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  Isometrix

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OP  11/23/13 3:39:48 AM#1

Hi guys,

I've been hopping in between MMOs like many. My last attempt was GW2 which I really liked, for a short period of time. Now, I'm not really looking for an MMO anymore and I know FF14 isn't going to hold my attention for long. What I'd like to know is if the story alone is worth a playthrough for you guys.  I need something to pass the time while I'm doing other stuff on my PC, and have read some research, but some say the story is good enough for a numbered final fantasy title, while others say it's terrible.

If you ignore all the endgame stuff which I have no real interest in, would the story warrant a purchase of the game? Additionally, I read dungeons are required for the story. Can you still find a group for these or has everyone leveled out of them; or are they on their 5th character and will insist me to skip every cutscene?

  Gridd

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Joined: 7/09/12
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11/23/13 5:27:35 AM#2
Originally posted by Foomerang

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To OP:

 

The story is alright I guess, but will mean a lot more if you'd played the original FFXIV.

Try it out, you might find you like the game more than you'd think and decide to stick around. Sure there are still a few issues to be worked out, but I really like it, and by the time you reach endgame, the problems that people complain about it will have been fixed.

  Gridd

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11/23/13 5:45:02 AM#3

Saying the story is alright but will mean more if he'd played the original doesn't answer his question?

 

if your sick of "will I like this game" posts why waste your own time posting in one instead of acting like that and being insulting to him

 

PS the game with the story he is talking about was released like less than 2 months ago. How have you been subbed for 6 months?

  Isometrix

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OP  11/23/13 5:46:44 AM#4
Originally posted by Gridd

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To OP:

 

The story is alright I guess, but will mean a lot more if you'd played the original FFXIV.

Try it out, you might find you like the game more than you'd think and decide to stick around. Sure there are still a few issues to be worked out, but I really like it, and by the time you reach endgame, the problems that people complain about it will have been fixed.

 

Thanks for your reply, the only one so far that's useful.

I don't know why this forum is so foul. All I asked is if the story is worth playing through and people seem to engage in a flame war over nothing.

  User Deleted
11/23/13 6:02:00 AM#5


Originally posted by Isometrix
Hi guys,

I've been hopping in between MMOs like many. My last attempt was GW2 which I really liked, for a short period of time. Now, I'm not really looking for an MMO anymore and I know FF14 isn't going to hold my attention for long. What I'd like to know is if the story alone is worth a playthrough for you guys.  I need something to pass the time while I'm doing other stuff on my PC, and have read some research, but some say the story is good enough for a numbered final fantasy title, while others say it's terrible.

If you ignore all the endgame stuff which I have no real interest in, would the story warrant a purchase of the game? Additionally, I read dungeons are required for the story. Can you still find a group for these or has everyone leveled out of them; or are they on their 5th character and will insist me to skip every cutscene?




Originally posted by Isometrix

Originally posted by Gridd Twat.   To OP:   The story is alright I guess, but will mean a lot more if you'd played the original FFXIV. Try it out, you might find you like the game more than you'd think and decide to stick around. Sure there are still a few issues to be worked out, but I really like it, and by the time you reach endgame, the problems that people complain about it will have been fixed.
 

Thanks for your reply, the only one so far that's useful.

I don't know why this forum is so foul. All I asked is if the story is worth playing through and people seem to engage in a flame war over nothing.


Ok I'll indulge you since its late and I have some time to kill.

You want a decent answer, I'll need to know a few things.

Why didnt you like GW2?

Why are you interested in playing an mmo if you're really not looking for an mmo anymore?

How do you know FFXIV isnt going to hold your attention for long?

If you want to play a game for the story, why choose an mmo and not a single player game? After all, this game is 30 bucks while other great single player games are going on sale for black Friday for a fraction of the cost.

You seem like you are open to suggestion. From the little bit of info you have given, may I suggest you not play an mmo and in fact play a story driven single player game for a fraction of the cost, does not require a group (which you are worried about), and you can complete in a short amount of time (which is important to you).

Thanks.

  Isometrix

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OP  11/23/13 6:10:07 AM#6

 

 

Ok I'll indulge you since its late and I have some time to kill.

You want a decent answer, I'll need to know a few things.

Why didnt you like GW2?

Why are you interested in playing an mmo if you're really not looking for an mmo anymore?

