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  someforumguy

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7/03/13 9:06:14 PM#81
Originally posted by madazz

You know, I think fallen earth is pretty neat, but I never got the sandbox vibe fully. Some of it was there though. The thing that turned me off was the cash shop. And to be quite honest, I don't even know how bad it is (ie; P2W, cosmetics, what? lol)

 

Anarchy Online has a cash shop you know and in EVE you can even buy ingame currency :p My point is that it has nothing to do with the game being a sandbox.

As for Fallen Earth. Skillbased, no player classes, huge open world. No handholding. Very elaborate crafting system. It basically fits all the OP's requirement, but it is not on the list because the OP doesn't know it and a few said it shouldn't be on it because it has quests (which are not mandatory). You can just as well start lvling through pvp.

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OP  7/04/13 6:35:33 AM#82
Originally posted by Darhamm
No Fallen Earth? I am disappoint.

It has sandbox elements, but its not a Sandbox. Progression is on rails, pvp only in small controlled areas, etc. And I know it, because I played it at beta and for months afterword, and on an off since then. I quit it because it wasn't sandbox enough.

  Silverbarr

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7/04/13 6:38:18 AM#83
Originally posted by mCalvert
Originally posted by Darhamm
No Fallen Earth? I am disappoint.

It has sandbox elements, but its not a Sandbox. Progression is on rails, pvp only in small controlled areas, etc. And I know it, because I played it at beta and for months afterword, and on an off since then. I quit it because it wasn't sandbox enough.

Most of the games in the OP are Open World MMO's and not necessarily Sandbox since most don't have free creation and destruction of world elements available.

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OP  7/05/13 6:31:23 AM#84
Originally posted by Silverbarr
Originally posted by mCalvert
Originally posted by Darhamm
No Fallen Earth? I am disappoint.

It has sandbox elements, but its not a Sandbox. Progression is on rails, pvp only in small controlled areas, etc. And I know it, because I played it at beta and for months afterword, and on an off since then. I quit it because it wasn't sandbox enough.

Most of the games in the OP are Open World MMO's and not necessarily Sandbox since most don't have free creation and destruction of world elements available.

That's a sandbox element, not what defines a sandbox mmorpg.

  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/05/13 6:43:34 AM#85
Originally posted by mCalvert

Again, Im listing sandbox MMORPGs, not just sandboxes. I do not require tools to modify the world. Just the freedom to make youre own entertainment within the general theme.

Then Guild Wars 2 is a sandbox, according to your requirements to be one. You can log in, do whatever you want and progress, even go back to low level areas and progress, "total freedom".

For instance (again...), both AO and AC1, two games I absolutely loved playing, are no sandboxes. Because if you pretend they are sandboxes, then as I said above, GW2 is a sandbox. Hell, we could even stretch it a bit and put WoW in the sandbox category by using that kind of references.

 

Your requirements are flawed, man. This is not a sandbox MMO list, this is a list of MMOs which mCalvert thinks (wishes?) are sandboxes.

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  Lord.Bachus

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7/05/13 7:01:00 AM#86

As allways my question, where does sandbox stop and themepark start?

 

99% of all games are hybrids, vanguard for example feels pretty Sandbox, while UO also has some things from themeparks in it.

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  Jean-Luc_Picard

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7/05/13 7:03:56 AM#87
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

As allways my question, where does sandbox stop and themepark start?

 

99% of all games are hybrids, vanguard for example feels pretty Sandbox, while UO also has some things from themeparks in it.

True that, but then, it raises another very important question...

Is the game a "Sandpark" or " Themebox"?

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OP  7/06/13 7:53:21 AM#88
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Originally posted by mCalvert

Again, Im listing sandbox MMORPGs, not just sandboxes. I do not require tools to modify the world. Just the freedom to make youre own entertainment within the general theme.

Then Guild Wars 2 is a sandbox, according to your requirements to be one. You can log in, do whatever you want and progress, even go back to low level areas and progress, "total freedom".

For instance (again...), both AO and AC1, two games I absolutely loved playing, are no sandboxes. Because if you pretend they are sandboxes, then as I said above, GW2 is a sandbox. Hell, we could even stretch it a bit and put WoW in the sandbox category by using that kind of references.

 

Your requirements are flawed, man. This is not a sandbox MMO list, this is a list of MMOs which mCalvert thinks (wishes?) are sandboxes.

Then buzz off.

  Doogiehowser

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7/06/13 8:00:24 AM#89

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

It seems like you are posting your own MMOS which you 'think' are sandbox instead of opening up a bit and take suggestion from community.

Pointless really if you are just going with 'my way or highway' attitude. This is why this topic as a sticky is bad idea.

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  Antiquated

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7/06/13 8:57:00 AM#90
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

Well it is Saturday...

But we've discussed it before; despite all attempts (by anyone) of 'standardizing' the 'obvious' definition, there are always going to be titles riding the border, and a good sized wad of games that people disagree on. SWG got disagreed about for 8 solid years, if you recall.

Fighting for the hipster cool points.

  whilan

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7/06/13 9:01:34 AM#91
I feel you can't have a list like this without a tale in the desert in that list. Personal opinion of course.

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OP  7/07/13 6:55:47 AM#92
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

It seems like you are posting your own MMOS which you 'think' are sandbox instead of opening up a bit and take suggestion from community.

Pointless really if you are just going with 'my way or highway' attitude. This is why this topic as a sticky is bad idea.

