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General Discussion Forum » The Pub at MMORPG.COM » Grinding is boring right, GW2 and Tera have the solution.

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  Karelia

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3/30/13 1:50:56 PM#41
Originally posted by Waterlily

Grinding by killing mobs is so "mindless and boring" right, Guild Wars 2 and Tera Online have found the solution.

New and innovative.

 

GW2:

 

 

TERA:

 

 

i m with you :)

  Eir_S

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GW2 socialist.

3/30/13 1:52:31 PM#42
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by Aelious
True but he clarified that the OP was sarcastic. Eh, I think there are positives and negatives to both "grouping mob kill" leveling and "quest leveling". I will give GW2 credit that at least people are congregating for a similar purpose and helping eachother out.

Even though he's being sarcastic, he's completely overlooking the fact (deliberately) that in GW2 the 'grind' is entirely optional. It's literally there for people who complain about not having enough things to grind for.

In TERA, it's mandatory. You literally can't get through the game w/ out grinding your little heart out. GW2? You can get to 80 in a day provided you have ~10g and internet access. Neither of which are hard to come by. It's also insanely easy to get max-lvl exotics in GW2, which is considered max-stat gear for most purposes. You can get that extra 5% boost from grinding fractal gear if you want, but it's far from necessary, and doesn't give you much of an advantage.

Exactly.  I think that for some reason they threw GW2 in simply because they don't like it.  Can you even level in PvP in TERA like you can in GW2?  I don't think so.  Can you completely close the dailies list in both games and you know, do what you want?  Yes.  Yes, you can.  I know, shocking...

How is doing something that you often don't even notice you're doing compare to having to grind because your game ran out of quests and/or things to do?  No it's not innovative, but if you find it boring, well have fun with the alternative and hopefully your brain doesn't turn to jelly after killing the 10,000 rat.

  jpnz

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3/30/13 4:39:26 PM#43
Grinding is boring if the story doesn't hold up. I recall killing thousands of mobs in baldurs gate1 /2, dragon age, mass effect, swtor etc etc. Not one of those grinds were boring.

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  stayontarget

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3/30/13 4:45:20 PM#44
Originally posted by Waterlily
Originally posted by stayontarget
Originally posted by Waterlily

confused. how are those good things? its still grind.

was being sarcastic but I should have been more obvious haha

You do know what grinding mob's is right?   Here I will give you an example:

Silkroad:  Kill 3,000 flowers  (0/3).   .02 % exp per kill.  .5 % exp per quest turn in.

 

 

You really should know the difference before even trying to be sarcastic.

running up and down NPC getting quest after quest, getting daily after daily, spending most of your time running to the guy with the question mark is not grinding?

It's grinding too, but it's much worse than the old grinding where you just killed mobs, because there you actually had time to talk to your group and focus on the gameplay.

Oh no you poor child, it must be so hard for you to gather up those quest.  I tell you what,  Prove to me that mob grinding is so much better by downloading Silkroad and giving it a go.  My guess is that you will give up at around lv30 or so when you realize its going to take you 3-4 years to reach max....but hay I'm sure you will enjoy the experience.

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  Squeak69

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3/30/13 4:46:18 PM#45
Originally posted by jpnz
Grinding is boring if the story doesn't hold up. I recall killing thousands of mobs in baldurs gate1 /2, dragon age, mass effect, swtor etc etc. Not one of those grinds were boring.

considering that about 60% of my game time is on a old neverwinter nights 2 server right now. i agree with this cause the grind is pretty high. but at the same time i dont ever really fill it cause the RP and DM run daiy events kinda make you not notice it and really enjoy it.

 

also um tera/ GW2 not have grind

OP pass the stuff around the circle dont keep it to your self man, cause those game are just as bad as any other heck tera dousnt even have a change in enimies it just changes the skin on them slightly, but when i played through that game i could always tell exatly what a new mob was goiugn to do via compareing it to the exact same kinda mob all other zones had and use the exact same tactic and whala, it become a stale combat with basicly 121123 fighting just like any other MMO just in this one your doge /block is part of that pattern., and honestly i still think a game that claims action style combat with animation lock is a sin.

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  jpnz

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3/30/13 4:53:44 PM#46
If you like the story of gw2 or the world of tera, it isn't a bad grind though. I really didn't like the story of gw2 so I felt bored at the the grinds.

