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Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Forum » General Discussion » Finally, a game to obsess about...

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  Leiros

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"mmorpg.com forums: Where SWG vets go to die."

 
OP  7/26/13 12:54:39 PM#1

As a long time MMO player, it's been a while since I've found a game that I catch myself thinking about during the day or while I'm at work. After playing through Phase 3 of the FFXIV:ARR Beta I can't stop thinking about this game. It's quite refreshing to get that old school feeling of "I can't wait to play it again." I was just wondering, has anyone else had this feeling about this game? Perhaps catching yourself thinking about what type of character you're going to make when Phase 4 or the head start begin?

 

I've got to give credit to the devs. This game is so much better than the original FFXIV. I can't wait until I am able to spend my time in Eorzea without dreading a character wipe.

  NagelRitter

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Joined: 7/18/13
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7/26/13 12:59:55 PM#2

Well, I haven't gotten to play the game yet, but I am pretty hyped up at this point.

And I seriously have no clue who I want to make. -_- It's really going to depend on the character creator, I guess...

Favorite MMO: Vanilla WoW
Currently playing: GW2, EVE
Excited for: Wildstar, maybe?

  WellzyC

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Ceaseless

7/26/13 1:26:51 PM#3

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, Linear Questing, Cut-Scenes...


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  Brialyn

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Posts: 184

7/26/13 1:27:51 PM#4
I can't wait to play this game again! I think about it all the time and my friends and I are dying to get back in :D 



Currently Playing: FFXIV:ARR
Looking Forward to: Wildstar

  BadSpock

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Logic be damned!

7/26/13 1:39:11 PM#5
Originally posted by WellzyC

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

I think this statement speaks more truth than many similar attempts at rationalization I have seen on these forums.

FFXIV feels old school, but it also feels modern, it certainly looks modern, and it has some ideas and systems that would have been standards years back that make you think "why did we ever move away from this?"

 

Now Playing:
Looking Towards: Destiny

  toddze

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I am not a hater, I call it like I see it.

7/26/13 1:42:15 PM#6
Let me know how you feel after 90 days, The shinny new toy feeling is deceptive. Even for the vets.

Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI

  Sephiroso

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7/26/13 1:42:49 PM#7
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

FFXIV isn't oldschool in the slightest. It's a modern albeit very polished modern mmo. Not oldschool at all.

 

You need only ask yourself 1 question to see if its oldschool. Can you level to cap within a week or two? There's your answer.


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  Battlerock

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7/26/13 1:45:12 PM#8
Got my beta 4 key today ( jumps up and clicks heals together) I have not had a chance at the controls prior to this beta as well, watched alot of video, but now I finally get my crack at it.
  etlar

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7/26/13 1:57:47 PM#9

Im fussing too! :)  reading every post here, even just rants and speculation, as long as its ff14 lol. I found the game

very enjoyable, and whether or not its old school, it certainly has that feel (IMO)  aug 8-9 seems far away, and i really hope that in the letter the 8th he will say: go download and play from the 9th :)

  drivendawn

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7/26/13 2:32:38 PM#10
Originally posted by toddze
Let me know how you feel after 90 days, The shinny new toy feeling is deceptive. Even for the vets.

Well I doubt I'll be able to because the first big patch will be up at that point with more company missions more raids more primals so I will be to busy.

  Rupskul

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7/26/13 3:16:54 PM#11
Originally posted by Sephiroso
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

FFXIV isn't oldschool in the slightest. It's a modern albeit very polished modern mmo. Not oldschool at all.

 

You need only ask yourself 1 question to see if its oldschool. Can you level to cap within a week or two? There's your answer.

I don't disagree with your comment about it being old school.  It's not and really "old school" is proably dead forever.  However, I do disagree with your comment about capping in a couple weeks.  Although technically true, you'd end up useless.  Just like getting a job in FFXI to 50 without a subjob would have been useless - actually you would have never gotten a party in FFXI after level 15 without a subjob ...

I posted this in a different thread, but this is why I disagree with you.

 

One thing I'll add about leveling up - you didnt' ask, but I think it's extremely imporant. You could probably level to 50 in a few weeks if you focused on one class and one class only. People will do it, but they will end up gimped and they will not be able to do the hard mode dungeons or bosses.

Just like FFXI had subjobs - and you had to have a subjob to be useful at all - in XIV, you can utilize skills from other classes. As a Pugilist, you can use skills from Lancer, Conjurer, etc. This will basically act as your subjob, but much more flexible. When you get into "Jobs" - the FFXIV equivilent to advanced jobs from XI - you have to have at least one other class advanced as well. So to be a Bard, you need Archer to 30 and Conjurer to 15 to do the Bard quest. Once you are a Bard, you have access to all archer skills, and a few Conjurer (ie, cure, protect, raise) and a few Lancer (the Slow skill and a couple more) automatically. Plus, you will be still able to choose more skills from any other job.

So leveling one class to 50 will be almost meaningless - maybe not as much as in FFXI, but pretty close. Pretty much all the non-casting DPS classes will need to level up all the classes. All the casters will level up all caster jobs. Hell, I'll level Conjuere for cure and Pugilist for Second Wind, no matter what my job - just to have it for solo fights.

