I don't mean to be rude, but that was one of the worst presentations i've seen for a game's combat demo.

They literally could have paid a 10yr old walking around with his father to play 3x better than the person playing this for the video. Not only that, but they made it seem like the game is completely unresponsive & massively more instanced than FF11 was.

The hell =.=?

Don't expect rainbows outta it.. this is FF11 polished and with better graphics.. SQUARE-ENIX has this "not learning with its mistakes" kinda thingie going around.. they don't understand that to make a good MMO they have to do a bit more then get better graphics.. I'm complaining about it but I used to like FF11.. hope they don't make the same crap again with FF14..

Didn't SE annouce they have over 2million active subs?  FFXI is doing just fine.  FFXI is not a bad game but rather FFXI is not for everyone.  SE has it's mind set on a design and sticks to it.  If you want mass appeal MMO's stick to the crap Blizzard and Bioware are trying to push out.

LOL. WHAT A BORING CRAP-

i pity everyone that plays this crap. I would never waste my life on this crap.

Uhh, yeah...

What the first poster said. That was a pathetic presentation.

Was it me... or did that guy playing, have NO idea what the hell he was doing.  Be nice to see a vid like this, with a more experienced player.

It came as a clear surprise to him that in fact, not every MMO plays the same way. Can't wait to hear the "hands-on" where he rants that he actually had to learn something new after how many years of rehashed games. That can't be good now can it?

I mean, not knowing how to play the game = the game must be bad. 

You're right, it does handle differently than most MMOs, and I do think that people coming to it for the first time are going to have a bit of a learning curve. That said, I think people that are used to it via the last game aren't going to have any difficulty with it at all.

I thnk doing things differently is a good thing, just maybe giving someone a heads up before giving them an on-screen demo might be prudent.

My first time with the game was literally 10 seconds before fimiling began, and I wasn't warned that the controls were going to be different from a standard MMO. That doesn't mean I judge the game on that criteria, it just means that as someone who doesn't play FF, it came as a sudden adjustment.

FFXI has 20 servers with over 600k players 8 years after release. And its still a number one seller on ebgames.com SE knows how to build a long lasting community with game worth playing for years. Unlike all the flashy mmos of late with no content.

FFXI nor FFXIV might be for you, but trust me they will have a huge success on there hands when it releases later this year.

Sounds reasonable, and you can't be blamed really. It is too bad, though, that this presentation doesn't really give a fair picture of the game- for the wrong reasons. People that just watch it on the face value will not understand that you had trouble adapting to it...

But that can't be helped now. Hopefully SE releases a video from a more experienced players view sooner or later. Right now the potential is simply going to waste like this.

The game itself looks nice and crisp. It had atmosphere (and a few bugs/glitches/lack of content - but hey, its not released yet). The main problem with FFXI is that it's really not made for PC. It's just ported over, and not very elegantly so, either. That in my book would be a mistake if they did the same with 14 (i.e. the "SE concept").

Other than that: Looks promising.

LOL @ Fadedbomb. I agree... the person playing the character  looks like someone thats never played any FF game. I feel bad for the guy holding the mic - hes very patient. I wouldve been like OMGWTF are you doing!?!  He shouldve been playing and talking. Would have been less painful.

Technically, it's not even a port this time. 

They only need to do something about the mouse controls, because some people just can't adapt to being mouseless. Even if there isn't much difference at all. 

This was a poor choice for a demo video on mmorpg.com. Unless the author's intent was to give a negative impression of FF.

Is the game is good or bad? I don't know. Watching this video was frustrating. Are the controls horrible, was the person playing simply new to this genre, were they playing on a PS3 or computer?

Something I really dislike about this game so far is that the characters appear to be on roller skates. I know this is like a japanese game staple. But... who does a quickslide everytime they turn around or pivots while walking?

I can honestly say i'm not impressed.  It looks far too complicated to be any fun for me.

"But... who does a quickslide everytime they turn around"

When running? It's hard not to.

Why in every combat footage I have seen of this game the person playing has no clue what they are doing? Hows about giving us a real combat demo with people who know how to play so we can really see how the combat works in full speed?

Any news if the mapping system will be the same as ffxi?

I hope they leave it the same so people are forced to go adventure into new zones to buy the maps so that they could see the whole map not the small area they are in when they open the whole map.

SE should try for once make a real video...

