Originally posted by JonMichael

 

Originally posted by openedge1

Every time we played, he watched TV or movies or would be cruising websites and even one time fell asleep while playing..

As he said..I only need to press several buttons to win..

What does that say for the game?...Ouch!

 

Sounds like your friend has a severe case of ADD. ;)

 

 

Yeah, I agree. I don't see how anyone can play LOTRO and watch movies and surf the web as there are at times, quite a lot of text to read.

And are you really giving the movie its due if you are doing something else? What the heck is happening to people!

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Originally posted by JonMichael

 

Originally posted by openedge1

Every time we played, he watched TV or movies or would be cruising websites and even one time fell asleep while playing..

As he said..I only need to press several buttons to win..

What does that say for the game?...Ouch!

 

Sounds like your friend has a severe case of ADD. ;)

 

 

 

Yeah, I agree. I don't see how anyone can play LOTRO and watch movies and surf the web as there are at times, quite a lot of text to read.

And are you really giving the movie its due if you are doing something else? What the heck is happening to people!

Originally posted by Huntress19

 

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Originally posted by JonMichael

 

Originally posted by openedge1

Every time we played, he watched TV or movies or would be cruising websites and even one time fell asleep while playing..

As he said..I only need to press several buttons to win..

What does that say for the game?...Ouch!

 

Sounds like your friend has a severe case of ADD. ;)

 

 

 

Yeah, I agree. I don't see how anyone can play LOTRO and watch movies and surf the web as there are at times, quite a lot of text to read.

And are you really giving the movie its due if you are doing something else? What the heck is happening to people!

My lil brother is 7 and he plays lotro. You can kill things and do quests without reading. (he cant read very well yet), just look where the next ring appears on the minimap.

 

 

When one is an adult and playing a game, watching a movie, or what have you, I would expect that they would want to give it their full attention!

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Oh, I'm sure. I know a young boy who is 6 who plays along with his father and enjoys it. But he's 6.

 

When one is an adult and playing a game, watching a movie, or what have you, I would expect that they would want to give it their full attention!

Nonsense, its called multi-tasking and these days folks are expected to do it in all aspects of their lives, even gaming.

MMORPG's are perfect for it, since almost all of them have boring timesinks built into them, be it long travel times, crafting the same item endlessly, or heck, even running the same raid for the 35th time, and knowing your role by heart.

While playing games I always have a few website windows open (like MMORPG.com) and have even been known to read books while killing time crafting or traveling.

One fun way to kill the boredom is to play two clients on the same computer, another way I keep busy.

And yes, I even watch TV sometimes, movies you've seen before are the best choice, because then you really don't have to pay constant attention, you can just watch it when you have an opportunity and you always know what's going on.

But even for new shows, like episodes of Battlestar Galactica or Dr. Who the solution is to just watch them 2 times in the same evening, (the both play 2 times in a row) and you can pretty much pick up the whole story.    .  (and dont forget to set the DVR...then you control the action)

edit: Oh yeah, almost forgot, back to the OP.  You're reaction is unsurprising, especially considering your background.

I lasted a bit longer, but by time I had a level 30 Guardian and 24 MInstrel, I was bored to tears for some reason and moved over to EVE.  (almost a year ago now)

LotRO is the best game I've ever left after 2 months of gameplay... never did really figure out why.l

Originally posted by Snorf

well just because you havent run into any bullies in LOTRO means there are none? I have yet to find a single PUG instance in Lotro where it doesnt happen.

There was only 1 single time when i put someone on /ignore for the reason how he/she behaved and acted in in a PUG (the rest were spammer /ignores only).

DB

Originally posted by Kyleran  

 

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Oh, I'm sure. I know a young boy who is 6 who plays along with his father and enjoys it. But he's 6.

 

When one is an adult and playing a game, watching a movie, or what have you, I would expect that they would want to give it their full attention!

 

Nonsense, its called multi-tasking and these days folks are expected to do it in all aspects of their lives, even gaming.