No one has made any suggestions except to complain. If you don't like it, move along.

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OP  7/07/13 6:56:18 AM#93
Originally posted by whilan
I feel you can't have a list like this without a tale in the desert in that list. Personal opinion of course.

Elaborate. What makes it a sandbox?

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OP  7/07/13 6:59:13 AM#94
Originally posted by Antiquated
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

Well it is Saturday...

But we've discussed it before; despite all attempts (by anyone) of 'standardizing' the 'obvious' definition, there are always going to be titles riding the border, and a good sized wad of games that people disagree on. SWG got disagreed about for 8 solid years, if you recall.

Fighting for the hipster cool points.

SWG is an obvious sandbox. As are the rest on the list. The only disagreement here as been whether terrain modification is a requirement. Given EVE sets the current MMORPG sandbox standard, terrain modification obviously isn't.

  Boneserino

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7/07/13 7:25:50 AM#95
Originally posted by DMKano
Originally posted by legendsolo
Originally posted by azzamasin
Originally posted by nerovipus32
Originally posted by bcbully

Age of Wushu. 

 

add to your list. It's probably the best on the list. if you like people more than space ships 15-20 million worldwide. 

How exactly is age of wushu a sandbox? You can't build things in that game.

 Show me in the definition of where you need to be able to build something to label it a sandbox.  Sandbox means non-linear, open ended gameplay. Period.

that's how you define 'sandbox'.

how i see it: you have openworlds and sandboxes. In an open world the player can roam freely through the virtual world and is given freedom in how or when to approach objectives.No invisible walls and loading screens that block you from certain parts of the world.In a sandbox, the player has tools to modify the world themselves and create how they play. openworlds dont necessarily imply a sandbox. For me AoW is a openworld.

Excellent way of explaining it - I agree with this 100%.

I talked to several developers and they agreed the key to sandbox games is that players are given the tools to change the game, the more aspects they can change the more of a sandbox you have.

a 100% sandbox game is where the player can change EVERY aspect down to physics in zones (being able to turn off gravity for example), nothing is off limits.

I am not aware if any MMOs that are 100% sandbox games.

Do you have any idea how retarded this sounds??   Honestly do you?  

Lets say I come in and turn the lights off in the game.  Now it it is completely dark.   Haha.  So you come in and turn them back on again.  But wait, I can turn them back off.  On. Off. On........

Get the picture?   Your perfect little sandbox world is nothing but a gankfest and always will be.  Because in that type of world that is exactly the type of player that will rule it.  The guys that just want to screw it up for everyone else.  

Give me Fallen Earth any day.  Or something like SWG.

A perfect sandbox game?   Doesn't exist and never will!   And who really cares  because no one would want to play it anyway.  Except the gankers.

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  Squeak69

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7/07/13 11:21:30 AM#96
Originally posted by mCalvert
Originally posted by Antiquated
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

Well it is Saturday...

But we've discussed it before; despite all attempts (by anyone) of 'standardizing' the 'obvious' definition, there are always going to be titles riding the border, and a good sized wad of games that people disagree on. SWG got disagreed about for 8 solid years, if you recall.

Fighting for the hipster cool points.

SWG is an obvious sandbox. As are the rest on the list. The only disagreement here as been whether terrain modification is a requirement. Given EVE sets the current MMORPG sandbox standard, terrain modification obviously isn't.

exept you know you can build in eve, you can purchase and place a space station anywhere in sector space. and a fe wother things.

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  madazz

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7/07/13 11:45:18 AM#97
Originally posted by someforumguy
Originally posted by madazz

You know, I think fallen earth is pretty neat, but I never got the sandbox vibe fully. Some of it was there though. The thing that turned me off was the cash shop. And to be quite honest, I don't even know how bad it is (ie; P2W, cosmetics, what? lol)

 

Anarchy Online has a cash shop you know and in EVE you can even buy ingame currency :p My point is that it has nothing to do with the game being a sandbox.

As for Fallen Earth. Skillbased, no player classes, huge open world. No handholding. Very elaborate crafting system. It basically fits all the OP's requirement, but it is not on the list because the OP doesn't know it and a few said it shouldn't be on it because it has quests (which are not mandatory). You can just as well start lvling through pvp.

I read over my post a few times and I cannot find where I stated that buying anything makes it a sandbox or not. 

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OP  7/08/13 7:36:30 AM#98
Originally posted by Squeak69
Originally posted by mCalvert
Originally posted by Antiquated
Originally posted by Doogiehowser

Almost all of these topics always end up in bickering about what is sandbox or not. And yes i disagree with your list.

Well it is Saturday...

But we've discussed it before; despite all attempts (by anyone) of 'standardizing' the 'obvious' definition, there are always going to be titles riding the border, and a good sized wad of games that people disagree on. SWG got disagreed about for 8 solid years, if you recall.

Fighting for the hipster cool points.

SWG is an obvious sandbox. As are the rest on the list. The only disagreement here as been whether terrain modification is a requirement. Given EVE sets the current MMORPG sandbox standard, terrain modification obviously isn't.

exept you know you can build in eve, you can purchase and place a space station anywhere in sector space. and a fe wother things.

That's not terrain modification, that's just housing. You cant terraform planets, add things to gates, permanently wipe out asteroid belts. Youre very limited in where and what you can build (place really)

  Festano

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7/09/13 2:14:34 PM#99
I'm curious to try Age of Wishu
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