Explaining the game while playing it WON'T show how it's in reality and please like others said make someone that at least played it maybe someone from SE? your just making the game show bad.

I gotta agree with the sentiments here.  Nothing of this showcased the game.  Just that the people playing it were idiots.

Red card.

Boring.(with the capital B)

To me it was a nice presentation if u look past the fact the guy playing was unfamiliar whit the controls.

But to be honest if u making an presentation of a combat/quest get familiar whit the controls before u put it on a vid is a good advice , good preperations is more than half the job.

I don't understand all this fuzz about the guy being not familiar with the controls. He is not playing a flight simulator ffs. All he did was moving around and some basic attacks. If an unexperienced player can't do these basic stuff easily than that will start to bother me. I just hope is not so clunky for pc as FFXI was. Seriously, I want to play with keyboard and mouse easily. That's not too much to ask.

Btw screw consoles.

Yes, having to learn anything new does bother me too. I wish we would be past that in this time and age of cookie-cutter FPS's and copies of the same game in a different setting.

It looks amazing. Can't say too much for the combat cause anyone thats never played a game before is going to look rubbish.

Agreed, bad demonstration. Half the time these guys are standing around doing nothing.

Might have been better to film someone who could effectively demonstrate said combat.

The combat style looks very sluggish, but slower turn based  combat appeals to a lot of people so that is subjective to the person playing.  The environment and textures look really nice.  The character model action doesn't look good at all.  Whenever the character turns it looks very blocky and klunky.

I think FF players will love this.  Everyone else probably not so much.  I'm pretty sure this will be a skipper for me.  Good to know that early on though.

Two things I noticed: You don't have to open a radial menu to simply attack a mob (HUGE improvement from FFXI), and overall much more user friendly than FFXI. It took Stradden only a few minutes to get used to the controls, and that was a GOOD thing. If he still played like he did the first minute into the video, THEN, we would be in trouble.

Otherwise, quit complaining. There's other games coming out soon you can play if you don't like this one.

Oh but I wanna play it that's why I'm kinda worried about the controls. Otherwise I wouldn't give a crap. Although the game does seam to be much more pc friendly than FFXI and so far I like the graphics and animations.

Not a very convincing presentation. And on top of that, the game looks horrible.

I heard listening to instructions and following a guy is hard.

wow this looks terrible... i sure as hell wont be playing it

The guy playing Alexander must have been a complete noob. He couldn't even control the direction of his character. The guy with the mic should have slapped him in the back of the head, kicked him out fo the chair and put someone else in it, lol.

the game is every bit as sluggish and non-responsive as it looks and the controls are not at all intuitive. if that was indeed the first time that person has played using that control set he did an amazing job..

and for the people sarcasticly remarking about learning something new.. it's not new, it's the same fail controls they've been using for the last 8 yrs

I can't deny that the presentation was utter crap. Looking past that, combat could be intersting, at least it flows better now.

/sigh... people seem to be unable to grasp the concept that this is still in development and testing. The devs themselves have said the game will change drastically with each phase of alpha and beta AND that the goal of alpha was/is not to test combat so much as to check for general bugs in the menus and game world and stabilize the server. The combat is slow and unresponsive atm in large part because its not finished yet. As the testing continues they will change/fix the combat. The game we see at launch will be a different creature I assure you...

Looked good to me.  I'm glad more mogs are in development for consoles.  I'd rather game on my pc but consoles give far less headaches if any. 

No hardware upgrade headaches, no software conflict headaches.......put a game in a console and it will play fine for years 99% of the time.

"The game we see at launch will be a different creature I assure you..."

If this was the 3rd or perhaps 4th game I ever saw in beta stage. I may agree. However, I have seen many, many games in various stages of dev. RTM is rarely dramatically different in core gameplay. This isn't alpha, not if Square still believes it's going to launch in 2010 - 6 months left. Fool me once and all that.

Ultimately I have been excited and concerned with this title. Fearful that they will repeat the same control and play mistakes from FFXI. This is the japanese gaming way - lost in NA translation.

That look cumbersome and awkward to watch and I bet to play as well.

Combat was very lackluster. Simply boring and uninspiring. I wish eastern game studios would stop creating the same ol' same ol', their RPGs and MMOs have become pretty stagnant. Wish they weren't so afraid to take risks and innovate. Although some Korean studios are starting to innovate in some parts, they still have some areas that need evolving. Hopefully  Japan, Taiwan, and China game studios will follow suit.

