I don't mind missing rumble features and the pad being broken was my first guess.

The thing is it works flawless on other games. Only on ff14 it keeps messing up.

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Grakulen

it requires the player to adapt to how FFXIV does things (both in systems and pace). Most are not willing or able to adapt, we know this. It is not suprising that they were turned off this game. I get it.

 

Saying that, after I made a small mental switch, stopped expecting it to be EQ2 or whatever 

 

This is a shame and big reason that MMO's today cannot be anything more than "WoW Clones."

I'm glad to see you take an interest in FFXIV.  That being said I'm once bitten by that game.  I doubt I'll give it another chance.

 

Even if they give free play time for you to have a look?

Seems somehow unfair to remark on the state of the market like you have here if you're not willing to be a little flexible towards it. We will only get different games by supporting those that are different... :/

Not having a go, just saying.

If they gave me free to play time I would give it another look.

I paid for a CE knowning this game was different from the pack.  I donated once to show my support, a second donation would be ______ (pick your own word for not smart).  I agree with trying new things but they still have to make a good game.  

Tried it out during the welcome back campiegn. They fixed soo many bugs, and its very playable now. Dare I say, even enjoyed a little bit of it. That being said, I don't like the layout of the game, and the gameplay itself is the same, albit bug free now. I'm just glad the game will continue on and maybe even get launched on PS3. My hats off to Square for not giving up, and as someone that plumped down the 80 dollars on the CE I am less upset than I was. Anyhow, I'll wait for 2.0 and see what happens, they've done what they said they do, and made it playable. Now, all they need to do is revamp the game into something I want to play. Only time will tell...

Originally posted by NIII

Originally posted by Naqaj

Originally posted by NIII

Originally posted by Dakeru

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...SE ruins the experience with stupid decisions.

That's exactly what I'm talking about.

They can make a good game, that's for sure, but it's almost as if they can't make up their mind with what they want to focus on, and instead we just get seemingly random, un-needed changes.

I think it would have been better if they just focused on content after launch, and didn't do this whole revamp thing.

Yep, that is the main issue. I keep coming back to it, since I really want to like it. Ultimately though, it's just not working properly at the core. The base of the game has some real issues where different game systems and mechanics just don't fit together, but work against each other instead. Instead of redesigning that underlying framework, they just keep piling new systems on top of it. When all is said and done, the game world is very promising and inviting, but the game design is ... old. And not old in a good way, but stale, outdated.

And the screenshots of 2.0 don't make me very enthusiastic. The style is very much XIII, not a good role model at all, and style is not what the game is lacking in the first place.

I for one love XIII, but I also enjoyed XIV as it was. If the game turned into XIII-online, I wouldn't not enjoy it, but that's not what this game is. XIII has a more tech feel, this game has more of a fantasy feel. I would rather it keep what it has.

XIII is the worst final fantasy to date in my opinion..so linear, hated it

Originally posted by Dakeru

I don't mind missing rumble features and the pad being broken was my first guess.

The thing is it works flawless on other games. Only on ff14 it keeps messing up.

Yeah, that sounds frustrating. I can't play these games without a controller. :P Like I said try getting the driver for the controller downloaded. That might help. Also, you can try hitting the rumble button on the controller to turn it off. I had a problem with the rumble disconnecting the controller at one point, so that would keep it from doing that.

Hopefully, with 2.0, these things won't be hit or miss. Maybe we'll even be able to *gasp* change settings in game!

Originally posted by Grakulen

Originally posted by Vesavius

Originally posted by Grakulen

it requires the player to adapt to how FFXIV does things (both in systems and pace). Most are not willing or able to adapt, we know this. It is not suprising that they were turned off this game. I get it.

 

Saying that, after I made a small mental switch, stopped expecting it to be EQ2 or whatever 

 

This is a shame and big reason that MMO's today cannot be anything more than "WoW Clones."

I'm glad to see you take an interest in FFXIV.  That being said I'm once bitten by that game.  I doubt I'll give it another chance.