So there will be those that go berserk to get to 50 first, but they'll not really have much when they get there. They'll still have to go back. That's good stuff and one of the only games that creates that kind of dynamic.

  User Deleted
7/26/13 3:24:17 PM#12
Originally posted by Sephiroso
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

FFXIV isn't oldschool in the slightest. It's a modern albeit very polished modern mmo. Not oldschool at all.

 

You need only ask yourself 1 question to see if its oldschool. Can you level to cap within a week or two? There's your answer.

you dont just level one class

  Xthos

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7/26/13 3:27:50 PM#13

When they have the open beta, I will check it out with my wife.  I have not looked into it too much, my main hopes are that I will like what I hear from EQNext (which I am ready to hear bad news, or good).

 

 

  Shana77

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7/26/13 3:31:40 PM#14
Originally posted by Sephiroso
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

FFXIV isn't oldschool in the slightest. It's a modern albeit very polished modern mmo. Not oldschool at all.

 

You need only ask yourself 1 question to see if its oldschool. Can you level to cap within a week or two? There's your answer.

Muds are old school. Modernization started when 3d graphics where being used.

 

Obviously there are different concepts of oldschool. There are different times and Era's. To me the Madonna, George Michael, Prince and Micheal Jackson era is old school. To my dad it's the Beatles and to my Granddad it's Frank Sinatra.  

Regardless of what you consider oldschool, the last few years we have seen a sudden shift on many areas in game design, like a move towards dynamic combat systems, dynamic quest systems and a rethinking of raids, dungeons and the traditional trinity dungeon models. Those games are what we now consider "modern", Final Fantasy seems to be going against that trend (largely because the game is actually not a new game but rather a remake from that older era). 

Fast levelling is a concept that supersedes the era of modern MMO's. Its a condept that is now easily 8 years old, introduced with Guild Wars, EQ2 and Warcraft, back in 2005. That's 8 years ago, perhaps not a long time in the lifetime of my granddad, but an Eon in the history of the MMO. 

So yeah I'd say Final Fantasy 14 feels old school. Though obviously not as old school as MUDS, or playing Pac Man in an Arcade.  

  Rupskul

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7/26/13 3:31:58 PM#15
Originally posted by Xthos

When they have the open beta, I will check it out with my wife.  I have not looked into it too much, my main hopes are that I will like what I hear from EQNext (which I am ready to hear bad news, or good).

 

 

I think it's going to be a long while before EQN is launched.  Unless they've been developing this game for years in complete secret - almost impossible these days - they are nowhere near ready to launch a brand new game.

  SpottyGekko

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7/26/13 3:36:37 PM#16

I played a SWTOR beta weekend and quit after the first hour and a half, and uninstalled. That was on Saturday morning.

I played FFXIV:ARR beta 3 and was horrified when the weekend ended so soon.

Beta 4 can't come soon enough :)

  Shana77

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7/26/13 3:43:55 PM#17
Originally posted by Rupskul
Originally posted by Xthos

When they have the open beta, I will check it out with my wife.  I have not looked into it too much, my main hopes are that I will like what I hear from EQNext (which I am ready to hear bad news, or good).

 

 

I think it's going to be a long while before EQN is launched.  Unless they've been developing this game for years in complete secret - almost impossible these days - they are nowhere near ready to launch a brand new game.

Actually, that is exactly what people including SOE themselves are claiming about EQNext, that is has been developed for years in secret (the so-called black box). There are some hints that this may actually happen:

 

SOE's sudden reveal of Planetside 2. The game which runs on the same engine as EQNext was fully revealed at the end of march and saw its beta start 4 months later. We are used to games launching years after their reveal but SOE followed a very different strategy with PS2 and it seems they are doing the same with EQNext. 

Furthermore SOE Smedley indicated that players would be playing a version of EQNext before the end of the year and that he "doesn't mean beta". This little hint is what has much of the EQNext community speculating that the game is already nearly done. 

We will know more next week when the big reveal for EQNext is on. 

  Raxeon

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7/26/13 3:50:40 PM#18
Originally posted by Sephiroso
Originally posted by WellzyC

 

An old school mmo with a current gen engine is what I have been begging for 'fer the last few years, I am very excited to sink my teeth into this game.

FFXIV isn't oldschool in the slightest. It's a modern albeit very polished modern mmo. Not oldschool at all.

 

You need only ask yourself 1 question to see if its oldschool. Can you level to cap within a week or two? There's your answer.

wait until you run out of quest and get to end game

  tommygunzII

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7/26/13 10:10:43 PM#19

I can't recall a game I've wanted to play so badly. GTAV looks awesome but all I think about is FFXIV. While playing the beta it would put me in a trance like the old Power Rangers used to 

  reploidx

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Joined: 10/15/05
Posts: 318

7/26/13 10:14:26 PM#20
I'm actually excited about this as well. I haven't been excited for an MMO in a LONG time (since EQ1 came out)
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