Huh, either the game feels so clumsy, or the person playing it is just horrible!

Aside from the poor presentation and what seems to be a needlessly complex combat system, if I have to chase after run away mobs every other combat or so this goes into the "meh... next"  pile pretty quick.

The person playing it obviously didn't know what he was doing. Graphics look pretty decent, but it's 2010 and this is a "AAA" title so of course they should look decent. It definitely looks in need of more work, but that also goes without saying. Like all MMO's you need to wait for after launch and a free trial to see for yourself how it really plays. If when the time comes you're stupid enough to do a pre-order you then only have yourself to blaim if it turns out to be a p.o.s.

I hate admitting it, but this video was boring. Sure it looks real good, and very familiar to FFXI, but boring! This demo did not sell me on the combat mechanics or flow...how disappointing :/

Even if the presentation is bad, the combat itself seems pretty slow and lame.

Did this guy controlling the chars or rather failing at controlling intentionally act that clueless?

I mean how many people exist that visit the E3 and play games like that.

I don't think it is because of horrible gameplay - if it is anything like FFXI there is no mouse. It is all keyboard controls. And I remember it being very daunting to learn the keymaps. So this guy probably never played this game in this demo. Once you learn the keymaps it is very intuitive though. Been years since I played. Hopefully controls will include mouse on release.

Holy shit, the person actually playing should be dragged out back and shot. What an idiot. Ruined the entire presentation.

That was quite painful to watch.

wow...  really?   this is the next big thing?

it's should of just been a add on to FF11.  It looks the same but with extra bits.

Seriously, her battle stance is a carbon copy of 11.  The crab attack (Althoug bigger) are the same the crabs did at the Valky dunes.  It seems to follow that whole *Run around for several minutes before getting to the place you need to be.  This mob  "running away"mechanic they added will just be a joy in dangerous high aggro areas.

  All we need to see to make it complete would be 30 to 40 minute hikes in 1 hit kill areas to party for 15 minutes.

And right at the start, That sure as hell looked like Black Mage AF.  So they just gonna Carbon copy 80% of 11?   Hell they used all the same races but gave them new fancy names.    

I was real interested in seing 14 but the more I see of it...  the worst it makes me feel.    It's  so blantantly the same it's almost insulting.

I wonder if they will kill your account after 3 months of inactivity they did with 11.  That was a nice kick to the face, why not repeat that too.

im going with everyone else on this one, besides the fact that the guy playing is a complete retard, evey vid including this garbage looks Boorrriiinnnnggggggg.........

I'm looking forward to this game, but I will say... To those saying the demo wasn't good because the demoer didn't know what they were doing. Keep in mind, this is someone testing the game out having (presumably) never played it before.

To me... it seems the controls aren't as intuitive as they could be. I say this as someone who played and had no trouble at all with FFXI... But I was really hoping this time around SE would have done a bit more with making the non-gamepad controls more fluid and more intuitive.

Anyone demoing that game - be it from a gaming website or not - should be able to pick it up and within a few moments have the ability to navigate and perform basic tasks - like entering combat and selecting attacks - fluidly. It looked like they were fighting with the controls through the entire segment... not a good sign.

In what I've read and seen of FFXIV so far, it's already known that SE is sticking with the "keyboard or gamepad" setup they had with XI, only the keyboard config looks to be even more involved than the FFXI setup was, now with having to sheathe, unsheathe... etc. etc.

Just seems to me that SE are making the controls more cumbersome than they need to be. I'm saving my final analysis and judgment 'til I've had more time to play hands-on, but it looks like this might be one for the gamepad.

I believe you are all missing the point.

They looked for the dumbest guy on the floor and then put him infront of the FFXIV demo and told him to follow instructions.  Even though he was clearly a complete moron, he still completed the objective.  So if you are smarter than your average village idiot you can go somewhere in FFXIV.

I would go as far to say, if you are 2 - 3 times dumber than the idiot in your village, you can still complete the quest task.

I agree that the presentation did very horrible job showing the community here @ mmorpg.com how the game really is.

I hope they do a 14 day free trial, as I would like to get a feel for it through my own eyes, rather than the 8 minute preview of a mentally challanged and obese 40 year old virgin.