MMORPG's are perfect for it, since almost all of them have boring timesinks built into them, be it long travel times, crafting the same item endlessly, or heck, even running the same raid for the 35th time, and knowing your role by heart.

While playing games I always have a few website windows open (like MMORPG.com) and have even been known to read books while killing time crafting or traveling.

One fun way to kill the boredom is to play two clients on the same computer, another way I keep busy.

And yes, I even watch TV sometimes, movies you've seen before are the best choice, because then you really don't have to pay constant attention, you can just watch it when you have an opportunity and you always know what's going on.

Space travel, mining, Skill learning times....

In almost every other game tho (including LOTRO, but I could mention WOW, EQ2, etc.). There only a few such timesinks, that allow you to do something else, with actually being able to pay attention to that other activity. Such are: horse travel (where there is no quick travel option), and crafting large amounts of stuffs (typically raw mats processing).

If you're doing anything else, you need to pay at least so much attention, that would annihiliate the possibility of listening to something else at all.

BTW, my friend used to be an EVE addict, he also played 2 clients running at the same time :)) it really says a lot! :)

DB

Originally posted by Huntress19

 

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Originally posted by JonMichael

 

Originally posted by openedge1

Every time we played, he watched TV or movies or would be cruising websites and even one time fell asleep while playing..

As he said..I only need to press several buttons to win..

What does that say for the game?...Ouch!

 

Sounds like your friend has a severe case of ADD. ;)

 

 

 

Yeah, I agree. I don't see how anyone can play LOTRO and watch movies and surf the web as there are at times, quite a lot of text to read.

And are you really giving the movie its due if you are doing something else? What the heck is happening to people!

My lil brother is 7 and he plays lotro. You can kill things and do quests without reading. (he cant read very well yet), just look where the next ring appears on the minimap.

 

 

Oh is that what those burning rings are for?

I always though they were like... some kind of mini-game... Have to steal the ring from over their head... The more flames it's engulfed in, the better the ring is and the better the prize you get for it.

Darn.

So... no prizes for those things, I guess huh. :(

Bummer. So I wasted money on perfectly good asbestos gloves.

 As it stands, I can't even play the game. My PC fried ... and it didn't even ask permission first.

So I'm on this lousy borrowed PC from work 'til my new one arrives. It's okay though.. you all go on and have fun without me. Leave me out of the festivities. -sniff-. Cool part is, I've been playing through Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment again; quite nostalgic. Playing them through Gametap. Awesome service :-D

Originally posted by Snorf

well just because you havent run into any bullies in LOTRO means there are none? I have yet to find a single PUG instance in Lotro where it doesnt happen.

Actually I see you as one of the bullies, and my time playing EQ I can remember a stunt or two you pulled there with those very same idealistic attitudes of how self important you are.  Perhaps since you left the LoTRO, and many of those of like mind left also, we don't see that bully attitude much anymore.  Some may even say that there is a correlation between the bullies and the exodus of Snorf and others?  You tend to portray those very same attitudes on these forums.  Anyone that enjoys this game in constantly belittled for playing "a dumbed down version of WoW" or a "single player" MMO as you like to say.  The point is these people enjoy the game, stop belittling them for actually having fun.  And stop taking it out on the game and the people that play it just because some minstrel ruined you day that one time, OMGZ!!

And that MMO players are mostly introverted, socially limited individuals is just your own strange reality. Probably taken from yourself /shrug.

Ok, just a little review of psychology.  There are two types of people, extroverted and introverted.  Do you know what those terms mean?  Since this definition of personalities only has two types, it is not calling either better or worse than the other.  And again you use the term socially limited, which is NOT the term I used.  Socially isolated is the term is used.  So back to the review, introverted individuals tend to be shy, less outgoing, and less involved in typical social encounter, and thus making them socially isolated.  On the flip side of the personality type of the extroverted, we find a person that actually seeks out social interaction, which is mainly focused on face to face encounters, not gaming.  Now if you would like I would be happy to find a study or two that indicate most gamers are of the introverted personality.  So therefore, it is not about my "own strange reality" it is about reality.  Your denial of even the most basic terms of personality studies in the field of psychology just go to show your own personal lacking in the expertise of social exchanges among groups, thus implying you are a bully.

