alot more to do with players controlling the world the occupy, not the developers and NPC guards/shopkeepers.

It's not for everyone because it creates alot of griefing and thats why seperate servers are needed. ANd Djinn if you both want to PvP and PvM without being bothered then there is something called: You cant both have the cake and eat it.

Sure you can implement PvP into a PvM server but it will always be halfassed and with little realy purpose.

ColdSun  1/26/04 7:04:24 PM

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War does not decide who is right, only who is left.

So I pay my monthly fee to play the game and some OTHER player gets to decide if I can level?  I don't think so.  Until you pay my monthly fee you aren't going to control my own game experience.

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Yamota  1/27/04 4:30:16 PM

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Thats why we need seperate servers. Your most important game experience seem to be PvM, mine is PvP.

Andro  1/27/04 4:44:08 PM

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Have you ACTUALLY tried PvP before? play UO or SWG or AC2? if not then how do you know you wont like it? Step out of carebear land and into the real world. PvP stylie.

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Andro  1/27/04 4:49:35 PM

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Serpents will come from Darktide and kill all. All PvP.... all the time.

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ColdSun  1/27/04 4:51:28 PM

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War does not decide who is right, only who is left.

Yeah I played PVP before.  Tried it in DAOC - what a chaotic and stupid mode of play.  UO was decent I had no issues with it.  If I want to kill folks I'll play Call of Duty, Quake, Tribes, etc.  I don't think you would call me a carebear after I fragged you a few times.

I have no issues with PVP as long as there are restrictions for griefers.  I won't pay my monthly fee to have some little kid with more time to play (and no more skill than I) dictate how my gaming experience will be.

Seperate servers would be fine by me.  I'll tell you what though, I'll be happy to try out PVP and see if I like it.  If its anything as stupid as DAOC was (soandso was killed by... soandso was killed by over and over again with no ryme nor reason) I doubt I'll like it.  I need a purpose other than wanton killing.  There are better games for that.

EDIT:  I enjoy realm vs realm combat in DAOC though.  Played that game from release until about 2 months ago.

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|MaguS|  1/27/04 4:57:28 PM

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You gotta understand one thing though about PvP in Lineage 2. If you are attacked without warning and want to make that person suffer... let him kill you. He wont be allowed to enter ANY town and anyone will be able to attack him freely without fear of penalty.

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ColdSun  1/27/04 5:05:11 PM

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War does not decide who is right, only who is left.

I'm ok with that.  It allows people who want to take part in that type of playstyle to fight eachother and it penalizes those who prey on people who don't want to do it.  As always there are ways around everything.  I can live with that.

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Rad_Roofer  1/27/04 9:13:57 PM

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I didn't care for DAOC's PvP system either!

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RaptorStorm  1/28/04 5:43:17 PM