I think I would have lost my temper at the tool with the mic sticking his hands in my way every 5 seconds. I've played XI and if the controls in XIV are similar there will be a learning curve for anyone who has never played before.

Honestly how can a person attending E3 have no clue how to play an mmorpg and make the video frustrating to watch.  It is like watching my mom try and play an mmorpg for the first time.  The guy was trying to show off some weapon skills but the retard playing couldnt even do anything but auto attack.

And why film someone that has no clue what is going on?  That is a horrible way to show off the game. An average gamer, especially on this website, would be able to do so much better.

So, I guess theres no jumping or swimming?

That demo sucked, this game looks just as slow as FFXI, why is everyone so hyped for this game, it looks aweful. Screw this slow crap

Well.  That game-play couldn't have looked any more dull. 

Aion looked pretty as graphics go, also.  We shouldnt be swayed by pretty shiny things.  What I see is a heavily emphasized pve game with the same quests we've been doing for the last 10-years, being lead around on a leash with "arrows" that cruise-control you from one location to the next.

I really wish they would make it futuristic instead of pure fantasy alla ff VII or even VIII.  I don't know. Lots of FF games had a futuristic "mech" type theme even if heavily sedated with fantasy.   This does look quite carbon copy of FFXI as some people are saying; good thing I never got a chance to play XI.  I might enjoy XIV quite a bit.

I was really intrested in FF till I started seeing the videos. This game looks like something from 5 years ago. No thanks.

Sucks... Boring, bland, non-immersive.... Sucks.

that was a pretty weak presentation.  The only combat I really got to see was the operator combating the controls of the game.

LOL FF11 was the better mmo in the 1999 now is  BBORING (with double b yeah !)  2 milion of people in that game are only child of korea and japan and china , the style is old the graphic is old, gameplay is boring because we have to wait tooo many time for take an hit or a skill, so pls don't defend ff11 like the big mmo in al over the world, RO was more fun ... and now they give another cap for what? because ff14 is'nt ready. 

so for me ff14 is really beautiful so fantastic to see and so BBORING to play, really i can't understand in this year mmo are going to begin a new era of gameplay in mmorpg, see tera for example, so why using a gameplay soo boring ? and what is more fantastic that they said that NOW The GamePlay is more FAST .... fast for who for a children of 5 when you start the game you can see the tag from five years old beware. rotfl

yeah who ever was playing that game game is mentally retarded. you got a hotbar and a mouse, WASD whats the fuggen problem.

One of the most padded game presenations I have seen. I dont think we should formulate opinons on FFIV, it was so poor no game could look good.

This looks really beautiful. They know how to do graphics. See how she runs? It is amazing.

The demo was of course ridiculous, but you do have to give some slack with someone that does not know how that game will control is at the wheel. Of course, I absolutely hate hate hate how FFXI controlled, and the lack of a way to change it to more logical controls was a dealbreaker for me. I am not going to play a game with illogical, arcane key configurations and no way to change them.

Well, after following SW:ToR for the past 6 months and now watching this video, I'm beginning to wonder if game developers have completely fallen off their rockers. Age of Conan was a step in the right direction with innovative combat and extreme graphics. FFXIV seems like a well developed game, but if the combat looks dull, it probably is. At least it's not as boring looking as SW:ToR though.

That was not an impressive demo at all. The guy that was playing didn't seem to be familiar with the controls at all. It was quite frustrating to see the guy move around. 

So far Im not impressed with the game either, at least I have The old republic to look forward to.

I hope this is F2P, because I don't see many people paying for this :)

The UI was one of things I loved about FFXI, everything is hidden in menus making it neat and tidy, it doesn't take long to get used to, so people panicking about this, don't worry, it's actually pretty straight forward once you get used to it.  I am so desperate to play this game it hurts!

It won't be f2p, as people have already said, FFXI still has a loyal community and tbh I'm sure it always will, it's the ONLY game I've played where years later I am sharing nostalgic thoughts with others about time spent in the game.

Never seen such an amount of bad talk about a game on the site and i agree, the game does look bad in all aspects... as bad as FFXI was/is

looks awesome! can't wait! ^.^

I'd fall asleep with this combat system...

I have to agree that the combat looks incredably slow still it looks about 10x faster than the leaked alpha videos.  Overall the graphics dont look bad.  The guy controling the character seemed to be distracted and was fairly terrible.