How do you know FFXIV isnt going to hold your attention for long?

If you want to play a game for the story, why choose an mmo and not a single player game? After all, this game is 30 bucks while other great single player games are going on sale for black Friday for a fraction of the cost.

You seem like you are open to suggestion. From the little bit of info you have given, may I suggest you not play an mmo and in fact play a story driven single player game for a fraction of the cost, does not require a group (which you are worried about), and you can complete in a short amount of time (which is important to you).

Thanks.

 

 

I liked GW2 but it did the same thing other MMOs did; burn me out lategame. The dungeons were a grindfest for gear, the public quests were not nearly as epic as they were propped up to be and little more than repetitive killquests. I had my hopes set on GW2 and when it let me down, I gave up on MMOs alltogether.

Ive played a lot of single player games but they lack interaction, social aspects. Additionally, an MMO allows me to do other stuff, like browse, watch series, play simple games, while I'm out in the world doing the always present busy-work. I'm just setting myself up for quitting at endgame because I've done so the last 7 or 8 MMOs and since this one doesn't do that much different, I know I won't continue it for that long, I'm not interested in doing dungeons 20 times for armor anymore.

I'm just looking for something with a persistent world, social interaction that I can still enjoy myself by following a story that's actually worth playing through. GW2 tried this with the personal story but it was a really badly written one. SWTOR tried it but the story got stuck in one of most boring MMOs I'd ever played.

That's why I asked. I like playing an MMO even if I don't necessarily want to play them anymore. I'm not against grouping, but I am against waiting 60 minutes to form a group and then have everyone else rage when you watch the cutscene, which is what happened in SWTOR, that's why I added the grouping question. If they force dungeons during the storyline, and youre forced to speedrun them robbing you of necessary cutscenes, thats no fun to me.

 

 

I avoided posting this in the opening topic to avoid the TLDR responses. 

  User Deleted
11/23/13 6:34:31 AM#7

Thanks for the tldr version.

The storyline is ok. It carries you through all the zones and dungeons and unlocks most of the game's other content. Create a tanking class and the dungeon queues will be short. The cutscenes are mostly short and most people will think you just have a slow computer if you take the time to watch them.

This is a persistent world mmo with a diverse economy and interesting crafting/gathering classes and mechanics. If you want to ignore all that and cruise through the story by all means go for it.

If you want my opinion on whether its worth 30 dollars to play the storyline. Nope. The game shines when you are done with that aspect and can be part of a bustling economy. This game tends to cater to crafting, gathering, and raiding. Guild housing coming dec 17th. If you play it exclusively for the story, you're probably gonna end up being here in a month proclaiming how this game is not worth it just like the rest.

So i guess in retrospect. Do us all a favor including yourself and play something else. It will serve you much better and spare you the flames from the folks who play this for its strengths.

Thank you.

  makasouleater69

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11/23/13 6:36:53 AM#8
Originally posted by Isometrix

 

 

Ok I'll indulge you since its late and I have some time to kill.

You want a decent answer, I'll need to know a few things.

Why didnt you like GW2?

Why are you interested in playing an mmo if you're really not looking for an mmo anymore?

How do you know FFXIV isnt going to hold your attention for long?

If you want to play a game for the story, why choose an mmo and not a single player game? After all, this game is 30 bucks while other great single player games are going on sale for black Friday for a fraction of the cost.

You seem like you are open to suggestion. From the little bit of info you have given, may I suggest you not play an mmo and in fact play a story driven single player game for a fraction of the cost, does not require a group (which you are worried about), and you can complete in a short amount of time (which is important to you).

Thanks.

 

 

I liked GW2 but it did the same thing other MMOs did; burn me out lategame. The dungeons were a grindfest for gear, the public quests were not nearly as epic as they were propped up to be and little more than repetitive killquests. I had my hopes set on GW2 and when it let me down, I gave up on MMOs alltogether.

Ive played a lot of single player games but they lack interaction, social aspects. Additionally, an MMO allows me to do other stuff, like browse, watch series, play simple games, while I'm out in the world doing the always present busy-work. I'm just setting myself up for quitting at endgame because I've done so the last 7 or 8 MMOs and since this one doesn't do that much different, I know I won't continue it for that long, I'm not interested in doing dungeons 20 times for armor anymore.