 

Even if they give free play time for you to have a look?

Seems somehow unfair to remark on the state of the market like you have here if you're not willing to be a little flexible towards it. We will only get different games by supporting those that are different... :/

Not having a go, just saying.

If they gave me free to play time I would give it another look.

I paid for a CE knowning this game was different from the pack.  I donated once to show my support, a second donation would be ______ (pick your own word for not smart).  I agree with trying new things but they still have to make a good game.  

oh yeah, for sure :)

I installed the game again for the 10 days free time (still using it atm) and I have to say I like the changes they have made so far, I have my goal in mind (get my Dragoon!!) and am seriously debating swapping my SWTOR sub back to this for at least 90 days just to get the Legacy offer for the game (played the Bate and launch)

Only issue I had then and still have now, is trying to find someone to play with as bashing along as a solo is a bit tiresome

Originally posted by Satimasu

Originally posted by Dakeru

I don't mind missing rumble features and the pad being broken was my first guess.

The thing is it works flawless on other games. Only on ff14 it keeps messing up.

 

Yeah, that sounds frustrating. I can't play these games without a controller. :P

I was the opposite... I don't mind controllers, I have a 360, but I plugged it in to this game and couldn't get in to the groove of it at all.

Maybe I will try again.

Originally posted by Istavaan

XIII is the worst final fantasy to date in my opinion..so linear, hated it

not to derail too much, but I do agree, which is a shame because I loved the characters and general design a lot.

I haven't tried XIII-2 yet... I will one day.

Originally posted by Satimasu

 

Yeah, that sounds frustrating. I can't play these games without a controller. :P Like I said try getting the driver for the controller downloaded. That might help. Also, you can try hitting the rumble button on the controller to turn it off. I had a problem with the rumble disconnecting the controller at one point, so that would keep it from doing that.

Hopefully, with 2.0, these things won't be hit or miss. Maybe we'll even be able to *gasp* change settings in game!

First thing I did when I bought the pad 10 months ago was downloading the driver. Rumble feature is off at 80% of my playing time simply cause I keep forgetting to activate it.

It just plain bugs me that FF14 is not even optimized for its very own official joypad.

Leaving my problem with their company politics aside my 4 main criticisms are:

-joypad is bugging out all the time

-company leves are solo missions and extremely boring because you have to stand around waiting for the 15 mins to run out

-melee classes seem more powerful than mages*

-chocobo caravan missions will not scale down when only 1 player joins **

*while doing the third quest of "infiltrate the enemy base; click 3 points; earn 700 seals" I noticed a lancer who could kill any mob around without breaks in between - I had to rest for mp after every kill or 2 depending on how well the mobs resisted

(and yes i used the new mp restoration skills and ethers)

**I tried the one for level 25 on my 49 thauma and thought it would be no problem with my aoe spells. I barely only finished the mission with about 10 seconds left and received a reward of 27 seals. Now I know why no one joins those missions.

PS: While I said that about the 3 similar quests with some sarcasm I had fun doing them. It took some skill to to mob control with sleep and lure enemies one by one. It just sucks when you see a lancer storming into the room and fighting several mobs at the same time without any risk for her.

Originally posted by Dakeru

Originally posted by Satimasu

 

Yeah, that sounds frustrating. I can't play these games without a controller. :P Like I said try getting the driver for the controller downloaded. That might help. Also, you can try hitting the rumble button on the controller to turn it off. I had a problem with the rumble disconnecting the controller at one point, so that would keep it from doing that.

Hopefully, with 2.0, these things won't be hit or miss. Maybe we'll even be able to *gasp* change settings in game!

First thing I did when I bought the pad 10 months ago was downloading the driver. Rumble feature is off at 80% of my playing time simply cause I keep forgetting to activate it.

It just plain bugs me that FF14 is not even optimized for its very own official joypad.