I would take this thing down and pretend you didn't put it up. Game looks nice but gives hardly any real impression of the combat.

I'm not an FF online fan in the first place and don't have even decent expectations for the title but I have to say that this is a TERRIBLE showing of it. You kinda should have been aware that the controls were different than other MMOs based on the fact this is going on a console and FFXI has some of the dumbest controls in MMOs

I hope that wasn't someone from the mmorpg.com team.  That'd be embarrassing.  Great first question, "So, what sets the game and camera controls apart from other MMO's in UnfinishedGame#12380?"  If you're getting free tickets to E3, don't suck at your job please.

"Go over to pheonix....if you just go over to to pehonix....just walk on over to pheonix....if you look over there, you hould just walk that way."

I'm sorry to whoever demoed this, but you're being taped for a video. You don't shit around with the controls. THE CRAB IS RUNNING AWAY. DO NOT STOP ATTACKING IT! I don't care what phalanx does, I want to see what it's like to finish the quest.

Stop sheathing and unsheathing your weapon for 5 minutes cause he told you it was a feature. Don't run around in circles while he tell you to CLEARLY walk over there!

I was really frustrated watching this...

On the other hand, I think the game's combat is definitely a lot faster than FF11 (maybe not as fast as other games, but some improvement is much appreciated). Also the world looks very immersive and pretty which I like. I love immersive worlds.

I keep reading comments that seem to point to the game not moving around with a mouse?

I hope that's not the case because there goes most of your subscribers. What kind of online game doesn't allow the precision of moving around? 

Also, I hope the combat isn't this slow. I nearly fell asleep watching this.

...Crabs? .... Is that supposed to be fun? Am I the only one that thinks killing oversized yet "real-life" animals is not fun?

...Crabs? .... Is that supposed to be fun? Am I the only one that thinks killing oversized yet "real-life" animals is not fun?

no, you're not alone.

Am I the only one that actually likes this video? Maybe it's just because I'm used to FFXI and understand the difficulty of getting used to the controls for the first time...

Either way the game looks to be shaping up as I expected. I'm looking forward to it. :)

Wow lots of hate going on. Still want to try it out looks interesting I liked 11 but the ease of WoW took me away from it. Sure they guy did not know what the heck he was doing, more than likely it was the first time he played something like it. I saw a cursor but is it on PS3 or PC? And what was with the Crab? Was he trying to zone, he just took off running lol. Unless your doing a lot of quest at the same time it should not take you an hour to get to the quest location unless its a continent away then I see the whole traveling thing. I do not want the whole two steps and there's the mob either, you would think there would be more mobs around for you to kill then hey lets go find the HNM crab for this quest...

lol are you kidding me? this video was soooo boring. how can you call that a combat demo? i just saw tera's demo after this and it blows it AWAY in all regards. even graphics which doesn't even mean anything. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI7oXVy-RPk

go to 48 seconds to see what a real crab fight should look like.

What makes this combat really bad is why the hell do you have to click on the mob then lock on to it just to use your skills. The lock on should go waste of time just to attack on top of that you have to press F so you click on the mob press F to bring out your weapon then press T for target just to fight crazy. So it's Tab F T then skills lol

Probably right Dragon hope they come up with something better than this. But hey they are working the kinks out of it right now so might be a better or worse game when it comes out. Hope its a better game cause I want to play it.

I would be more happy if FFXIV can just import the level from FFXI.

I have to say FFXI is the BEST game in the world for me. I love it, it is the longest MMO i ever played and i pretty much played every big title out there, AC1/2, EQ, EQ2 , SWG, WOW, WAR, Lineage1/2, Monster hunter frontier, FeZero, Perfect world, Uncharted water online. 

Seriously only people that appreciate hard work = reward will love this game, i personnally found the speed of the game is the FASTEST of all the game i ever play.

I can't even keep up as a RDM or BLM or WHM most of the time. BRD is need constant moving, can't even take a break.

There are some nice ideas in the game.  This demo is definitely bad but it does show off the worse aspect of the game right now is the horrible camera interface.  Lets just say the camera panning they were doing wasn't because they were trying to do it....

That looked pretty boring, to be honest, and it's not entirely because of the poor controls.  This was all around unimaginative, just rehashing what's been done 10 trillion times before.