I'm just looking for something with a persistent world, social interaction that I can still enjoy myself by following a story that's actually worth playing through. GW2 tried this with the personal story but it was a really badly written one. SWTOR tried it but the story got stuck in one of most boring MMOs I'd ever played.

That's why I asked. I like playing an MMO even if I don't necessarily want to play them anymore. I'm not against grouping, but I am against waiting 60 minutes to form a group and then have everyone else rage when you watch the cutscene, which is what happened in SWTOR, that's why I added the grouping question. If they force dungeons during the storyline, and youre forced to speedrun them robbing you of necessary cutscenes, thats no fun to me.

 

 

I avoided posting this in the opening topic to avoid the TLDR responses. 

   If you thought SWTOR is the most boring MMO you have ever played, then dont waste your money on this. The story is way worse. I suppose if your a fan of Final fantasy you would like it, but that would say that you would like a final fantasy book, that was written terribly. If you want a MMO with a fun story, and quests that arent normal in the mmo world. Buy secret world, that has a really fun story line. Dont expect more then that from it though. 

  Justsomenoob

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11/23/13 6:42:00 AM#9

The story is vaguely passable in an MMO filler kind of way.   Buying the game with the intent of the story carrying the purchase is going to lead to you being very disappointed.

  Isometrix

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OP  11/23/13 6:48:36 AM#10
Alright, thanks all. I will continue my search for something else to play :-)
  Yaevindusk

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11/23/13 7:00:20 AM#11

 

The story itself requires a lot of reading and is very gated in terms of progressing through it.  It's tied into the Duty Finder tool (unless you have a group of friends playing with you) that could take hours for you to even get into the dungeon to be able to get on with the story.

 

Though as a whole I've yet to be proven wrong in saying that those who have fully completed the story say it's at least passable as a good JRPG game.  Those who say otherwise usually haven't finished the whole game and get caught in the above or hate as much reading as the game has, saying there's a large disconnect.  In truth, the game's story doesn't really take and shortcuts in it's story telling and you will be doing everything that you would expect yourself to do whether it be through investigations or other things to figure out what is going on and going to the next step. 

 

Once you beat the game's initial story and look back to remember all the things that happened and put everything together, it is a great experience as a whole.  The game is just really quest / level grindy to get to the interesting points and most don't last the first ten levels due to confusion of not knowing what to do or letting their past bias of how the games they used to play were make judgments as to how this completely different game is (different in that it's a different title that has it's own rulesets).

 

Playing casually it may take a few months to fully get to level 50 and finish all of the storyline quests.  I know people who play a few hours a day and still are at level 35 and level 28 of the story quests.  I'd say it's an improvement over Guild Wars 2 simply because it's what I wanted Guild Wars 2 to be, minus the item grind (which GW2 is quickly becoming anyway).  Though over all is like a marriage of FFXI, Guild Wars 2 and WoW as a whole in terms of how you it plays out.

 

This is a great game for a $29 purchase to be sure.  Though I'm not entirely convinced it's worth paying monthly yet, since the only real end game is out of reach for the majority of players to this date (though the Crystal Tower is supposed to help with closing that gap.  In addition so are the new elite dungeons and primal battles).  It also has a lot of bugs or annoyances it needs to clear up.  It's annoying going back to old dungeons since you aren't able to use the hotbar you're used to at max level.  You have to rearrange everything again since you can only use level appropriate skills as the skills themselves aren't scaled down.  There is also no trading between your characters for some insane reason.  You have to rely on friends to transfer items and money to your alternate characters if you have them.  The class balance is also a joke, but is being worked on for the next patch.  The grind on your second class is basically just fate running until the next patch when they make dungeon running be the best way to level and offer better rewards for going back to improve queue times.

 

It was said that they're adding more storyline and tying up loose ends in the patches, so we'll have to see if they're beefy enough for people who only play for the story to come back and subscribe to play.  The game, the music, and the beautiful scenery and graphics are great in themselves.  The classes are fun once you get past the slower style combat (which isn't really all that slow as you progress and depending on the class).  It's a great game to play to pass time until the next expansion or big update of your main game.  Leveling my chocobo on my alts at the moment.  Kind've a grind, but I like my feathered companions.