 

Leaving my problem with their company politics aside my 4 main criticisms are:

 

-joypad is bugging out all the time

-company leves are solo missions and extremely boring because you have to stand around waiting for the 15 mins to run out

-melee classes seem more powerful than mages*

-chocobo caravan missions will not scale down when only 1 player joins **

 

*while doing the third quest of "infiltrate the enemy base; click 3 points; earn 700 seals" I noticed a lancer who could kill any mob around without breaks in between - I had to rest for mp after every kill or 2 depending on how well the mobs resisted

(and yes i used the new mp restoration skills and ethers)

 

**I tried the one for level 25 on my 49 thauma and thought it would be no problem with my aoe spells. I barely only finished the mission with about 10 seconds left and received a reward of 27 seals. Now I know why no one joins those missions.

 

PS: While I said that about the 3 similar quests with some sarcasm I had fun doing them. It took some skill to to mob control with sleep and lure enemies one by one. It just sucks when you see a lancer storming into the room and fighting several mobs at the same time without any risk for her.

I would not say that melee classes are more powerful than mages at all.

When I solo or farm I prefer to play BLM as it is the fastest. 

If you are getting resists perhaps you need more magic accuracy, the cheapest and easiest way is to just get a coral ring or two (but this will bring down  your INT, the main stat determining overall spell damage, which is why a mage's choker paired with an electrum scepter is the choice for most).

For MP yes mages do struggle more solo as you are not regaining MP as fast while being hit, so you want to conserve your casts and limit your time in combat/moving.  Place yourself where you can target multiple enemies (or groups) then if need be use resonance to pull them towards you.  Use Sanguine Rite once they reach you (don't use it right after dark seal or you will waste dark seal on it).

As for the company guildleves the 15 minutes ones are pretty much a waste of time, there are others which require you to hunt specific mobs which are much faster.  The fastest way to get GC seals is to farm totorak/darkhold/NM's and then turn the drops into the GC.  DoL/DoH can also do supply missions.  Solo DoW/DoM players are at a disadvantage, and I'd recommend farming NM's if you don't have a friend to do totorak with.

My wife and I want to sub to get the deal, when 2.0 comes out. We actually enjoy it, but she keeps crashing with a directx error. We ve done everything that we ve found online to fix it, but she keeps crashing. Can t really justify paying a sub, if she can play 10-20 mins at a time.

Originally posted by Leucent

My wife and I want to sub to get the deal, when 2.0 comes out. We actually enjoy it, but she keeps crashing with a directx error. We ve done everything that we ve found online to fix it, but she keeps crashing. Can t really justify paying a sub, if she can play 10-20 mins at a time.

Alt-tabbing out seems to do that for me with 100% certainty, no checking skype or programs in the background while in fullscreen. Otherwise, I tend to get kicked in the middle of a leve with some kind of "server busy error 00xxxx07" type thing, but it just means i have to stare at the character screen for 20-30 seconds and log back in (and retry the leve...).

Originally posted by Leucent

My wife and I want to sub to get the deal, when 2.0 comes out. We actually enjoy it, but she keeps crashing with a directx error. We ve done everything that we ve found online to fix it, but she keeps crashing. Can t really justify paying a sub, if she can play 10-20 mins at a time.

That could be another program on your computer forcing you to exit full screen.  You could try playing in windowed mode and see if that fixes it (or windowed fullscreen where you use a program like autohotkey and follow these instructions).

Originally posted by NIII

 

I'm kind of scared, that it is changing into WoW2, which is what I assume everyone subconsciously expected.

 I kind of expected Final Fantasy, but with MMO. This was not Final Fantasy... not sure what I would call it, but it definitely wasn't FF. I would say mystic quest was more FF than this, and I barely consider that part of the franchise.

The immersion was definitely there, and the cutscenes, the story, the graphics, the sound. I even liked the combat. It had the true feel of a Final Fantasy world, something that was refreshing. It was a good change for the better, until they decided it was horrible for whatever reason.

 

The graphics and the world, and even the cut scenes, are not enough to capture the feel of that awesome series. It would be more fair to say that it has the true feel of a JRPG, but one which had a really rudimentary game attached to it.