The most irritating thing about this video is how the guy smacked his lips every freak'n time he opened his mouth.  I may very well have walked out, unless the noise on the floor masked his constant "tsk"... or however you want to describe it.

The guy using the controler must be the worst player i ever seen in my life, is he playing with his feet ??

I hope this game will have more to offer than what it's presenting right now in terms of gameplay...

So it's another "clicker"? Huh..

They should've sticked with ATB or with turn based combat. This slow "real time battle" with movement looks boring as hell.

Well the sword was beautiful...)

http://www.youtube.com/user/FINALFANTASYXIV

they just put up a new alpha/beta comparison video that shows things much MUCH better imo.

correction ffxi realses in 2002 in japan not 1999

ffxi fan lover can see the realllity, if this game want to survive in the actuallity need change combat system, more dynamic

well, SE put quest for lvl not more eternal grind and freak economy

i hope SE considered quit CAMPING hnm because it was awful

wait for hours the spawn and the bot always win

Either the game is gonna blow or the guy playing is just a dumbfuck. maybe its both? who knows....

I think I blinked as I missed the combat-or what was suppose to be the combat.

This is just bad as a preview. Why would you want to play this game after seeing this.

The most impresive part is how retarded the guy playing the char looks. Huntard much?

THIS is faster than alpha? So in alpha, you attacked once every 3 hours? Woow.

What I get from this combat video is the combat is semi-turned based. No idea if this is bad or not, but it is different.

I agree with many the other poseters terrible presentation, don't get me wrong I'm still anticipating the game. Maybe they should have prepared before a major demonstration instead of spending 5 mins to figure out how to start a quest?  Also maybe it's just me, but I really don't wanna spend 10 minutes chasing down mobs that run away from me.

Looks like camera controls havent been improved from alpha. Still a pain in the ace to navigate.

@ the people complaining about controls. FFXI controls threw me for a loop at first but once I got used to using only a keyboard it was awesome.

They are using similar controls to ffxi because once people got used to them they absolutely loved it.

and always having both hands on the keyboard gives you an awful lot of buttons. and you will need a lot of controls to excel in FFXIV

I'll probably just get the ps3 version and use a controller, cuz that's what the controlls are designed for anyways.

Why are people saying this game plays differently to your standard mmo? From that demo it looked about as standard as you can get.......but with nice graphics of course. Gotta kill x monsters? Ok run to an area where all the monsters are waiting to be "harvested", stand next to one and click the relevant buttons to cause its death animation to occur, walk to the next one, rinse repeat until all of the monsters have been "collected", run back, get quest reward. Watch as other players around you perform the same tasks as you. Brilliant.

This looks like wow.

:<

no excuses for the presenter getting somebody not familar with the controller & unprepared themselves for E3 2010. and most of the time they are just running and chasing a crab...(yeah crap). The combat is slow and truly boring.

ooh yeah should change the subject to "E3 Final Fantasy XIV Running & Chasing Demo (8:39)"

this game looks linear as shit and whoever is playing this game seriously sucks

This demo makes the game look so f'ing boring I would never even consider trying it out...

Wish i didn't have anything to complin about since i'm a big SE games fan but this presentation...

Even my 2yo daughter could've played it better then the guy on the video and she just limits to button mashing

I like the changes they made to combat from Alpha to beta. Big improvement.

8:39 mins of nothing :(!

Well, after following SW:ToR for the past 6 months and now watching this video, I'm beginning to wonder if game developers have completely fallen off their rockers. Age of Conan was a step in the right direction with innovative combat and extreme graphics. FFXIV seems like a well developed game, but if the combat looks dull, it probably is. At least it's not as boring looking as SW:ToR though.

You got to be seriously joking on that statement about ToR man, this shit would put anyone to sleep with in 20mins, actually this video made me catch a quick 3min nap. All the vids on ToR is more kick ass than this, you on some major bull shit, you are basically saying this mmo is well developed over the developing ToR..... yeah right!

It looks kinda stupid to me.....Aion has about the same graphics...maybe even better...and its 100 times better than this...

i know it's kinda dissapointed to see the battle

but i will have to wait until the release to further comment about FFXIV

although honestly speaking, i have 95% interest in FFXIV when they announced it

but after they release the video, it's now 40%
 

I wont past judgement over the game just because the player who is supposed to demo it cant, It just shows this game isnt the same old rehash game play we get from most mmo's

Can I ask what is supposedly "so new" about the way this game plays that made it hard for the player to learn during combat?