 

They took a game that was bad and invested the time and money to completely remake it.  That deserves at least a year of my attention on my money to see where their patches take it.  It's already proven to be profitable for them in the end, getting the company out of the red when they originally anticipated to lose out for the year in terms of profit.  It has a lot of nice little details like character's heads moving to you when you get near them (and chocobos!), the weather effects like blazing heat and thunderstorms (thunder and lightning are amazing!) and many other things such as laying in beds and sitting in chairs that other games ignore.  The housing looks to be really great as well.

When faced with strife or discontent, the true nature of a man is brought forth. It is then when we see the character of the individual. It is then we are able to tell if he is mature enough to grin and bare it, or subject his fellow man to his complaints and woes.

  muppetpilot

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11/23/13 7:06:47 AM#12
Originally posted by Isometrix

Hi guys,

I've been hopping in between MMOs like many. My last attempt was GW2 which I really liked, for a short period of time. Now, I'm not really looking for an MMO anymore and I know FF14 isn't going to hold my attention for long. What I'd like to know is if the story alone is worth a playthrough for you guys.  I need something to pass the time while I'm doing other stuff on my PC, and have read some research, but some say the story is good enough for a numbered final fantasy title, while others say it's terrible.

If you ignore all the endgame stuff which I have no real interest in, would the story warrant a purchase of the game? Additionally, I read dungeons are required for the story. Can you still find a group for these or has everyone leveled out of them; or are they on their 5th character and will insist me to skip every cutscene?

Well if you're going to play FF 14 you're going to have to play through the story, and yes, you are going to be required to do dungeons.  You're also going to be required to do quite a few quests solo, without the option of grouping.

In order to unlock basic aspects of the game like airship travel, dye, class progression, etc., you are indeed going to have to do the main story quests.  I suppose you could run around and grind FATEs and whatnot for some time, but you wouldn't actually be progressing much so at some point you would be basically forced to return to the main storyline.

The group finder apparently works well in and of itself but there are already quite a few reports of 90-minute queues for the lower-level dungeons because there isn't any reason for higher-level players to come back and do the old content.  Not sure how healthy the player base is here in the West; if new players aren't trickling in then the lowbie dungeons could theoretically become a problem to complete, unless you're playing with friends.

  Disdena

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11/23/13 9:48:01 AM#13
Originally posted by Isometrix

Hi guys,

I've been hopping in between MMOs like many. My last attempt was GW2 which I really liked, for a short period of time. Now, I'm not really looking for an MMO anymore and I know FF14 isn't going to hold my attention for long. What I'd like to know is if the story alone is worth a playthrough for you guys.  I need something to pass the time while I'm doing other stuff on my PC, and have read some research, but some say the story is good enough for a numbered final fantasy title, while others say it's terrible.

If you ignore all the endgame stuff which I have no real interest in, would the story warrant a purchase of the game? Additionally, I read dungeons are required for the story. Can you still find a group for these or has everyone leveled out of them; or are they on their 5th character and will insist me to skip every cutscene?

I'm really enjoying the dramatic parts of the story, but unfortunately many of the "transition" parts are uninteresting and add nothing to the story. There are multiple times when you end up in a long series of "prove your worth to us before we will agree to help you, adventurer" quests that drag on for a while. But yes, I would say that if you enjoyed the other FF series' for their stories, you will also enjoy this one. Some of the cutscenes and plot twists put me right back in the FF mood, and I've gone back to rewatch many of them. As long as you're not completely burnt out on MMOs to the point where running around killing 5 rats will be painful, you can buy this game and have a great time playing through it for the story.

The English voice acting isn't very good. You can switch it to Japanese if you're into that.

A lot of the writing is top-notch, even in the descriptions of filler quests that few people even read. The localization team really outdid themselves. On the one hand you have a lot of Eorzean slang ("yalm" and "malm" for yard and mile, "bell" for hour, references to their pantheon) to make the speech sound like it comes from a real world with history, and on the other hand they still sneak in a lot of puns and references to other games, movies, and geek culture.

Dungeons are required for the story but there is a cross-server dungeon finder. If you play as a tank class or make a friend who can play as a tank, you'll get in in under a minute every time. Even someone who is too high level for the dungeon can level sync to run it again as an appropriate level.