The garbage about the sleeper i never got your point in that. What exactly is your problem with the sleeper encounter? its just an encounter. Which i never played since my guild never focused on him.

My problem is that if a game, albeit EQ or LoTRO, does NOT fit your vision it must suck.  And to continually point out that anyone that enjoys any game outside of your vision must be lacking in skill, aptitude, or knowledge is your failing, not mine.

Reading this forum i see alot of very mature discussions going on, where LOTRO failed expectations and where it scored.

Except for you continual chiding of anyone that actually enjoys a game that you do NOT play or have NOT played in some time.

Why you so sensitive about your game being critisised is beyond me.

I am sensitive about anyone that attempts to derail a consumers enjoyment of a product based on intimidations and focus on negative remarks towards the product and the consumer that enjoys said product.  Again implying that you are a bully.

Do you enjoy embarassing yourself as a fanboy?

Just because I enjoy something you don't makes me embarrassing myself as a fanboy?  So I guess it would be more relevant if I spent my time on the EQ boards bashing that game in order to legitimize my enjoyment of LoTRO?  But then again that would just make me a "hater" wouldn't it?  So in turn, do you enjoy embarrASSing yourself as a HATER?

This game has disappointed alot of players who demanded it to be more than just the other MMOs out there. Of course these people want to discuss why - so why dont you let them?

On the other hand it has pleased a LOT (number 2 in the US market) of players that are tired of the same ole same ole grind of those other "more demanding" MMO's out there.  And for people that want to discuss their disappointment in the game, I have no objections in the slightest as long as they do it without putting down the players that DO enjoy the game.  And that is why I tend to call out certain Jack Asses on these boards, because it is NOT about discussing it is about criticizing those that do enjoy something they do not.

 

snorf

Originally posted by DragonOak

Originally posted by Snorf

well just because you havent run into any bullies in LOTRO means there are none? I have yet to find a single PUG instance in Lotro where it doesnt happen.

Actually I see you as one of the bullies, and my time playing EQ I can remember a stunt or two you pulled there with those very same idealistic attitudes of how self important you are.  Perhaps since you left the LoTRO, and many of those of like mind left also, we don't see that bully attitude much anymore.  Some may even say that there is a correlation between the bullies and the exodus of Snorf and others?  You tend to portray those very same attitudes on these forums.  Anyone that enjoys this game in constantly belittled for playing "a dumbed down version of WoW" or a "single player" MMO as you like to say.  The point is these people enjoy the game, stop belittling them for actually having fun.  And stop taking it out on the game and the people that play it just because some minstrel ruined you day that one time, OMGZ!!

Well, you make it look like you know me while you surely dont, i havent played a puller in EQ and hardly ever pulled except fun groups where i was with friends. So - stop telling the forum readers lies that you know me. And i am for sure not known as a "bully" rofl. Quite the opposite would be true.

 

And that MMO players are mostly introverted, socially limited individuals is just your own strange reality. Probably taken from yourself /shrug.

Ok, just a little review of psychology.  There are two types of people, extroverted and introverted.  Do you know what those terms mean?  Since this definition of personalities only has two types, it is not calling either better or worse than the other.  And again you use the term socially limited, which is NOT the term I used.  Socially isolated is the term is used.  So back to the review, introverted individuals tend to be shy, less outgoing, and less involved in typical social encounter, and thus making them socially isolated.  On the flip side of the personality type of the extroverted, we find a person that actually seeks out social interaction, which is mainly focused on face to face encounters, not gaming.  Now if you would like I would be happy to find a study or two that indicate most gamers are of the introverted personality.  So therefore, it is not about my "own strange reality" it is about reality.  Your denial of even the most basic terms of personality studies in the field of psychology just go to show your own personal lacking in the expertise of social exchanges among groups, thus implying you are a bully.