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  Amjoco

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3/30/13 5:24:10 PM#47

Who cares? After months of GW2 there are still thousands of players loving GW2 and Tera. No matter what taunt the OP throws it has no influence on those "grinding" fun. 

 

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  coretex666

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3/30/13 5:35:14 PM#48

You will probably find a snake hidden in your mailbox soon.

Or maybe they will just poison your drink.

One of those...

Waiting for L2 EU Classic

  Jemcrystal

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Let em put a slave ring thru u're nose u're prob not going to like where they're taking you. Think.

3/30/13 5:36:38 PM#49
I'm not playing GW2 or TERA or WoW or any MMO because they are all a big fat grind; devolpers are fart brains and can't make a creative world like Little Big Planet, Minecraft, and TS2.  At least WoW let their public play with their UI - the reason WoW became popular but no one remembers that.

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  fivoroth

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3/30/13 5:44:06 PM#50
So you hate grinding but you do the same thing over and over and over and over again every single day? Aka post on this forum. You repeat the same content (writing a post) all the time? How is that for a grind!

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  Amjoco

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3/30/13 5:46:25 PM#51
Originally posted by Jemcrystal
I'm not playing GW2 or TERA or WoW or any MMO because they are all a big fat grind; devolpers are fart brains and can't make a creative world like Little Big Planet, Minecraft, and TS2.  At least WoW let their public play with their UI - the reason WoW became popular but no one remembers that.

WoW became popular because you could play with your UI?

 

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  darkedone02

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3/30/13 7:30:44 PM#52

I don't have a problem with certain games with a grinding curve, the only thing i only felt bored of is doing it multiple times, expecially when your doing it again on an alt, and another alt, etc. That's why i get tired of doing dailies in WoW after i continue getting the dull vibe of renewable quest of kill x of y. Hell i think trying to get these achievements are just like the quests in WoW but with some difficulty of gaining it, for ahieve-o-holics out there.

An mmorpg that contains quests will most like contain grind, a game without quests will lead to alot of grind, as you focus on getting certain time that mob drop.

  MMOExposed

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3/30/13 9:26:40 PM#53
Originally posted by Amjoco
Originally posted by Jemcrystal
I'm not playing GW2 or TERA or WoW or any MMO because they are all a big fat grind; devolpers are fart brains and can't make a creative world like Little Big Planet, Minecraft, and TS2.  At least WoW let their public play with their UI - the reason WoW became popular but no one remembers that.

WoW became popular because you could play with your UI?

 

Wow took many ideas from older MMOs. ui changing, was popular new feature in MMOs from AC. WoW took its UI system from there.

AC2 tried to be more themepark before the THEMEPARK was mainstream like today and failed its previous fans. So when they decided to make AC3 which was more THEMEPARK than AC2,  they figured it would best to not use the AC IP for it, which the fans will be the first to give negative first impression. So they changed the IP on the design to Lord of The Rings. Which was a hit success. 

Sequels never work out well it would seem. Or at least as well as the original MMO. IP change is better for a sequel. Because the image starts fresh. But that's a bit off topic.

  iixviiiix

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3/31/13 6:56:22 AM#54

If we redefined what "grind" , i think we can find out ways to make the solution.

 

In my point of view . "grind" are what you feel ,

and because of that , each people feel "grind" difference than other.

Some feel less grind and some feel it heavy.

So how to make "grind" feeling disappear ?

 

It simple. Change the goal of player , and they will feel lest grind.

You only feel it "grind" when your brain tell you

"hey, you have to kill 1000 monster to level up, they are exp , they are goal you need to do"

So you feel like you have to kill 1000 same mobs . That make you feel grind.

 

But what if you twist the goal in your head ?

Most normal way to twist it's ramdom drop. You know the feeling when you gamble right ?

That's the feeling you need. Ramdom good drop.

Hope to hit a gold mine . That make you feel lest grind.

 

Feeling of fight to win. that another way to to twist "grind" to fun

You siege a castle , you kill thousand NPC soldiers , they are same mobs.

But you goal's win the fight , take over the castle.

Do you feel "grind" when you kill 10000 of same soliders ?

No ,

Because your goal are'nt kill them , your goal are take over the castle.

You don't feel you "grind" them when you kill them.

 

Do you feel grind when you mine thousand unknown ore and some time hit a jack will gold.

It will twist "grind" to joy

 

There are alot example to twist "grind" to fun. It too many that i can't tell all

but developer never try to notice them.

They don't see them or they don't want to see ?

 

 

I wonder lol.

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