You definitely will not encounter people asking you to skip dungeon cutscenes on the trek to the level cap. I've never seen it happen even once. It might happen in some of the final dungeons that people speedrun for endgame tokens, but most people doing that will put a group together rather than using the queue and risk getting someone who is new. Since you can switch between classes on the same character, people who are leveling a new job will not have to play through the story again and will probably choose not to do dungeons if they're the impatient type (since there are some faster ways to gain experience). So any dungeon party you get thrown into should be either new or open to guiding new players.

  monochrome19

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11/23/13 10:13:10 AM#14
I generally dislike every MMO story but I found the storyline in FFXIV to be very well done and enjoyable. At some points it gets a bit repetitive, but eh. Otber than that it was solid.
  page975

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11/23/13 1:25:51 PM#15

When I was still in the romance stage of the game ( first two weeks ). I liked the story, I did not mind reading it, it was no big deal to read everything as the npc's just stand their.  But after about three weeks the entire game started to take a nose dive in my eyes.

I found myself skipping the story and not reading it. I just got tired of reading an ENTIRE BOOK !....I'll be honest I don't think I could ever go back to FF14 no matter how much content they give.

 

I'm bouncing too and from Vanella WoW and Guildwars 2.....Both are much better and free untill another real mmo gets released.  I'll pay top dollar for a real mmo, all we need is someone to make one !!!!

 

  drivendawn

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11/23/13 2:59:46 PM#16
To me the story was pretty damn good a little slow to start but much deeper and better written than most MMO's.
  Setzer

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Posts: 130

11/25/13 11:32:18 AM#17

Just hit 50 this weekend and completed the main storyline.  I thought for an FF game it was a pretty good story....not one of the most memorable but I enjoyed it.  So, if you're a fan of the Final Fantasy games then I would say its definitely worth playing through.  SE knows how to do cinematics and they do them very well....my only gripe is they didn't use voice acting in all the cut scenes.  You'll go through 3-4 of them with no voices, just reading text, then you get one with voice.  It was kinda annoying. Maybe it was a budget thing, who knows.  Also, you will have join a raid group for the last 3 encounters to finish the story....can't be finished solo.  In fact, there's quite a bit you'll have to group(small 4 man party) up for in order to advance the storyline.  That wasn't an issue for me but it may be for some.

  simsalabim77

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11/26/13 5:29:24 PM#18

No. 

If you buy the game solely for the storyline, you're going to be disappointed. The storyline itself is alright, but the presentation is unbearable IMO. Watching a bunch of NPC's flap their mouth in the most unrealistic manner possible while reading quest text just doesn't do it for me after playing a game like SWTOR. The English voice acting (what little you get) sounds like they rounded up some developers from the office.

Some scenes literally made me shake my head because they were so bad. Here's an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LgG-SgOXhE

It's just awful lol. My expectations were probably far too high for the storyline in this game, but can you really blame me when it's a game coming from SE? 

Also, the storyline is padded with very mundane quests like, "Go hand out pretzels to some guards." Real heroic stuff. 

 

  strangepowers

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11/28/13 9:55:17 AM#19

Personally I found it boring and tedious.

I love the FF franchise and have been playing FF all my life starting with FF3 on the SNES.

Yet for some reason the story just petered out for me, I was disappointed in the fact that it did not hold my interest. It's just rote storytelling, if you have played games or read books for years you've heard it before...

The scary part is one day the world will be run by adults who were never spanked as kids and got trophies just for participating.

  Bluewhitehell

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12/01/13 11:43:41 AM#20
Originally posted by Isometrix

Hi guys,

I've been hopping in between MMOs like many. My last attempt was GW2 which I really liked, for a short period of time. Now, I'm not really looking for an MMO anymore and I know FF14 isn't going to hold my attention for long. What I'd like to know is if the story alone is worth a playthrough for you guys.  I need something to pass the time while I'm doing other stuff on my PC, and have read some research, but some say the story is good enough for a numbered final fantasy title, while others say it's terrible.

If you ignore all the endgame stuff which I have no real interest in, would the story warrant a purchase of the game? Additionally, I read dungeons are required for the story. Can you still find a group for these or has everyone leveled out of them; or are they on their 5th character and will insist me to skip every cutscene?

 

The story is worse than many single player FF title, and worse than FFXI. Most of the characters are pretty shallow, good guys are awesome and bad guys are your classic bad guys, there is a twist but in turned out to be a twist that's not very meaningful, unlike FFXI. The story seems good because 95% of titles have terrible story so players have low expectation.

 

 

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