 

I'm glad you picked it up and gave it a try, if only more would do as such.

 

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It bugs me pretty bad that this game is so looked down on.

You have no idea how much I wanted to love this game, until I actually played it.

As I understand it still has not improved?

I wanted to come back... :(

Holy crap I just grabbed the game off Amazon for $8 and cause I was bored....

(Still downloading the client right now)

But went to the SquareEnix site to register my code.

WTF this is a PITA...

So I'm pretty sure I tied the code to my account and even brought in my beta stuff. But I have no clue if my account is active or what. They really need to get this site straightened out and make it more user friendly..

Originally posted by Vesavius

I know, I know... heresy to most right? I am sure others will tell me that anyhow. But...

 

Bought FFXIV for a fiver from Amazon because, y'know, why not, and have to say I am actually suprised.

 

FFXIV is a charming immersive game that once you become friends with can very much draw you in. I can easily see me playing this for a while.

 

Saying that, I do get why others have been put off... it has issues, even now, that are NOT newbie friendly. It requires learning, note taking, and, above all, it requires the player to adapt to how FFXIV does things (both in systems and pace). Most are not willing or able to adapt, we know this. It is not suprising that they were turned off this game. I get it.

 

Saying that, after I made a small mental switch, stopped expecting it to be EQ2 or whatever and started accepting it for what the game is (and not demanding it be what I say it should be) it started to grow on me...

 

I am not saying it's enough to put me off GW2 or anything, but... yeah, FFXIV. I kinda like you. Give it time and who knows? :)

 

(Just thought I would share, no real point to make)

 

BTW, any server suggestions for me? Me and the GF are playing on Excalibur right now. Good choice?

 

 My fiance and I tried the welcome back campaign, and we love the game. We ended up re-subbing, and we're on Excalibur too. It seems pretty nice so far there

I read a thread on this site talking about the welcome back campaign so I decided to giving it a try.  (even though I practically swore a blood oath I wouldn't try FFXIV until 2.0, lol)  I have to say I was surprised at how far it's come.  I'd say it's almost where it should have been at release. 

I'm still pissed that there's no mailbox or auction house.  Yes, they're still trying to push the market wards but it's stupid imo.  As immersive as the game setting is it doesn't seem likely that 100's of people would stand in a basement 24/7 waiting to sell me things.  I wish they'd just implement a damned AH.  key word: optimize

Aside from that, a lot of my gripes have been addressed.  They smoothed out leves, added a lot more quests, balanced xp gain and added chains ala FFXI.  I like the repair guys/venders at many camps.  The new armors look friggen amazing (I saw a lalafel chick in full monk armor and sat and stared at her on my screen for like 5 mins)  Now the avatars are being implemented one at a time, coughSMNcoughs. 

I dunno, for the first time in FFXIV I have that feeling I had waayyyyy back when I first started playing FFXI.  I spend my time keeping to myself and running around to take it all in.  I group here and there and the community has been pretty cool thus far.   I hope I get my character set up in a good way for the rerelease with 2.0.  I agree this game isn't for everyone but if you liked FFXI I'd sub for a month and check it out.

Originally posted by ghostinfinit  *SNIP* I agree this game isn't for everyone but if you liked FFXI I'd sub for a month and check it out.

Aye, a month is about all I can handle at a time. My biggest gripe with the game is that it feels like FFXI's predecessor and not its successor. The armoury and combat systems leave a lot to be desired. FFXI's job and combat system is(was) so much more interesting and diverse, that I find it hard to play this game for any significant length of time. Something else that kills its appeal is the world design. I know that SE recognizes the world design issues and is completely redesigning the world, but I'm afraid that the vanilla job/combat system that's currently in place will hinder 2.0's success. Maybe SE is considering revamping those systems, I don't know.

In any case, I'm curious to see what 2.0 will bring.

Don't let my seemingly negative comments dissuade you from trying/retrying the game. It has come quite a ways from its launch; I just happen to be at the end of one of my one month return stints and am a bit jaded.