So you had a summer course in psychology... not bad - maybe try another 10 semesters before writing such nonsense. Socially isolated is even a worse insult than socially limited. So by rephrasing your bullshit i actually did you a favor. Now you embarrassed yourself again.

The garbage about the sleeper i never got your point in that. What exactly is your problem with the sleeper encounter? its just an encounter. Which i never played since my guild never focused on him.

My problem is that if a game, albeit EQ or LoTRO, does NOT fit your vision it must suck.  And to continually point out that anyone that enjoys any game outside of your vision must be lacking in skill, aptitude, or knowledge is your failing, not mine.

And what exactly does that have to do with the sleeper encounter? And i never said lotro sucks - i say its not what tolkines story deserved. An easy mode mainstream soap opera wannabe MMO with no depths.

Reading this forum i see alot of very mature discussions going on, where LOTRO failed expectations and where it scored.

Except for you continual chiding of anyone that actually enjoys a game that you do NOT play or have NOT played in some time.

True i havent played much LOTRO but i watch my nieche playing it, she is 9 and has fun - totaly fine with me. I dont tell her "ooohooo this is a boring game" whats your point again?

Why you so sensitive about your game being critisised is beyond me.

I am sensitive about anyone that attempts to derail a consumers enjoyment of a product based on intimidations and focus on negative remarks towards the product and the consumer that enjoys said product.  Again implying that you are a bully.

Lol read the forums, whenever someone writes LOTRO is weak in this or that aspect you jump in and start a holy crusade to defend your precious game. The holy crusading bully here is you man.

 

Do you enjoy embarassing yourself as a fanboy?

Just because I enjoy something you don't makes me embarrassing myself as a fanboy?  So I guess it would be more relevant if I spent my time on the EQ boards bashing that game in order to legitimize my enjoyment of LoTRO?  But then again that would just make me a "hater" wouldn't it?  So in turn, do you enjoy embarrASSing yourself as a HATER?

Look, i have written down pro's and con's of LOTRO that i see. From an experienced point of view. To judge a product you need to find pro's and con's. Again, all you did was bashing my con's and writing an embarrassing onesided list of pro's which makes it clear you lack the neutral view but only see it as a fanboy.

This game has disappointed alot of players who demanded it to be more than just the other MMOs out there. Of course these people want to discuss why - so why dont you let them?

On the other hand it has pleased a LOT (number 2 in the US market) of players that are tired of the same ole same ole grind of those other "more demanding" MMO's out there.  And for people that want to discuss their disappointment in the game, I have no objections in the slightest as long as they do it without putting down the players that DO enjoy the game.  And that is why I tend to call out certain Jack Asses on these boards, because it is NOT about discussing it is about criticizing those that do enjoy something they do not.

 This other hand is by 2/3rd people who either only know WoW or not any other MMO. These people would love pac-man online too if you write tolkien above it. 10 years ago i would have praised lotro as the breaktrhough in gaming. But with the knowledge that almost every other MMO out there has more gameplay depths, more teamplay and more complexity this makes LOTRO look like a wannabe game with good graphics. And there are many threads (you all know them, you crusade in them) where people wonder why LOTRO is no fun for them - and the answer is: because they are used to better gameplay and miss the thrill and intensity of games with deoths.

So keep trying to call me bully, its just rubbish. Keep crying like a baby everytime someone says LOTRO lacks this or that. Its your own forum reputation you ruin.

snorf

 

Originally posted by Snorf

Originally posted by DragonOak

Originally posted by Snorf

Well, you make it look like you know me while you surely dont, i havent played a puller in EQ and hardly ever pulled except fun groups where i was with friends. So - stop telling the forum readers lies that you know me. And i am for sure not known as a "bully" rofl. Quite the opposite would be true.

 You have played a cleric for a very long time Snorf.  You may want to actually try and read what I post, I said you pulled a stunt or two.  Stunt is not a mob in EQ,  I guess you figure a stunt must be that elusive mob you have yet to see in EQ, maybe the guildies took you on a stunt hunt one night, and left you all alone for the whole night.  T