You move, and click buttons to do attacks. Clicking doesn't take time to get used to.

That's REALLY basic, like any game.

If this is any way at all a resemblance of the tempo (which OBVIOUSLY a lot of people had problems with an alpha or they wouldn't have made it faster) then this combat is crap.

CRABS AGAIN  OMG  NO JOKE PLZ, I want to CRY what Square Enix is thinking on. please dont release and remake it again plz no more CRABS, Release the game in  2011 without CRABS plz I can wait if delete Crabs

First, not surprised that many peeps here are assuming the combat is bad because the person playing it obviously has no familiarity with it.  Douchebag is the word that fits these kind of people.

Wait until we see someone competent playing before making "this game sucks!" comment.  Plus, we have yet to see an actual, decent group battle.

Lets be honest here.  TERA, Rift etc... and others are being way too flashy, trying to gain popularity, profit from the frenzy, then kill it.  Unlike every other developer out there, SE isn't being over confident and spewing the word "innovation" so much like they are.

To skoreanime:

      The person playing the combat demo was not at fault. Square Enix was not at all ready to present Final Fantasy XIV to the media in E3. When you see TERA, and games like Vindictus they are giving you almost a full game demo of what it is like. Compare to Final Fantasy XIV, they literally had to have a 2 part demo, because they fail to complete the 2 demo in one game. They seperated into character creation screen, afterwards they literally had to exit out of the game and re-enter it to get into the combat side. To say that TERA and etc. was being too flashy is a bit careless.

To Everyone Else:

    The game's combat system is exactly what you guys see in this video, sorry to disappoint. I was in the Square Enix booth as well, but maybe not during the taping of this video. But Final Fantasy fans, don't be disappointed. The members working there even stated to the media that this game is no where finish as you can see. That is why the presentation of this game is so crappy, as well as the lack of responsive combat and such.

It actually looks ok to me, looking past the part where the person playing doesn't know what he's doing. I think we all agree, it would have been better to put someone a little more familiar with the controls up there before the camera was turned on.

If I don't look past that part,  It was like a painful flashback to the first few minutes of the  first time I ever played FFXI. That was a definite WTF moment for me, having played several other MMORPGs where the controls only varied in the details. I didn't know anything about the game, and it had a steep learning curve in that first hour, just figuring it all out. 

It's not the ugliest game I've ever seen.

This looks pretty horrible. Sucks I was really hoping this would be a good game. That combat looks even more boring than wow .. which is pretty hard to imagine.

this has gotta be the dullest game of the decade....combat is shockinly bad. use to play ffin the old days ps1 looks like combat has gone backwards rather than forwards.

I think this is a great indication of how the game will turn out for people who are new to FFXIV. The controls for this game is not at all the same as the typical mmorpg and a lot of people do not understand that at all.  These are really hard controls to get used to and would take about 30 mins to just steadly get used to and maybe a day or two to be well experienced. Even then you might still have some problems with the camera angel. 

So the lot of you talking crap about the person behind the controls need to shut up and try the game for themselves before they say anything. 

Man, I was hoping that guy would die. Wth would they let some unskilled person be the focus of their video?

This wasn't at all about 'complicated controls", once he hit T and popped up the skills, any gamer with one eye could have read the skills or looked at the icon to see what was gonna happen.

Moron didn't even use the TP skill, which was what I was waiting to see.

Note to SE: don't let drunk or noobs play your demos then release footage. Just makes the game look bad.

I hated the interface for FF 11.  Will they have a more traditional control scheme for this release or will it be just like 11?  Dont get me wrong I love games that have depth and complexity but I dont want to have to fight the ui while I play.  Looks very good thought to me but the combat is kinda slow.

looks more like a running demo instead of a combat demo.....not impressed at all.

I have an EU beta key... and honestly the game sucks combat wise, even more so the camera angles get annoying, and the quest activation methods, quest menu, everything is honestly SHIT.. Msg me if you honestly are interested...

I have an EU beta key... and honestly the game sucks combat wise, even more so the camera angles get annoying, and the quest activation methods, quest menu, everything is honestly SHIT.. Msg me if you honestly are interested...

I think the game look fantastic, but man a retard who controls the character in this trailer. Could'nt they have found a guy who actually know how to use WASD? XD